Pacific Rim |OT| Apocalypse Never
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woop woop, and so it begins
Not really. I mean, if you look closely enough you might recognize some things, but nothing really noticeable in general.
If you are going into this movie to watch some acting, you're doing it wrong. If you enjoy this movie for what it is, then you are going to have a hell of a time. I had 8 friends lined up in IMAX 3D last night, and we all came out with giant grins on our faces. A great night at the movie theater.
Just got back. It was a pretty enjoyable movie and definitely more or less what I expected from "giant robots vs giant monsters" and Del Toro. Unfortunately it wasn't more than what I expected, which could have made it pretty amazing. It's certainly an honest film filled with heart, and a surprisingly family friendly one too, but the scope of the story felt extremely narrow - to the detriment of the narrative. There's nothing really wrong with the base story though, it just lacks any sort of fleshing out at all. The characters are completely undeveloped outside of Mako, and I don't really feel that there was much room for anyone or anything (that includes robots and monsters) to truly shine in the movie.
It goes through the motions of the robots/monsters theme well enough to entertain on that level, and I'm really happy that someone finally managed to make a big budget blockbuster featuring my favorite fanboy desires, but I think that there could have been something much more special here if it was approached in a different way. I would be much more invested in a narrative set during the earlier period of the war, showing the developing of the Jaegers and the Kaiju actually destroying cities and mankind reflecting on the aftermath of the battles. It would still have lots of action, but it would also be more memorable.
The best parts of the cheese in the film are definitely the parts with Ron Perlman's character and his organization. Wish we got to see more of that too. I really dug the main music theme too, it was right out of some 80s or 90s cartoon. Really wish more of the action was set in daytime and in cities instead, but I think I'll live. Seems a bit of a waste to have robots of different colors which look great together, and then just make them all look similar with dim lighting anyway.
Oh well, at least I got to watch a decent live action ROBOTS VS MONSTERS movie before I die. That's one thing off the bucket list!
It goes through the motions of the robots/monsters theme well enough to entertain on that level, and I'm really happy that someone finally managed to make a big budget blockbuster featuring my favorite fanboy desires, but I think that there could have been something much more special here if it was approached in a different way. I would be much more invested in a narrative set during the earlier period of the war, showing the developing of the Jaegers and the Kaiju actually destroying cities and mankind reflecting on the aftermath of the battles. It would still have lots of action, but it would also be more memorable.
The best parts of the cheese in the film are definitely the parts with Ron Perlman's character and his organization. Wish we got to see more of that too. I really dug the main music theme too, it was right out of some 80s or 90s cartoon. Really wish more of the action was set in daytime and in cities instead, but I think I'll live. Seems a bit of a waste to have robots of different colors which look great together, and then just make them all look similar with dim lighting anyway.
Oh well, at least I got to watch a decent live action ROBOTS VS MONSTERS movie before I die. That's one thing off the bucket list!
Really? I thought the shot in the trailer of Elizabeth+Dundas (One block west of Bay/Dundas) was pretty recognizable.Right behind City Hall.
Guys... No words... So fucking awesome. Mechs looked amazing and fight scenes are epic. Kojima, evilore all 100% spot on with their evaluation. I pictured Kojima crying watching the movie... And all the otaku fans in the world will love the movie. Yep there isn't too much story but it doesn't need it. The movie is fun and beautiful to look at. Granted I didn't really like pans labyrinth but am a big del toro fan now! Hope it does the business it deserves.
Edit: have to also agree with everything duckroll said but would also say that I see most of that as minor flaws... As a first attempt at bringing robots on the big screen and making a summer movie filled with big time action I think it delivers. And fitting a lot of duckrolls elements would not make it feel as lean and snappy as the completed product is.
Edit: have to also agree with everything duckroll said but would also say that I see most of that as minor flaws... As a first attempt at bringing robots on the big screen and making a summer movie filled with big time action I think it delivers. And fitting a lot of duckrolls elements would not make it feel as lean and snappy as the completed product is.
Well yeah that's what I mean, you can recognize certain areas if you're been to it before.
But nothing really super stands out like rappelling down City Hall in that Resident Evil movie
Terrible Majesty
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I agree with you.
Poindexter
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I think most people expected it to be front loaded since it's a fanboy affair. Not getting my hopes up for a big weekend number. But I'll keep talking it up to family and friends and berating people with shit on Facebook.
Nothing to say that hasn't already been said, just an amazing show. Even the soundtrack was awesome. I didn't have to filter through 40 minutes of boring crap (i'm looking at you Shore/Zimmer) to find the one score played throughout most of the movie that I actually enjoyed. It was right there on track 1.
