There's a petition for asking Microsoft To Bring Back Xbox One's DRM

Liamario

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Perfect lol!
 

Liamario

Banned
Larry Hyrb REDMOND, WA about 2 hours ago

Hey Gang:

Good to see some community outreach taking place here. Just wanted to mention that we are actively listening to feedback from our users and your comments here are indeed being parsed and I will certainly do my best to share your sentiments with my compatriots and those higher up on the ladder to help inform their decisions.

Kudos to all for being true 'agents of change.' In the darkness a single candle flame can provide the illumination needed to find the path to truth. I am humbled to be surrounded by so many paths of guiding light here.

cheers,

MajorNelson

It's not him. He spelled his own name wrong, if it is.
 

mclem

Member
I've said a few times that I'm completely comfortable with the idea of a digital-only console in principle, but it absolutely needs to come with the benefits we're already comfortable with from physical products. Confer the same rights on digital that we already have on physical, and I'll be there straight away.

Hmmm. Can I comment on the petition without *signing* the petition?
 

Steroyd

Member
Bandwidth cap.

In terms of not downloading one big 50GB game in one go, I see where you're coming from, but if MS is really pushing "The Cloud" in terms of uploading and downloading data constantly for even singleplayer experiences (i.e Forza's Drivatar and from what Ted Price has mentioned about Sunset Overdrive and it's constant updating), Plus the need to be online at least once a day, it's easy to see the bandwidth add up overtime for the month just for the sake of switching on the console and play games.
 

mjAUT

Member
There are definitely people out there who are serious about this.

The petition reminded me of a blog post by an Austrian Microsoft employee.

Just read the post and the comments...
 

Pillville

Member
Haven't these people learned anything from:
Xbox Live hacks
PSN hacks
Your internet provider downtime
Router Failure
Simcity
Diablo III
and every online game that has had the servers shut down because it's no longer profitable

I really think 99% of the people who still want online-only are people who just sit around and play competitive online games exclusively. They already consider an internet connection required to play.
 

Rebel Leader

THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Haven't these people learned anything from:
Xbox Live hacks
PSN hacks
Your internet provider downtime
Router Failure
Simcity
Diablo III
and every online game that has had the servers shut down because it's no longer profitable

I really think 99% of the people who still want online-only are people who just sit around and play competitive online games exclusively. They already consider an internet connection required to play.


Hurricanes
Tornadoes


Power will always be up before internet in these areas.
 

artist

Banned
There are definitely people out there who are serious about this.

The petition reminded me of a blog post by an Austrian Microsoft employee.

Just read the post and the comments...
Yes ..

VlaudTheImpaler said:
Friend, no one is making anybody buy this LUXURY, furthermore, what is anti consumer to you may not be anti consumer to someone else. Believe it or not I actually want this DRM for multiple reasons.
BillyBats said:
Why is the DRM such a big deal to people? I've never had a problem with it. Isn't it a system just to make sure that the game is legit?
Jomjom said:
Looking forward to DRM which will prevent piracy and used games which will result in more dev/pub profits, which in turn will mean more and better games for us!
Four_Chamber said:
In the end, if Microsoft smooths out their message about DRM just bit (and they have plenty of time) , this will be the gaming console to purchase without a doubt.
Parch said:
IMO, and I think the DRM concerns are grossly exaggerated on GAF. There's big potential for a gen of not only quality gaming but value gaming.
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=562309
And more in here - http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=560438
 
Think about it...there's a DRM defense force.

Such a notion would be unthinkable outside of corporate meeting rooms, but here we are.

I know a minority of guys in the industry who are pro DRM.

their stupid arguments are: developers would make more money because all games will be purchased new.

my argument to counter them is: if nobody buys the console due to DRM, then nobody will buy your games period.
 
Stockholm Syndrome

That Second Post! lol



That is basically true. Honestly, I cannot believe that people are asking for it back, unbelievable. They should have named it Xbox 180, this is getting ridiculous.




