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[Ninja Scooter]

Nobody claims Chuck is the best LHW of all time though. He's even behind Tito on the all time list.

 

[Can Crusher]

It's typical Serpentine Silver posturing, he does it with every fight.

Not this way. Yes he baits, he puts his hands down, showboats. But this sucker showed up with his greatest hits collection. I mean this guy was doing every showboat move he had in his arsenal, running down that playlist on auto.

It was crazy, it looked like he had no awareness of the danger he was putting himself in. This story that some of you are trying to run with that Silva is always like that, is just some more of dat MMA fan memory.

Take Belfort fight as an example, every time he taunts he has distance measure and quick feet. Here he was just acting crazy, like he had no care in the world. He showed so little respect for the guy here, even though he kept getting popped.

I don't see why you wouldn't recognize that Silva showed no respect for Weidman, to the point of it being ridiculous. Shit it was the first time I thought he was two moves away from doing the moonwalk.

I love the benefit of 20/20 hindsight vision. Who did JBJ ever beat?

Steve Bonnar
Ryuto Machida
Post Ateam QRJ
Darth Bader
185# Victor
185# Chapel P. Sonnen

Don't get me started on GSP.

There's no way around it. Great champs do what great champs do, they make other fighters look like crap. "Who did he ever beat" is funny as a joke, but you can't take that seriously because like you said, 20/20 hindsight.

 

[Midas]

José Aldo

Don't know who this, thanks.

 

[alr1ght]

I've really only watched Anderson Silva. Are there any other fighters like him? Who barley tries to go for a take down? Excuse my ignorance but I have no idea, but it feels like I need to start to follow other fighters, and I don't like the wrestling part too much.

Let's see, go on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_UFC_fighters and search for anyone without "NCAA Division X XXXX" listed under credentials.

Jose Aldo
Lyoto Machida-san
Edson Barboza
Thiago Alves
2005 Wanderdei Silva
2005 Shogun Rua

Not this way. Yes he baits, he puts his hands down, showboats. But this sucker showed up with his greatest hits collection. I mean this guy was doing every showboat move he had in his arsenal, running down that playlist on auto.
.

I believe Pauly is talking about Anderson saying he doesn't want a rematch.

 

[Can Crusher]

Dana really wants the rematch because of the money, but IMO give the chance to Belfort. The dude is hungry, he has fire.

Dude is 36 and all he talks is title fight, and has koed two guys who ARE NOT easy to knock out. This after getting knocked the fuck out by Silva.

I believe Pauly is talking about Anderson saying he doesn't want a rematch.

Yeah my bad, I mixed posts in my head. Sorry poly

 

[Vio-Lence]

Can you bring up a great point, but when Jones loses the "creeps and weirdos" will absolutely be able to pick apart his resume and question who did he ever beat. That's why I maintain GOAT is a lineal thing. You can only be the best of your era and beat the competition available to you.

 

[Ezalc]

Sure was fun watching this fight at a bar here in Brasil... in Anderson's home town.

 

[Can Crusher]

Can you bring up a great point, but when Jones loses the "creeps and weirdos" will absolutely be able to pick apart his resume and question who did he ever beat. That's why I maintain GOAT is a lineal thing. You can only be the best of your era and beat the competition available to you.

No doubt. Hell he's got a fight against a can lined up right now. Unless that can wins, then he isn't a can anymore. Jones is.

 

[Pakkidis]

You know what they say, Your only as good as your last fight

 

[alr1ght]

Dana really wants the rematch because of the money, but IMO give the chance to Belfort. The dude is hungry, he has fire.

Dude is 36 and all he talks is title fight, and has koed two guys who ARE NOT easy to knock out. This after getting knocked the fuck out by Silva.

Victor Gracie for UFC Brazilian Championship

 

[Chamber]

Vitor should get the shot. Even if Canderson does come back, it probably won't be for another year given the way he's operated lately.

UFC on Fox 9 is scheduled for December 14th, perfect opportunity there.

 

[Grenouille]

LOL.