Probably not under the direction of Del Toro, yeah. I think he did as good a job as he could with what he knows he was really good at, and I don't really want to fault him for that. I just find the universe in Pacific Rim really interesting beyond the movie, and I find it a bit of a waste that we won't see a lot of that. Maybe I'm just pessimistic because I expect the movie to kinda tank and not become a franchise of any sort.
demosthenes
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Just got back. It was a pretty enjoyable movie and definitely more or less what I expected from "giant robots vs giant monsters" and Del Toro. Unfortunately it wasn't more than what I expected, which could have made it pretty amazing. It's certainly an honest film filled with heart, and a surprisingly family friendly one too, but the scope of the story felt extremely narrow - to the detriment of the narrative. There's nothing really wrong with the base story though, it just lacks any sort of fleshing out at all. The characters are completely undeveloped outside of Mako, and I don't really feel that there was much room for anyone or anything (that includes robots and monsters) to truly shine in the movie.
It goes through the motions of the robots/monsters theme well enough to entertain on that level, and I'm really happy that someone finally managed to make a big budget blockbuster featuring my favorite fanboy desires, but I think that there could have been something much more special here if it was approached in a different way. I would be much more invested in a narrative set during the earlier period of the war, showing the developing of the Jaegers and the Kaiju actually destroying cities and mankind reflecting on the aftermath of the battles. It would still have lots of action, but it would also be more memorable.
The best parts of the cheese in the film are definitely the parts with Ron Perlman's character and his organization. Wish we got to see more of that too. I really dug the main music theme too, it was right out of some 80s or 90s cartoon. Really wish more of the action was set in daytime and in cities instead, but I think I'll live. Seems a bit of a waste to have robots of different colors which look great together, and then just make them all look similar with dim lighting anyway.
Oh well, at least I got to watch a decent live action ROBOTS VS MONSTERS movie before I die. That's one thing off the bucket list!
I was thinking about the movie this morning some more and this post is pretty much how I feel. I really liked it but just had a little thing missing. I'm thinking of finding someone this week and going to see it again.
I really REALLY really hope it does well!
Well, it depends on what you find unappealing about the trailer. The movie is quite fun, moves at a brisk pace, and a lot of the scenes in the trailers make more sense in context with proper scene flow and better editing. I think all the trailers have been pretty poorly put together, but at the same time, they definitely represent the film fairly on a visual level. If you don't like what you're seeing in the trailers at all you probably won't enjoy the movie, if you just think the trailers don't tell you enough about what's going on - don't worry about that. The opening sequence in the film explains everything really well and makes the setting much more interesting than the trailers do.
Wouldn't surprise me at all. And that tends to be the stuff that gets cut out anyways, as was the case with Kingdom of Heaven and the LotR films.
Honestly I don't really know what 40-60 minutes of added exposition would really add to this movie. As duckroll said, it would probably have to be set in a different time period for that to help, closer to the beginning of the war with the Kaiju. With the plot of this movie, it would just make it unnecessarily bloated and boring at times. Like The Avengers.
demosthenes
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Can you imagine them spending $10 million on a scene and then just cutting it? I mean, who would do that? LOL
Poor Singer
Please god, please let it be so.
forgeforsaken
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Am I the only one a bit offended by some of the writing about this movie? Just leads more credence that there is a segment that wants this to fail, painting people that want to see it negatively
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-report-pacific-rim-584582
Here's the same type of article for WWZ
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-report-brad-pitts-572656
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-report-pacific-rim-584582
Here's the same type of article for WWZ
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-report-brad-pitts-572656
Expendable.
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Uh, look at the entire concept and marketing of the movie. It is THE fanboy/geek movie, seems pretty on point.
JetBlackPanda
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Curious where you were in Utah? all of the theaters around me non 3D (Utah County) were sold out for Pacific Rim.
Sandy, Jordan Commons Megaplex.
forgeforsaken
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A few years ago you could have made the same case about Iron Man.
Expendable.
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And I'm sure articles were written about the fanboy attraction to that movie.
Should have cut the
good news/bad news
Darth Pinche
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saw it last night in 3D IMAX and my dreams were fulfilled. Ever since being at the original announcement 2 years ago and then the first footage screening at Comic-con last year, my hype level has been on overdrive. I was overjoyed that the film did not disappoint. It was exactly what it should be, a big, rocking roller coaster with giant robots and giant monsters!!!
The theater was about half full, which I still think was impressive for a 10pm Thursday. People clapped at the end and during and everyone had a big grin at the end.
My favorite part :
. I had goosebumps and it was truly terrifying.
Thank you Del Toro, you are a God.
The theater was about half full, which I still think was impressive for a 10pm Thursday. People clapped at the end and during and everyone had a big grin at the end.
