Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!

I don't see that. I see the reverse. Fans of Smash are more likely to buy the games/series the characters are from (hence the huge reception to the newest Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem games) than the other way around.

Basically I can imagine someone liking Snake in Smash and buying an MGS game (assuming it was on the Wii/WiiU) more than I can the reverse

It both works way, its not one-sided.
Plus that didn't stop Nintendo from putting Snake in Brawl, and I doubt Sakurai gives a shit about it.
 
I don't care which 3rd party characters we get so long as they are new honestly. I want to get excited about brand new worlds and interactions.
 
I love Bowser Jr. He's a great character

1 - He's adorable
2 - He's funny
3 - He has some great boss battles

As annoying as the shitstorm that the internet would start spewing on his inclusion would be, he could make a pretty interesting character. Having things like his mechs and paintbrush could make him a pretty versatile and unique character, at least in terms of moveset.

I think he's got a snowball's chance in hell though.
 
As annoying as the shitstorm that the internet would start spewing on his inclusion would be, he could make a pretty interesting character. Having things like his mechs and paintbrush could make him a pretty versatile and unique character, at least in terms of moveset.

I think he's got a snowball's chance in hell though.

I am sorry but I have to 4chan for a bit

Shit storm

not just gaf complaining.


Also JR is quite popular, so there is that.
 
Taking out Snake would just make the roster less interesting. He's already designed, he's well-done, and he greatly added to the diversity of the cast. He -is- attractive to people who aren't normally into Nintendo games, and he actually has a game on a current Nintendo system this time around. And with Konami launching MGSV the same year as Smash (much like MGSIV the same year as Brawl), I'm sure Kojima will be in full support of his buddy Sakurai bringing back the character that caused such a memorable stir and became such a popular Smash Bro.
 
In general, I am not sure why so many people are worried about 3DS being able to render Smash at 60FPS. The original Smash on the N64 ran at 60FPS so why can't the 3DS? I think some of you are forgetting that the 3DS is in some ways stronger than the Wii.

The 3DS may have some cut backs from the Wii U version, but I highly doubt frame rate is one of them.
 
He is acceptable, Sonic isn't too cool for Nintendo, like some other people.

Good, good. Sonic is family to Nintendo at this point.

I hope so. I want to have Platsformer All Star Battle.

Haha. The way it should have been.

A lot of people (including myself) would be shocked if he wasn't.

I'd be pretty damn shocked as well. I'd be beyond sad.

Probably. Considering the 3-game deal Sega has with nintendo.

I sure hope so, it would bring in so much glory. If it doesn't end up happening.. There will be so many disappointments. There's even so much reasoning to why he'd come back too.
 
On stages....I really hope they don't do too many 'floating platforms in front of detailed background' stages. The Animal Crossing stage is already a disappointment. We should be brawling in the village, not on a platform hovering in front of it. Guess it's an evolution of the Smashville stage, but that was a lost opportunity. Just like Skyworld.

Onett and Saffron City I think are the best ways to do 'town-based' stages.

Also, Brawl had 41 stages...any chance we see anywhere close to that number in these? Personally, I'd like to see over 30, but somehow I think 20 will be closer to what we get.
 
It both works way, its not one-sided.
Plus that didn't stop Nintendo from putting Snake in Brawl, and I doubt Sakurai gives a shit about it.

How does it possibly work both ways? Buying another game for a console you own is a much smaller decision than buying a new console for a specific game. And as people have said earlier Snake was only in because Kojima asked for him to be
 
Also, Brawl had 41 stages...any chance we see anywhere close to that number in these? Personally, I'd like to see over 30, but somehow I think 20 will be closer to what we get.

Why would this game have less stages than Brawl? Why would this game have less anything than Brawl?
 
yeah fuck guys now im sad again

there's no way this game's multiplayer's gonna function well from here

you know how in Mario Kart DS sometimes you'd shoot a shell and it would stay right behind the other player you're trying to hit sort of lagging for like, 1 second? something as small as that is just gonna ruin everything in this game

I know, it was so frustrating. This is the 3ds, hopefully the online is much better and tweaked.

If not then we'll always have the Wii U version. I'm sure its online will be awesome.
 
