UFC 162: Silva vs. Weidman |OT| God or Fraud

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Instro

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I haven't been following middleweight UFC much this past year, but once Anderson beats Weidman the division is pretty much squeaky clean, right? Is there anyone else who they can throw up against him? The one bad thing about Anderson is that (excluding Weidman) it's starting to seem it's less "who actually deserves a title shot" and more "who hasn't had a turn yet".
Well Vitor and Okami have been wrecking everyone else in the division who had title aspirations, Weidman got lucky and didn't have to fight either of course. Only other guys on a good streak right now are Costa Philippou and Jacare. There was also talk of Mousasi dropping to middleweight which would be an awesome matchup.
 

muddream

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Well Vitor and Okami have been wrecking everyone else in the division who had title aspirations, Weidman got lucky and didn't have to fight either of course. Only other guys on a good streak right now are Costa Philippou and Jacare. There was also talk of Mousasi dropping to middleweight which would be an awesome matchup.

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Dmented

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Do you guys have a private GAF pool? How can I join if so?
 

JJD

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Well Dana is at it again:



He better come up with someone else if Anderson wins, or hope Weidman wins so he can pimp a rematch, then a another rematch to settle it all

Well he is not lying. Georges is going to serious lengths to duck Silva. It's getting kinda ridiculous.

Silva doesn't want to fight against Jones too, but at least he's pretty open about it and he already said that if Dana really wants it he'll fight.

GSP is just a chicken.
 
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I approve of this recent heel turn you've made, muddream.

Also, Canderson gonna get dat hellbow love

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I am proud to say that I was in the crowd for that Silva/Belfort fight.. Funny thing is my buddy next to me kept yelling out "KICK HIM IN THE LIPS" during every fight from the first prelim onward. So we were definitely busting out laughing when Andy did just that.
 
I think Silva will win by K.O, I think it will be a awesome fight i'd love it to be like the first Silva - Sonnen and with everyone saying how strong Weidman is as a wrestler and how unlike Sonnen he actually has the ability to do damage to Silva once he gets him down. I'd love it to be an all out war!

But what is Silva wins and does it with easy whats next for him? I'd like to see him take on Jones.
 

YaGaMi

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I haven't been following middleweight UFC much this past year, but once Anderson beats Weidman the division is pretty much squeaky clean, right? Is there anyone else who they can throw up against him? The one bad thing about Anderson is that (excluding Weidman) it's starting to seem it's less "who actually deserves a title shot" and more "who hasn't had a turn yet".

Belfort wants a rematch soon, I can see a potential fight with Moussasi down the line.
 
Anderson is one of the most inaccurate strikers of all time, known for his clumsy feet and terrible head movement.

And listening to the Pre Scrum. I don't see how anyone can compare the UFC to the NFL/MLB/NBA. It doesn't have the revenue, fan fare/audience or legacy. I think I saw an NBA Finals game had 14 million viewers.

I get that the fighters are underpaid. But it's going to be awhile until we have "league" minimum contracts. Also, all of those organizations have unions for the athletes and referees.

And Vitor should have to fight one more contender in order to rematch Anderson (if he wins). Give him Okami, Mousasi, Munoz, Cung Lee (since his name was thrown out there).
 

Hex

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Fully expecting this thread and the MMA Gaf thread to be full of "Weidman was just manufactured hype by Dana and his yes men to try and sell the ppv- he never had a real chance, Canderson still getting nothing but easy fights blah blah" after this fight when Silva wins.
Definitely should be a good card all and all for Saturday.
 
Yall talk as if Sonnen didn't lay his hands on Silva in the stand up. Spider got touched plenty, but he has a great chin.

Fully expecting this thread and the MMA Gaf thread to be full of "Weidman was just manufactured hype by Dana and his yes men to try and sell the ppv- he never had a real chance, Canderson still getting nothing but easy fights blah blah" after this fight when Silva wins.
Definitely should be a good card all and all for Saturday.

Weidman ain't no burger flipper, he does have a real chance. And not in a "puncher's chance" way...
 

ScOULaris

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I think a lot of these quotes from fighters saying that Weidman has a chance at beating Anderson are all part of one big snow job by the UFC to make this fight seem like something other than a one-sided beatdown by A. Silva.

They do this all the time. They're selling you wolf tickets!

Anyway, Silva will win in dramatic fashion. Most likely in the first or second round. Anyone who thinks otherwise was probably also convinced into thinking that Dan Hardy had a chance against GSP back when the UFC was doing its damndest to market it that way.
 

FlyFaster

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seems like every event with Silva in it all the fighters talk about how he's going to lose.

LOL, not happening. Anderson Silva is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.
 