My favorite part :
The flashbacks to Mako's childhood encounter with the kaiju
Thank you Del Toro, you are a God.
Just canceled the apocalypse. It drags a little in the middle but it was fantastic on the whole. Probably the best summer blockbuster this year and I think I would even rank it ahead of Avengers. I would have liked a bit more meat to the origin story though. Perhaps a prequel would make sense.
EDIT: Oh and I think the experience would translate well to an IMAX screen. Will probably catch an IMAX viewing next week.
EDIT: Oh and I think the experience would translate well to an IMAX screen. Will probably catch an IMAX viewing next week.
demosthenes
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I'm wondering how a prequel would work....
I suppose they could build it up from the very start and just have the climax either be the first cat 2 or first cat 3 monsters
No idea. For me, I've always found the origin part of monsters/disaster movies to be the most interesting which is why I enjoyed Cloverfield so much; it was basically just one extended first-person origin story.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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I've just come from straight from the cinema and was (unusually) compelled to share my thoughts.
First I should preface that I don't watch film trailers, so all I knew about this going in was: Del Toro, giant robots & (maybe) giant monsters.
In two words: Oh dear.
In slightly more words: There is absolutely nothing in this film, except perhaps Ron Perlman's slight presence, that would lead you to suspect that it's directed by Del Toro. Instead, it has all the hallmarks of a film from Michael Bay, or even dare I say it, McG. A cast of two-dimensional non-entities, spouting absolutely nothing of interest, peppered with competent (occasionally interesting) action. It's incredibly dull. I'd even say that the first Transformers is the better film.
Such a disappointment.
Still, it was alright to watch some giant robots smashing around some giant monsters for a couple of hours, as we don't really get much of that in the cinema. Just don't expect anything more.
First I should preface that I don't watch film trailers, so all I knew about this going in was: Del Toro, giant robots & (maybe) giant monsters.
In two words: Oh dear.
In slightly more words: There is absolutely nothing in this film, except perhaps Ron Perlman's slight presence, that would lead you to suspect that it's directed by Del Toro. Instead, it has all the hallmarks of a film from Michael Bay, or even dare I say it, McG. A cast of two-dimensional non-entities, spouting absolutely nothing of interest, peppered with competent (occasionally interesting) action. It's incredibly dull. I'd even say that the first Transformers is the better film.
Such a disappointment.
Still, it was alright to watch some giant robots smashing around some giant monsters for a couple of hours, as we don't really get much of that in the cinema. Just don't expect anything more.
Count Dookkake
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Comparisons to Bay and McG are bullshit.
I read the comic. It serves as a prequel.
I just don't understand how people could expect more.
Thinking of ordering it. Is it worth it?
Probably not under the direction of Del Toro, yeah. I think he did as good a job as he could with what he knows he was really good at, and I don't really want to fault him for that. I just find the universe in Pacific Rim really interesting beyond the movie, and I find it a bit of a waste that we won't see a lot of that. Maybe I'm just pessimistic because I expect the movie to kinda tank and not become a franchise of any sort.
He said/Hinted at and Anime at the pre-screening he had the other day.
Disagree. This film shits all over the Transformer films. The action is a lot more intense and you can actually see what is happening instead of getting a sequence of blurry fast-moving images from all kinds of stupid angles. Also, there is absolutely no cringeworthy Bayhumor in this and that mere fact alone elevates it over all of the Transformer movies.
I'll focus on your Bay comparison since I believe we both know a McG comparison is ridiculous. The problems I had with the first two Transformers films (didn't see the third one, so if they fixed it up please excuse me) is that aside from Optimus Prime and Bumblebee I could not remember which Transformer was which. The action was incoherent, the humor was filled with just plain innuendo, and it felt like it dragged on far too long.
Whereas in Pacific Rim, even if I couldn't recall the names of the Jaegers or even the Kaiju, they were all distinctive in my mind. I could also cheer for the Jaegers because of just how much more the movie made me care about them more than the Transformers, and also because they didn't have as much shit flying on the screen I could tell what was actually happening.
And finally, the humor in Pacific Rim was rather abundant, but was nowhere near as dirty. This definitely felt like a film I could've and should've brought my little 9 year old nephews too because most of the jokes were just good clean fun. For some reason I just enjoyed that more.
The thing is for me, what makes this movie different is because it IS a movie. We've already had animes and mangas and whatnot about giant robots versus aliens, and while they would probably make a solid anime it's not why I was excited about Pacific Rim. If they do anything with the franchise, it's got to be another film.
Not surprised. Don't normally pay attention to any of that.
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Adam Scott Aukerman
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Like I said, I knew essentially nothing about it going in bar Del Toro's involvement, so I absolutely expected something more. By the standards of his last 10 years of film making, it's an absolute stinker.
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