You have to go back to 2000 and throw in the Arona fight in RINGS? The one with Fedor squeaking out the controversial decision because Arona thought ground control was part of the scoring?

Regardless, again, we see Fedor fan posting victories ending in 2005. Great. What about those four+ years where he was padding his record with freakshows and cans and running away from the best competition? I've got no problem with saying Fedor posted some great wins pre-2006 vs. Nog. and CroCop. The fraud comes in when the guy does nothing but pad his stats for 4+ years fighting cans in a second-tier fed and enters the Fabricio Werdum fight being called GOAT and "The Last Emperor" and bullshit like that. The fraud really comes into play when people try to compare what Anderson Silva has done--fighting EVERYBODY that shows up to fight, in the toughest fighting promotion on the planet--with no 4+ year record of padding.

And LOL @ "Silva: Henderson, belfort and griffin maybe"

Let's see...

Rich Franklin: UFC Champion

Travis Lutter: Won the "All-star" 4th season of The Ultimate Fighter. Beating out guys like Pete Sell, Scott Smith, Patrick Côté, Edwin DeWees, and Jorge Rivera to earn the title shot.

Nate Marquardt: Three-time King of Pancrase, Perennial "Top Ten" guy in whatever weightclass he'd been in for the last decade or so.

Rich Franklin: (Again) Former UFC Champ

Dan Henderson: PRIDE Middleweight and Welterweight Champion

Patrick Côté: Perennial "Top Ten" ranked guy

Thales Leites: Ultimate Fighter Finalist. When he fought Silva was on a five-win streak including names like Sell, Marquardt, and McFedries.

Forrest Griffin: Ultimate Fighter winner, Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champ

And then a bunch of guys who live in the "Top Ten":

Maia

Sonnen (twice)

Belfort

Okami​

I mean, come on. It's pretty obvious you have to bash your head against a brick wall until you recieve brain damage to think Fedor's shamefully post-2005-padded record compares with The Spider's record over the last 6+ years in the UFC. And Dana White is 100% right to object to anyone trying to compare the two.

Notice how I didn't name any fights after 2006. I don't mind your point about those 4 years, what he did before that was good enough. I don't think any of those names are on the level of prime Cro cop, Nog and Hunt (let's not forget hunt vs wand and the fight against Cro cop). I don't really know why you insist on saying that Anderson has faced some brilliant competition. Not bad fighters, but I thought it was common knowledge that light heavyweight and even welterweight are tougher divisions.

 

[alr1ght]

Our friend Keith Kizer will not license Victor for a TRT exemption. Hence, he should fight for the UFC Brazilian Championship.

 

[Can Crusher]

Vitor should get the shot. Even if Canderson does come back, it probably won't be for another year given the way he's operated lately.

UFC on Fox 9 is scheduled for December 14th, perfect opportunity there.

Yup. This shit must've felt like any other sparring day for Weidman, so I really really hope that they put Weidman defending the belt this year still.

5 months until the end of the year, Mark Munoz and Belfort look good for contenders so there's really no reason to wait 8 months just because Silva has to go through months of sports psychology therapy to not feel like a clown for the rest of his days. Fuck him, unless he accepts to fight him this year.

Our friend Keith Kizer will not license Victor for a TRT exemption. Hence, he should fight for the UFC Brazilian Championship.

Weidman and Belfort are big enough in Brazil to sell 40.000 tickets. There's your stadium show Dana.

 

[polyh3dron]

I don't want to see a Muñoz rematch this early, it'd be Cain/Bigfoot all over again. And where did all the people go who said a win over him didn't warrant a title shot?

 

[Chamber]

Yeah, Weidman completely clowned Munoz. 185 isn't so shallow that he would get a rematch this soon ala Cain/JDS and Cain/Bigfoot.

Belfort and the winner of Okami/Souza would be better options.

 

[Can Crusher]

Yeah, Weidman completely clowned Munoz. 185 isn't so shallow that he would get a rematch this soon ala Cain/JDS and Cain/Bigfoot.

Belfort and the winner of Okami/Souza would be better options.

Munoz is right in line after Belfort, no two ways about it. Weidman beat an inferior version of Munoz.