I've said it a million times, but I'll say it again: Haken Browning from Endless Frontier should totally be in Smash. He has a wonderfully diverse moveset, his game was developed by Monolith Soft and Namco Bandai who are now 2nd party and working on Smash respectively, and he's been getting some exposure recently with his appearance as a Namco rep in Project X Zone.

Plus he looks awesome and has a great personality. Those traits always make for great Smash characters~
 
How does it possibly work both ways? Buying another game for a console you own is a much smaller decision than buying a new console for a specific game. And as people have said earlier Snake was only in because Kojima asked for him to be
...and because Sakurai agreed he would add nicely to the Smash Bros. cast. It wasn't simply a "favor." Snake had to qualify on other merits above and beyond the standing offer from Konami.

And his inclusion doesn't have to serve as a direct point-of-purchase display for it to be in Nintendo's interests. At the very bare minimum, it gets people to look at the system and its offerings who might not otherwise even blink in the WiiU's direction. And it's categorically impossible to deny that Snake adds greatly to the thematic variety, gameplay variety and cultural variety (as in gaming culture) of the roster.

He's already designed. He's a proven property, a known quantity to the Smash community, and a cherished one, at that. There's no reason to take him out, especially given that this time around, he has a game on a modern Nintendo system (MGS3D).
 
...and because Sakurai agreed he would add nicely to the Smash Bros. cast. It wasn't simply a "favor." Snake had to qualify on other merits above and beyond the standing offer from Konami.

And his inclusion doesn't have to serve as a direct point-of-purchase display for it to be in Nintendo's interests. At the very bare minimum, it gets people to look at the system and its offerings who might not otherwise even blink in the WiiU's direction. And it's categorically impossible to deny that Snake adds greatly to the thematic variety, gameplay variety and cultural variety (as in gaming culture) of the roster.

He's already designed. He's a proven property, a known quantity to the Smash community, and a cherished one, at that. There's no reason to take him out, especially given that this time around, he has a game on a modern Nintendo system (MGS3D).

Shush. Don't get us too hyped for Snake.
 
Snake... So did Snake ever get into PlayStation All-Stars? If not, that might mean something....

Hopefully Snake and Sonic are Smash Characters to stay.
 
Snake... So did Snake ever get into PlayStation All-Stars? If not, that might mean something....

Hopefully Snake and Sonic are Smash Characters to stay.
Snake is NOT in PSASBR. They got Raiden instead. That should tell you something right there. Namely, Sakurai's got dibs.
 
Ha, that was great. BTW, what is that yellow golem that appears at the end of the MM trailer? I've only played MM2 (just started earlier this week) and I haven't seen anything resembling it yet (I still have to finish Heat Man and Wily). Also, in Smash, it would appear it's a stage hazard in the Wily stage, correct?

It's an infamous boss from the first Mega Man game, the Yellow Devil.
 
Ha, that was great. BTW, what is that yellow golem that appears at the end of the MM trailer? I've only played MM2 (just started earlier this week) and I haven't seen anything resembling it yet (I still have to finish Heat Man and Wily). Also, in Smash, it would appear it's a stage hazard in the Wily stage, correct?

You're not going to see the Yellow Devil or anything resembling it in MM2, but it's a recurring boss in Wily Fortress stages, it makes sense that he'd be a hazard on one.
 
Thanks for explaining the Yellow Devil, guys. On another note, I suspect the Wily stage transforms. Below the platform are four windows; one is lit up with a Wily icon. The stage probably transforms or transports the fighters to different Mega Man locations as the battle progresses.
 
I know, it was so frustrating. This is the 3ds, hopefully the online is much better and tweaked.

If not then we'll always have the Wii U version. I'm sure its online will be awesome.


I personally never had problem with online 3DS games. I personally find the online take stuck in 2008 since Nintendo has vastly improved their online. Mario Kart Wii ran as smooth as butter when my brother played it and from what I have heard Upraising's online is very good too and I have no issues what so ever with the Wii U's online. So, I am not worried.

So, I think the online should not be a problem. Even if it is, they can patch it unlike with Brawl.
 
Snake... So did Snake ever get into PlayStation All-Stars? If not, that might mean something....

Hopefully Snake and Sonic are Smash Characters to stay.

