There is another reason also, Jrpgs and Microsoft don't seem to mix together well. The Jrpgs that were released on Xbox 360 didn't seem to be doing as good as those that were released on Ps3 and Wii.
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There is another reason also, Jrpgs and Microsoft don't seem to mix together well. The Jrpgs that were released on Xbox 360 didn't seem to be doing as good as those that were released on Ps3 and Wii.
lunchwithyuzo
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Ignorance is bliss?
Monolith Soft made games since the Nintendo buyout:
Soma Bringer (DS) 2008
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier (DS) 2008
Disaster: Day of Crisis (Wii) 2009
Dragon Ball Z: Attack of the Saiyans (DS) 2009
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier Exceed (DS) 2010
Xenoblade Chronicles (Wii) 2010
Project X Zone (3DS) 2012
X (Wii U) 2014
New RPG Project (3DS) TBA
Monolith Soft contracted support on games since the Nintendo buyout:
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) 2008
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Wii) 2011
Animal Crossing: New Leaf (3DS) 2012
And this with a staff of 70-100. I can't think of many more productive 1st party subsidiaries than Monolith.
Nintendo bought a controlling interest in Monolith Soft in 2007, but the company wasn't actually a first party until 2011. Namco still owned a stake until then.
Poetic.Injustice
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They should have released Persona 5 on PS3/360 earlier in the generation instead of making stuff like Catherine, They had a franchise with a ton of traction in the US but chose to go with a new I.P. Some stupid handling that was.
Crash Station
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Didn't Banpresto do most of the Super Robot/Project X Zone stuff?
Anyway, you're right. For some reason I thought Atlus' output was a lot higher, but looking at their release schedule, I realized I was including games published by them in my mind.
I still don't know if Nintendo would be a good idea, though. I can't imagine they would have as much creative freedom as they do now or if someone like GungHo were to buy them.
Controlling interest = First party. If you own over 50% of a company, you decide its actions.
No, other than production management.
And yes, Nintendo would not be a good idea, just like all the other platform holders.
From a business strategy perspective, I think Nintendo would be smart to step in and pick up Atlus. They've already said they want to expand their production, many of Atlus' important titles are already on Nintendo titles, and they're currently working closely with the company on MegaTen x FE. It seems like a slam dunk.
From a consumer view, given Nintendo's region locking policy, I hope Atlus stays independent and is able to publish on all consoles.
From a consumer view, given Nintendo's region locking policy, I hope Atlus stays independent and is able to publish on all consoles.
lunchwithyuzo
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Europe can burn so long as it preserves Atlus USA. Sorry.
Right if Sony is running things how many games will they pass on?
chertipros
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No platform holder should buy atlus. None of them.
lunchwithyuzo
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Banpresto produced them, (Nintendo owned) Monolith developed them.
You're right though, Nintendo wouldn't be a good idea though. Just not really for this reason.
Thats different from game they decide to localize.
Just take it with you.
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Who can we pray to? There are only demons and fiends here.
Mauricio_Magus
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All I want is more Etrian Odyssey, so I'm hoping they stay 3rd party of Nintendo.
No, we should tweet Yoshida for Sony to buy them and for me to have more fanboy ammo.
EmCeeGramr
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maybe they'll sell trauma center to a company that can market it
The same Sony that took a chance on Flow, Flower, and Journey.
The same Sony that supports Puppeteer, Rain, Tokyo Jungle, and allow their developers to have creative freedom and don't interfere with their efforts(exception of Socom 4).
Just because Yoshida didn't green light Demon's Souls due to its niche appeal doesn't mean they wouldn't be able to properly handle Atlus's intellectual properties.
They managed to localize Soul Sacrifice in under a month and have an esteemed relationship with Atlus given the fact that they let them take over Dragon's Crown publishing.
I think it would be better off if Atlus went independent or goes with a different third party that does not limit their operations but I wouldn't have many problems with them under Sony as I doubt their efforts would be limited.
Also, you would be a fool to think Sony wouldn't localize established brands like EO, SMT, or Persona given their appeal overseas. Infact, they would probably get Euro localization efforts faster through SCEE.