Put Munoz against Okami.

 

[strobogo]

Never once has Anderson's dancing and clowning made me think "god, they are putting such losers and scrubs against him". It's always made me think "this dude is on some next level shit" in the same way when you see Ali dodging 6 shots in a row like he can see the future.

 

[Chamber]

Munoz is right in line after Belfort, no two ways about it. Weidman beat an inferior version of Munoz.

Put Munoz against Okami.

Munoz was out for a year and came back to beat a non top 10 in Maklershed. If Okami beats Souza, he has 3 top 10 wins in a row. No way can you put Munoz over him.

And let's not start with this "Weidman didn't fight the real Munoz" stuff.

 

[Can Crusher]

Munoz was out for a year and came back to beat a non top 10 in Maklershed. If Okami beats Souza, he has 3 top 10 wins in a row. No way can you put Munoz over him.

And let's not start with this "Weidman didn't fight the real Munoz" stuff.

The hell are you talking about man, he was in title contention before losing to Constantinous. And he finished Okami.

Munoz was in bad shape coming off a recent injury when he faced Weidman, and broke his foot during the fight. Whether you think he can beat Weidman or not doesn't really matter, if he beats Okami he gets next after Vitor.

Or if rematch happens, then it's clear as water that Munoz is going to fight Belfort for title contender numero uno.

 

[ScOULaris]

I'll be having crow for dinner tonight, fellas. Anderson's showboating finally bit him in the ass. What a shame, but I can't say he didn't deserve it. He took taunting too far this time around.

 

[Chamber]

That's what I'm saying, playboy. You can't be off for a year and then beat a guy who's coming off a loss himself and just walk into a title shot. Not unless your name is Chael Sonnen and not when the current champion embarrassed you. "I was sick that day" isn't going to sell to anybody.

If anything I would put Costa and Munoz together.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Anderson was outclassed.

But Silva was hitting him when he willed it!

 

[Lambda Pie]

I've really only watched Anderson Silva. Are there any other fighters like him? Who barley tries to go for a take down? Excuse my ignorance but I have no idea, but it feels like I need to start to follow other fighters, and I don't like the wrestling part too much.

Wicky Nishiura (pink shorts) has a very crowd pleasing style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWYXszPGE7w

 

[TheKaeptain]

Wicky Nishiura (pink shorts) has a very crowd pleasing style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWYXszPGE7w

I knew you weren't a quitter.

 

[Can Crusher]

That's what I'm saying, playboy. You can't be off for a year and then beat a guy who's coming off a loss himself and just walk into a title shot. Not unless your name is Chael Sonnen and not when the current champion embarrassed you. "I was sick that day" isn't going to sell to anybody.

If anything I would put Costa and Munoz together.

Well I'm not saying he gets insta title shot. Either he gets Okami or Belfort.

Two fights is more than enough to show you are contender status again, if you were already in contender status before losing to the now champion.

Say if rematch: Jacare vs Okami, Munoz vs Belfort. No rematch: Munoz vs Okami/Souza.

It's gonna happen playboy.

 

[polyh3dron]

Costa should fight Muñoz.. But I think Costa and Weidman are training partners aren't they?

Muñoz would be a step down for Victor Gracie after KOing Bisping and Boulderclench.

 

[m3k]

Is there anyone else in the other comps that would spice up the division? Even if Anderson wanted a rematch we'd have to wait forever to get it.

also, how has okami developed? I saw his first few fights in the ufc bur then nothing

 

[gwynplaine]

When he threw the punch he step into Silva was more of an indication that he knew how Silva moved.

ya it was a nice move, silva's feet are planted when he clowns

nobody else tried this before? i can't recall anyone but maia but he was too slow/ missed / mistimed his opportunities

guess it really messes with your head.

 

[strobogo]

Have Werdum, Big Foot, or Henderson had any big career bumps after their wins over Fedor? It felt like as soon as they won it was "well, Fedor was washed up anyway, if they had won that fight X years ago it would have mattered". I hope that doesn't end up that way for Weidman, who just defeated the greatest fighter of his era when 16 guys in a row couldn't get it done. That's not fair to him at all.