Nope, but Raiden did. Truth be told, I'd actually prefer if Raiden made it into Smash because I'm weird
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Ha, that was great. BTW, what is that yellow golem that appears at the end of the MM trailer? I've only played MM2 (just started earlier this week) and I haven't seen anything resembling it yet (I still have to finish Heat Man and Wily). Also, in Smash, it would appear it's a stage hazard in the Wily stage, correct?

It's the Yellow Devil, the single most infamous recurring boss in the Megaman series. He's tough because the only spot in which you can hit him is about three pixels high (meaning there's little room for error) and the fact that he disassembles and reassembles himself every 10 seconds or so, which keeps you on your toes.
 
If melee can handle 8 iceclimers at once, hopefully the 3ds version can too

Actually the only time Melee slows down is with 8 Ice Climbers. Especially in coin battle with very high items on a moving stage like Big Blue.
 
Snake... So did Snake ever get into PlayStation All-Stars? If not, that might mean something....

Hopefully Snake and Sonic are Smash Characters to stay.


From my understanding, Snake was not in All-Stars because of Raiden. Namely, they did not want to pit Snake against Raiden because they didn't want people to know who was stronger or something.
 
yeah fuck guys now im sad again

there's no way this game's multiplayer's gonna function well from here

you know how in Mario Kart DS sometimes you'd shoot a shell and it would stay right behind the other player you're trying to hit sort of lagging for like, 1 second? something as small as that is just gonna ruin everything in this game

Hold on, can you first explain to me how it makes sense to ignore the numerous online 3DS games and base the probable performance of this game on the very first wifi enabled game Nintendo ever released, published almost 8 years ago, on a weaker system, by a different dev team?
 
Why would this game have less stages than Brawl? Why would this game have less anything than Brawl?
Why not? I don't know too much about game development, but I'd imagine that the limit of songs, characters, stages, etc isn't just related to hardware. Maybe they are investing less into this game. Maybe they don't have as much dev time to work with. There could be plenty of reasons.
 
Snake isn't the only option and I doubt his reappearance would create the same amount of excitement as it originally did.

Why not give his spot to someone else who can appeal to non-Nintendo fans as well as having a richer history with Nintendo?
 
...and because Sakurai agreed he would add nicely to the Smash Bros. cast. It wasn't simply a "favor." Snake had to qualify on other merits above and beyond the standing offer from Konami.

And his inclusion doesn't have to serve as a direct point-of-purchase display for it to be in Nintendo's interests. At the very bare minimum, it gets people to look at the system and its offerings who might not otherwise even blink in the WiiU's direction. And it's categorically impossible to deny that Snake adds greatly to the thematic variety, gameplay variety and cultural variety (as in gaming culture) of the roster.

He's already designed. He's a proven property, a known quantity to the Smash community, and a cherished one, at that. There's no reason to take him out, especially given that this time around, he has a game on a modern Nintendo system (MGS3D).
This... is a perfect post.

Snake's an established Smash Bros. character. He has a ton of fans. He's the most iconic Konami character. It would be stupid to take him out just because he isn't currently relevant to Nintendo.
 
Hold on, can you first explain to me how it makes sense to ignore the numerous online 3DS games and base the probable performance of this game on the very first wifi enabled game Nintendo ever released, published almost 8 years ago, on a weaker system, by a different dev team?

as I said in subsequent posts im mostly talking about my sitation from where im at in a location standpoint. Mario Kart working properly was a huge surprise but some of the items and such lagged for me. I expect Smash' online to be fine in the US but not very good if I play with US people from south america. We'll see, it'd be a nice surprise.
 
This... is a perfect post.

Snake's an established Smash Bros. character. He has a ton of fans. He's the most iconic Konami character. It would be stupid to take him out just because he isn't currently relevant to Nintendo.

Mewtwo was an established Smash Bros. character with tons of fans as well.
 
Why not? I don't know too much about game development, but I'd imagine that the limit of songs, characters, stages, etc isn't just related to hardware. Maybe they are investing less into this game. Maybe they don't have as much dev time to work with. There could be plenty of reasons.


The 3DS is equal and a little stronger in some area to the Wii. If they can put all the stuff in Brawl, they can put it on the 3DS. The only real technical issue with the 3DS is the screen size.


Honestly, I do not get why people think this Smash is going to get gimp. It is not like Uprising get gimp because it was on the 3DS.
 
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