Also, I think this petition shows how out of touch some people are with things. Sure, you can create a petition for whatever you want. But just think about it for a minute. Do you really think Microsoft is going to Remove DRM, then add it back? No way! That would be a PR Nightmare worse than they have had so far. Plus, its pretty obvious people want the DRM just for the Family Sharing. We never saw Family Sharing demo'd, Microsoft promised details "later" about how everything worked. There are rumors it didn't work as we were lead to believe. I would be careful what you wish for, even though, DRM is not coming back.
 
Personally i had no problems with it.
I hate video game cases and physical copies.
But i understand others dont have a good connection or do like physical copies.

Nah how about people making a petition to kill mandatory kinect?
 

nib95

Banned
Ignorant and naive people are signing this petition. People that actually think the Family Sharing plan was more than just a demo trial option.
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
I've seen some defenders argue against the uneducated that are afraid of change.

Because good 'ol Microsoft was going to help struggling developers, while at the same time allowing you to share your game with ten other people. Oh, and they were going to put the evil Gamestop out of business.

I wonder how many brain cells a single can of Mountain Dew kills?

EDIT: I think I might sign this thing. I would love to see them do another 180 so they can bend over all of their brainwashed fans.
 

Jarnet87

Member
So if it does a 180 twice, do we call it the Xbox 360 2 or the Xbox 360 again, maybe Xbox 360 to the power of 2.

Honestly the always online and DRM stuff never bothered me. I never really trusted Microsoft to do good by the gamers with these implementations but it would have been cool to see if it worked.
 
I get so sick of the Steam comparisons for the Xbone's original draconian policies. The two aren't all that comparable, the major (and most obvious) one being that when I purchase a PC I'm not stuck with Steam if I don't like it.

That said, being able to trade digital games on a console does sound neat, but I don't think we need the extreme DRM policies in order to have that feature implemented.
 

Ponn

Banned
Again I really wish MS would have stuck to their guns and released Xbox One the way they wanted to. With an alternative in place I would have loved to see how the next generation would have played out with one system going the route developers and publishers have been beating their drums about. In the end we are going to end up with MS vision in the future, it is inevitable. This petition, though mocked on GAF is not far from the reality of the general consumer. And it wouldn't take much to convince even the hardcore or gaffers to start rationalizing to themselves that something is necessary to continue gaming, even begrudingly.

MS will be back to full on Xbox One DRM and policies by the end of the systems life, would bet anything on that. It will be a slow burn inching its way back in bit by bit and with each revision it will come with a hook to get people to accept it as the norm. By doing it this way it will also allow and in a way force Sony to follow suit.

With the two boxes being at the other end of DRM spectrum from the start it would have at least been interesting to see how it would play out and maybe postponed the DRM-ocalypse longer maybe another generation. In the end I don't really feel MS backpeddling was a win for gamers because at least you had a company flaunting their plans publicly. We could have seen the whole game sharing for what it was publicly instead of playing into MS's hands with this whole "Well we were going to offer this unbelievably cool game sharing thing possible only because of the power of Cloud and DRM but you bitched too much so now were are taking it away so don't you feel bad now *guilttripmomsface*" Now you are dealing with underhanded, sneaky, crack-dealing MS which is a beast no one wins against.
 

spookyfish

Member
Yes, you could have full shared games with up to ten people. They removed that when they reversed the DRM.

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/statuses/348125219019436033

No, they SAID you could share games with up to 10 people.

They never explained nor showed how it would work. Some info has come out that the feature was like a timed demo (60 minutes).

I don't believe for one minute they would let 10 people share one game. Why would developers say no to used games, but be OK with that? It defies logic.
 

ShirAhava

Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
Never cared about DRM one way or the other....my only issue with Microsoft is Kinect. I'd rather they bring back DRM and ditch Kinect.

Signed
 
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