RyanardoDaVinci
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That was Miller.
Metal Gear Solid V (PS3/360/PS4/XBO/Maybe PC) - Extended 9 minute E3 trailer
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That was Miller.
Solidus is just an implied legend though.
As he even appeared in any other game of the series?
SketchTheArtist
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That's exactly what I thought when he was cast. They're testing the water with him.
Graphics Horse
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Wearing his prisoner clothes I think.
Very well done.
Seeing the footage in order like this, only increases my theory that Ishmael isn't a figment of Snake's imagination. Ishmael is voiced by Keifer Sutherland, and if the player has already been listening to Kiefer voicing Snake for the prologue, then it's got to be the worst attempt at a twist ever.
I've almost found it too obvious from the start even. I'm putting my money on hidden identity instead.
Little behind, just now watched the extended trailer. Wow, that first minute or two of the torture scenes was really intense, and then you find out that Big Boss and Miller are in on it, and it's like 
. I guess since this will be the game where we see BB finally turn bad, we'll be venturing into dark territory. I've never been a huge fan of open ended games, but I'm willing to give it a shot for Metal Gear.
My only real complaint is the "horn", that looks really dammed stupid.
I think there's mathematically no chance of this.
. I guess since this will be the game where we see BB finally turn bad, we'll be venturing into dark territory. I've never been a huge fan of open ended games, but I'm willing to give it a shot for Metal Gear.My only real complaint is the "horn", that looks really dammed stupid.
I think there's mathematically no chance of this.
Deaf Spacker
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Holy fuck.
My jaw is literally on the floor.
My jaw is literally on the floor.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Probably, im still holding back but I don't think I can resist after another trailer or MGO beta.
just the thought or possibility of something like Eli being Liquid or a Solid appearance
is making me want to change my mind.
Kojima also said in a interview that was posted that MGS V would do something with it's narrative that's only possible in the videogame medium.
To lead ourselves to a point that makes sense, we have to break down what games can do that movies can never do.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
everytime I read something like that from Kojima
I want a gif of
but with KOJIMA!!!!! as the text.
Callo Merlose
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Quiet being a sniper made me think of Sniper Wolf immediately. Sniper Wolf was born in 1980, meaning a 4 year old sniper would not make a lick of sense, especially with a C/D cup. It also isn't known if Quiet is from Iraq or Afghanistan, Wolf being a kurd means she's Iraqi.
Quiet being Sniper Wolf's mother though makes a lot of sense. Sniper Wolf's early life bio:
http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Sniper_Wolf
Big Boss helping her and being a father figure could be atonement for him killing her mother, along with Ocelot torturing her mother as well. Sniper Wolf probably wouldn't know of this, because her mother becomes a mute from the torture she got. Sniper Wolf looking up to someone who possibly killed her mother, and joining a unit where Ocelot is one of the leaders, is pretty ironic or coincidental.
Quiet would never be able to tell her daughter about Big Boss or Ocelot, and Sniper Wolf ends up helping both of those people.
Quiet being Sniper Wolf's mother though makes a lot of sense. Sniper Wolf's early life bio:
http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Sniper_Wolf
Big Boss helping her and being a father figure could be atonement for him killing her mother, along with Ocelot torturing her mother as well. Sniper Wolf probably wouldn't know of this, because her mother becomes a mute from the torture she got. Sniper Wolf looking up to someone who possibly killed her mother, and joining a unit where Ocelot is one of the leaders, is pretty ironic or coincidental.
Quiet would never be able to tell her daughter about Big Boss or Ocelot, and Sniper Wolf ends up helping both of those people.
SJRB
Gold Member
Hayter never did it for the cash. Remember, he ditched most of his paycheck for Twin Snakes so the other original VA's could be hired.
But yeah, I agree that there still is something going on that explains why Hayter isn't Big Boss. An in-game twist, I mean.
Time will tell.
matrix-cat
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Popular theory is that it's the intro/tutorial of the game. It'll explain all the controls and get you ready for the weirdness to follow, then a "NINE YEARS EARLIER" title card pops up and we start playing Ground Zeroes.
33-Hit-Combo
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And in the following X-ray you can see that his arm reappears without the bone i.e. his mechanical arm
If you give me a video of this, I'll make it for you. Just be sure to tell me the time where it happens.
Go see a doctor
I don't see him killing children, could be a totally different scene.
33-Hit-Combo
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My guess is that Cipher who 'found the missing link in Africa' are using them for a fate worse than death or child soldiers.
I thought popular theory was the periods of time may not even be one game. Kojima has been very secretive about the fact, at the very least.
EDIT: Though i do admit. Just as i clicked post, i do sort of remember Kojima saying something to the effect of that section being a tutorial. Hmm, perhaps i'm wrong then.
Still. Any gamer who's been keeping up with the news about Hayter's departure and Sutherland now voicing snake, which is probably a lot of people, is instantly going to her Sutherland's voice and know. But i guess it's not exactly planned to be a late twist, but probably one within the first hour.
Have you guys seen this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb1WhDdto08&feature=player_embedded
Some interesting theories there about Gray Fox.
Some interesting theories there about Gray Fox.
33-Hit-Combo
Member
Shieeeeeeeeeeeet! No wonder why Punished has so many facial scars?
joakim is cgi guys!!!
Tbh some of the stuff is quite a leap, but the thing he says about Snake clicking his eye patch while sneaking is definitely true, I didn't notice it until now. I wonder why he's doing that?
Jawmuncher
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Considering how popular Gray Fox is Is be surprised if he doesn't at least pop up somewhere. We definitely are leading into MG1 and MG2 finally.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Metal Gear fans still desperately clinging to Gray Fox I see.
MG1 HD Remake incoming after mgs5 ?