GuessMyUserName
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Just 2 things:
1. Microsoft has absolutely zero interest in Japan now. I mean they're not even releasing xbone until another year. I don't blame them, they tried early this gen to get good Japanese games - Mistwalker games, Vesperia, iDOLM@STER, they did a good effort but with no consumer reaction.
2. Please can people stop saying "they shouldn't be restricted to weak nintendo systems" when we're talking about Atlus, of all companies. They have never ever ever been anywhere close to pushing any hardware, them being cemented to Nintendo isn't a tragic loss - heck 3DS is basically their home town right now.
1. Microsoft has absolutely zero interest in Japan now. I mean they're not even releasing xbone until another year. I don't blame them, they tried early this gen to get good Japanese games - Mistwalker games, Vesperia, iDOLM@STER, they did a good effort but with no consumer reaction.
2. Please can people stop saying "they shouldn't be restricted to weak nintendo systems" when we're talking about Atlus, of all companies. They have never ever ever been anywhere close to pushing any hardware, them being cemented to Nintendo isn't a tragic loss - heck 3DS is basically their home town right now.
3. Square buys Atlus. Announces brand new game in the Persona series: "Lightning's Personas" - each Persona is now replaced with Lightning in a new costume.
Atlus is more than SMT. Do you see Sony as a company that would localize a game like Catherine?
wasn't catherine really successful for atlus?
childplease
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Nintendo Buying atlus would be the best fit.
We all know they have the money for it too.
We all know they have the money for it too.
That's the biggest reason why I wouldn't want most major companies to end up with Atlus, there's no guarantee they'd localize half of the games. EO would probably never leave Japan again since I seriously doubt they'd find it worth the effort. I wonder who would give their IPs both the attention and care they've had so far. The chances of things remaining as they are isn't likely unless they find a small company or an outside investor who'd have a real interest in letting Atlus grow further from where they are right now.
They're fanboys.Why would people want Sony or Nintendo to buy them?That just means Atlus would be company-specific. Honestly screw that.
Hush now. Vidyageams need their wars.Why would people want Sony or Nintendo to buy them?
Velcro Fly
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I'd really rather not have any of the big 3 buy them. Much rather let Atlus develop for whatever system they want.
RobotRocker
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Heart says Marvelous should try take them on and create a Japanese super publisher.
Brain says Zenimax is probably going to wade in and throw around cash since they haven't been afraid to dip into the JP market compared to other publishers and it's a no brainier pick up considering the growing popularity of Persona and SMT.
Brain says Zenimax is probably going to wade in and throw around cash since they haven't been afraid to dip into the JP market compared to other publishers and it's a no brainier pick up considering the growing popularity of Persona and SMT.
chertipros
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You realize that Nintendo also has the 3DS, where new entries in atlus franchises like Etrian Odyssey and Shin Megami Tensei have sold more units than ever right?
Edit: Its not really like atlus would suddenly jump headfirst into HD development anyway. They only had one HD console game this entire gen FFS. Going portable seems to be in their best interests and there isn't any other dedicated handheld better for them than the 3DS
It's interesting to see what MS is gonna do with Japan this generation. They now have Microsoft Games Studio Osaka. That alone suggests more commitment than the entire of last generation. They are also making Crimson Dragon and D4.
barely outselling P4G in the 200k sector isnt selling more than ever.
RurouniZel
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Yeah, nevermind my opinions on getting an XB1, there's the fact many of Atlus's best games were handheld titles, work BEST as handheld titles, and that companies like Rare ended up trashed. Microsoft buying them is one of the worst possible fates they can have, seriously.Microsoft buying Atlus? I mean, I'm getting an Xbox One but....
Nintendo makes the most sense.
Mind, I'd prefer someone without a strong gaming presence got them or something, a company that'll be like an Index that was run well and not fradulantly, because I don't want to lose SMTxFE nor do I want their presence to vanish from Sony platforms, or for Atlus USA to vanish. A company without serious gaming investment would probably just want to maintain the status quo there, especially as the core Atlus portions WERE the most successful. Probably successful enough to prop up a company with Index's shitty baggage really.
I dunno, if we're to take the "merge/be bought by a company with a European presence" Tecmo Koei is the one that LOOKS like it might have the room to allow Atlus USA to stick around, not unless there is a healthy, active TK USA and it's just they have no PR front.
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