Anyway, Silva will win in dramatic fashion. Most likely in the first or second round. Anyone who thinks otherwise was probably also convinced into thinking that Dan Hardy had a chance against GSP back when the UFC was doing its damndest to market it that way.

Dan Hardy never had a chance.

Weidman will be UFC Middleweight champion whether this Saturday or not.
 

TheChits

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This is a solid card. With the exception of Tim Kennedy, I'm really looking forward to all the main card fights. The prelims should be pretty good too with Barboza, Leben, and Gonzaga all fighting on the undercard
 

ScOULaris

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Could someone please give me a concise, solid argument as to how Weidman has shown anything thus far in his career to indicate that he'd even stand the slightest chance against Silva?

And don't say "good wrestling." Silva has beaten better wrestlers than him (i.e. Hendo).
 

HiResDes

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I'm a Silva Fan, but Weidman has better BJJ than any other top tier wrestler in the division, but boy he better get Silva on the ground real fast or he's fucked.
 

Hex

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Yall talk as if Sonnen didn't lay his hands on Silva in the stand up. Spider got touched plenty, but he has a great chin.



Weidman ain't no burger flipper, he does have a real chance. And not in a "puncher's chance" way...

I don't discount Weidman, I just think that Silva will always get that treatment lol.
 

FlyFaster

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Anderson is one of the most inaccurate strikers of all time, known for his clumsy feet and terrible head movement.

And listening to the Pre Scrum. I don't see how anyone can compare the UFC to the NFL/MLB/NBA. It doesn't have the revenue, fan fare/audience or legacy. I think I saw an NBA Finals game had 14 million viewers.

I get that the fighters are underpaid. But it's going to be awhile until we have "league" minimum contracts. Also, all of those organizations have unions for the athletes and referees.

And Vitor should have to fight one more contender in order to rematch Anderson (if he wins). Give him Okami, Mousasi, Munoz, Cung Lee (since his name was thrown out there).

http://www.fightmetric.com/ufcrecords.php

I hope you are fucking joking because you have literally no idea what you are talking about.

this lists him as #1 with 67.8% accuracy

he's also #1 in knockdowns landed on top of that he hasn't suffered a loss since 2006.

http://www.fightmetric.com/ufcrecords.php
another source for stats so you can get your facts straight. UFC average is 42% so being the high 60s is pretty good and further makes you look like a fool.

I could go on, but I hope at this point, it's sinking in... you are talking shit about the objectively best pound for pound fighter in the world.


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Very well rounded, phenomenal striker, speed
http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Anderson-Silva?full=true


The rest of what you have to say is irrelevant. The sport is young but it will be huge. I don't think there is another sport in the world who has better athletes.
 

Chamber

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Could someone please give me a concise, solid argument as to how Weidman has shown anything thus far in his career to indicate that he'd even stand the slightest chance against Silva?

And don't say "good wrestling." Silva has beaten better wrestlers than him (i.e. Hendo).

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Could someone please give me a concise, solid argument as to how Weidman has shown anything thus far in his career to indicate that he'd even stand the slightest chance against Silva?

And don't say "good wrestling." Silva has beaten better wrestlers than him (i.e. Hendo).

lol
 

Heel

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Foreshadowing from Canderson? Some strong symbology here, friends. The passing of the torch if I've ever seen it.

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ScOULaris

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Everyone on the forum should have to pick a side. You should run a forum-wide ban bet.

Even with those high stakes, I wouldn't bat an eye before placing my bet on Anderson. This fight is a fucking gimme for the GOAT, and to think otherwise is to buy into empty hype.
 

Heel

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Can I ban bet with Heel over the Anderson fight outcome

You're willing to ban yourself from your own website over some dusty old can, friend? If that's the fate you choose, let's make arrangements.

Since I'm giving up some odds, I ask that when I win said bet I also gain full control of the altering of my forum tag at will. If you lose, you change your forum tag to whatever MMA-GAF decides.

You have 24 hours.
 

ScOULaris

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You're willing to ban yourself from your own website over some dusty old can, friend? If that's the fate you choose, let's make arrangements.

Since I'm giving up some odds, I ask that when I win said bet I also gain full control of the altering of my forum tag at will. If you lose, you change your forum tag to whatever MMA-GAF decides.

You have 24 hours.

Did Heel just refer to Anderson fucking Silva as a "can?"

Take the bet EviLore. Either that or just ban him on principle.
 

Plywood

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You're willing to ban yourself from your own website over some dusty old can, friend? If that's the fate you choose, let's make arrangements.

Since I'm giving up some odds, I ask that when I win said bet I also gain full control of the altering of my forum tag at will. If you lose, you change your forum tag to whatever MMA-GAF decides.

You have 24 hours.
Well this is my main event.
 
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