 

[polyh3dron]

Is there anyone else in the other comps that would spice up the division? Even if Anderson wanted a rematch we'd have to wait forever to get it.

also, how has okami developed? I saw his first few fights in the ufc bur then nothing

Okami grapplefucks most guys but Boetsch came from behind and beat him, Sonnen dominated him and Anderson KO'd him after some showboating.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Rockholdt is going to hand Weidman his ass.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Rockholdt is going to hand Weidman his ass.

No way you typed that without laughing.

 

[m3k]

Okami grapplefucks most guys but Boetsch came from behind and beat him, Sonnen dominated him and Anderson KO'd him after some showboating.

meh

 

[Alebelly]

and "Motivated BJ"

'In-shape BJ'

 

[illmatic22]

I love the benefit of 20/20 hindsight vision. Who did JBJ ever beat?

Steve Bonnar
Ryuto Machida
Post Ateam QRJ
Darth Bader
185# Victor
185# Chapel P. Sonnen

Don't get me started on GSP.

Shogun, after everyone said it was too soon.

 

[Rekki-Maru]

I never thought the mocking was great for the sport or Anderson's career, even when he was winning. When Anderson is standing there, letting a guy like Stephan Bonnar tee off on him and get free shots at his chin which Silva shrugs off like it was nothing, what is that saying about the level of competition? You are basically saying to all hte people that paid hundreds of dollars for tickets or $60 for PPV "This guy is a fucking SCRUB who has no shot of beating me". It's like the problem Roy Jones Jr had in his prime. He's have these publicity stunts where he would play in a semi-pro basketball game in the afternoon and have a professional title fight at night, thinking that will sell tickets, but all that told fans is "If this guy can play in a basketball game during the day and still fight at night, the guy he must be fighting must suck ass".

that's true. there's another side to that too. these fighters representing their disciplines. just there to clown the others..that's how ufc got started. the gracie family wanted to prove their style was the best. Royce did the same shit, not as much of a showboat, but the same.

 

[Chamber]

ya it was a nice move, silva's feet are planted when he clowns

nobody else tried this before? i can't recall anyone but maia but he was too slow/ missed / mistimed his opportunities

guess it really messes with your head.

It definitely messes with you but this is why a lot of people brought up Weidman's size/reach. Candy completely misjudged the distance he had.

 

[polyh3dron]

No way you typed that without laughing.

This. I'm thinking it was some kind of 7th dimensional trolling attempt.

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

 

[TheKaeptain]

]

But Anderson gave up and didn't try to punch him?

 

[Sato Koiji]

....Ya

 

[Byakuya769]

Never have I seen a more deserving knockout.

 

[bone_and_sinew]

No way you typed that without laughing.

Michael Bisping is going to jab his way to a belt was way funnier.

 

[Gr1mLock]

Pros react to Weidman's victory on twitter.

 

[Arment]

Ugh.

Just watched it.

As a huge Silva fan I couldn't help but think he deserved it for acting like an asshole.

But I also know most people in the middle weight division are excited to have someone they can beat now.

 

[hom3land]

Ugh.

Just watched it.

As a huge Silva fan I couldn't help but think he deserved it for acting like an asshole.

But I also know most people in the middle weight division are excited to have someone they can beat now.

How was he more of an asshole than any other of his fights? He was doing the same antics as he always does.

 

[Arment]

How was he more of an asshole than any other of his fights? He was doing the same antics as he always does.

And every single time I groan and say, "Come on Silva, fight." When he does, it's awesome.

I said the same thing this time and this time he messed up and planted himself there too long and got fucked

Not to mention I never said he was more so an asshole this time, not sure where you got that.

 

[dream]

Pros react to Weidman's victory on twitter.

The lovely Julie Kedzie nails it. The resounding boos just shows what classless douchebags Ultimate fans generally are.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Anderson Silva: Hero when he dancing and runs away from Maia in the 4th and 5th after catching one right on the chin. Asshole when he gets knocked out in the 2nd.