Rogue Agent
Banned
Hopefully Gray Fox pops up in Africa. Here's hoping. I loved his stuff in MGS1 and before that. In fact, I really hope that many FOX-HOUND peeps from MGS1 appear in this game.
You got to love it when analysis on focuses on the aspects that support the theory you have.
Although I do hope to see Gray Fox.
D
Deleted member 80556
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I really don't know why they'd get rid of him, after all the Japanese actor for Snake is still the same. Maybe Kojima (or someone else of a similar charge) didn't like Hayter. It was definitely not for money, Hayter even gave up a lot of his Twin Snakes salary so the complete cast could return, so he's not like that.
And a big name actor like Sutherland would probably ask double anyway. It could've been that they wanted someone famous. If they did, shame on them, but whatever.
On your edit, if anything I'd want Hayter to be the writer, he has interest in that!
I think he will be in the game, it's in the timeline so..
Although I don't think 'new' Snake is Gray Fox, that's going a bit too far. But he made some good observations nonetheless.
Chuck Norris
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Yes please.
Jawmuncher
Member
It's all we can do after Raiden took his game.
At this point I think well get into a odd area where MG1 will be a reboot of sorts for the series.
No, not me. Still many things I need to do.
I don't think Kojima even hated Hayter. As memory serves, they had a rather close relationship, Kojima actually preferred the english MGS because he envisioned his characters speaking english in the first place. He can even speak Japanese (albeit with an accent) since he grew up in Kobe Japan.
At the anniversary meeting, Hayter even did a somewhat jokey video congratulating Kojima, which got a good laugh out of him.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I don't see a problem with Hayter disappearing as Big Boss. This won't be the first game that has happened, and I think distancing older Big Boss' voice work from Hayter is a good thing to give each character a stronger distinction.
You have some Metal Gear fans flipping shit because Hayter isn't Big Boss, but I don't see why he has to be. Hayter was always Snake first, Big Boss second. And there's no real reason Big Boss has to sound like Solid Snake.
You have some Metal Gear fans flipping shit because Hayter isn't Big Boss, but I don't see why he has to be. Hayter was always Snake first, Big Boss second. And there's no real reason Big Boss has to sound like Solid Snake.
SJRB
Gold Member
Haha wow.. MGS speculation is the best there is.
My interpretation of what's happening is that Kojima is opting to switch voice actors as Big Boss ages, leading to Doyle's voice or around that from MGS4. We know his Hayter voice only lasts so long.
With Solid Snake it's different, and I'm happy with that. If you told me Hayter would be leaving the Solid Snake role, then there'd probably be issues. :lol
But I agree, I don't see much of a problem with Hayter leaving the Big Boss role. The character's aging demands it at some point.
Nope. Don't count on it either. I'm preparing a topic over that very topic in a few days.
I wonder if the areas, at least the one from the trailer, really need to be that big.
Looks like a vast empty zone to lead to the one where all the core of the gameplay takes place. I could see it useful if you could get hunted aggressively and by many soldiers in different vehicles, then trying to hide in such big place can have an impact.
Looks like a vast empty zone to lead to the one where all the core of the gameplay takes place. I could see it useful if you could get hunted aggressively and by many soldiers in different vehicles, then trying to hide in such big place can have an impact.
A lot of it has to do with Hayter voicing Big Boss in three other games, MGS3, Portable Ops, and Peace Walker.
A lot of it has to do with the manner with which Kojima just sort of supposedly recast Big Boss, and didn't even bother telling Hayter about it.
That being said, most fans adore Hayter because he was the voice they grew up with, and because he's done a lot of promotional and fan interviews, and tends to be an all around cool guy. He'll joke around with you if you meet him on the street, he's a comic book nerd (his daughter is named Natasha after Black Widow). He's a lot more relate able and easily approachable.
I, for one, don't want to see Hayter coming back to the series. I feel sorry for the man, it must be tough to leave the role you've been doing for 15 years, but his performance was really not up to par anymore. You can't limit the series because of a decision someone made 15 years ago when choosing a voice actor, when every aspect of technology is making videogames better in every other regard. Hiring better, more capable actors was a transition that we had to make at some point.
I'm not saying Solid Snake has to be voiced by Kiefer too, necessarily, but if it's not him, I'd prefer someone new take on the role, while Kiefer can stick to Big Boss.
I'm not saying Solid Snake has to be voiced by Kiefer too, necessarily, but if it's not him, I'd prefer someone new take on the role, while Kiefer can stick to Big Boss.
Pharaoh 117
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It's very sad that a lot of publishers just put the trailers on YT and don't offer high quality downloadable versions anymore.
Ether_Snake
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I think it's either Gray Fox, grown up Chico, or Johnny.
Unless Chico dies in the attack on Mother Base, something has to happen to him. It also looked like we were seeing Big Boss and Kaz from someone else's perspective in the PP trailer when they are in the hospital.
BTW so far it goes: Afghanistan -> Africa, and then we don't know. But considering what the game is about, I get the feeling it will stay in those two locations for the most part. If not, then we've only seen maybe the first part of PP. It would be: GZ, with the destruction of Mother Base. BB wakes up and escapes the hospital with Ocelot. Goes to Afghanistan to save Kaz. Goes to Africa to look for whatever Zero is doing, meets some child soldiers, and kills some of them.
Again I really wonder how the heck BB can end up as head of Fox Hound after all this.
edit: Also about the Hayter thing, who was voicing Solidus, Liquid, etc., in the previous Japanese versions of the games? Maybe there's going to be a bit of every Snakes in this game, so he didn't want to have two Snakes with the same voice while the others don't have the same one.
It wouldn't be Chico, why would his accent change so dramatically?
I don't agree with the assumptions of that youtube video, but do you honestly not think Gray Fox has a good chance of appearing in this game at all?