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Verdict reached in George Zimmerman case - Not Guilty

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I think there's a real problem when you can pursue someone with a weapon and then claim self defence when a confrontation occurs even if the self defence is legitimate at that point in time. I feel like there needs to be a law against actively following someone while you have a deadly weapon on your person.
 
Maninthemirror said:
There was doubt and american justice says if any doubt no matter how small you will be free. This is what happened
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There was no doubt that if Zimmerman hadn't chased a teen down with his gun then that teen would be alive. This seems so obvious yet completely ignored and just confounds the shit out of me. It doesn't matter who was screaming for help, it doesn't matter if Zimmermans head was banged into the ground, it doesn't matter who was pinning who down, Zimmerman ignored the 911 people and chased the teen down, period. .
 
This is an embarrassing moment for all Americans, not just the Florida Justice Department.

I look forward to the next case that uses the precedent set here as their defense.
 
PhoReal said:
I'm shocked. His life is fucked either way.
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Do people really believe this? Dude can disappear half way across the world no problem and live a perfectly normal life. Heck give it a year or two max and going to another state and he would blend in no problem. Can change his name too if he wants.

However, as a human being, the psychological torture of killing another human being I would imagine will be with him for the rest of his life. If he has some sense of a conscience at least. I know it would haunt me even if I knew I did it in self defense.
 
malfcn said:
What happened?
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They lied and spoke in code about how much money they have so the bond for Zimmerman would be much lower. This was a while ago, though so my memory of the exact stuff is fuzzy.

Holy Crap said:
That mother fucker can raise some funds, civil case or not. Shit's fucking disgusting.
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Unless he's starting a Kickstarter to make Star Citizen 2, it won't be enough.

criesofthepast said:
Do people really believe this? Dude can disappear half way across the world no problem and live a perfectly normal life. Heck give it a year or two max and going to another state and he would blend in no proble. Can change his name too if he wants.

However, as a human being, the psychological torture of killing another human being I would imagine will be with him for the rest of his life. If he has some sense of a conscious at least. I know it would haunt me even if I knew I did it in self defense.
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Wrongful death suit don't care where he goes, among other things.
 
As I stated in the other thread, I expected an acquittal, but I'm disappointed.

It's a shame that the Martins can't have justice for their dead son. He was shot dead for walking down the street and "fitting the profile." It's disgusting.

My wife is crying right now, so I'm out for the night.
 
It is legal in America to shoot and kill someone as long as nobody's around and you tell the cops that the other guy was shouting action movie cliches at you.
 
Alright, so someone's child is dead and you get to walk away free with the privilege to buy more firearms?

This is too much.
 
The thing that pisses me off the most is that he has never once showed any shred of remorse over this. None. He believes he did the right thing, and it was God's plan, and wouldn't change anything he did even knowing what he does now.

Which is that Trayvon wasn't doing anything wrong, wasn't a criminal, and belonged in the neighborhood.

So that tells me that it doesn't matter if Trayvon fought back, or threw the first punch. Zimmerman is proud that he killed a kid for no fucking reason. And that is sickening. And he got away with it.
 
Dark FaZe said:
O'Mara and the defense did a great job, but this verdict is a failure of legislation more than anything else at this point. There have to be more grey areas and a thorough look at self defense law in general.
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This I'd agree with--the mind-blowing part of the whole thing is that there's zero question that Zimmerman killed a kid, and zero question that he essentially started the sequence of events by chasing him down. But, legally, the prosecution had to prove the unprovable beyond a reasonable doubt, because just proving that he did it and he started it wasn't enough.

The news commentator on the livestream I watched mentioned that he thought the defense had the argument won on the legal side of things, but that the prosecution had it on the moral side of things. And it's frustrating that there's such a wide gulf between the two in this case.
 
Alright, I have minimal knowledge of the case - but am I right in thinking that forensics confirmed Martin was on top in the scuffle, and therefore likely the aggravator? Not sure where I heard that, but it's shaping my opinion of the verdict and I'd like a confirmation.
 
Shit like this is also why a lot of Black people were happy as fuck when OJ's guilty ass was found not guilty. Black people have been ass rammed by the system since there WAS a system, and to see it work out in a Black mans favor while fucking over white people was unprecedented. It was impossible not to smile just a little.
 
The Skater said:
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gaf never dissapoints me.

I bet you nothing happens, no Rodney King stuff and all.
 
So all that someone needs to do to murder someone clean in this country is to carry a concealed weapon, then attack them at night. As they defend themselves, shoot them and say you were defending yourself.

Uh... what the fuck?
 
Based on the charges and evidence, the verdict is right. Manslaughter, maybe. Wrongful death, absolutely. Murder? Yeah....not a chance
 
freddy said:
I think there's a real problem when you can pursue someone with a weapon and then claim self defence when a confrontation occurs even if the self defence is legitimate at that point in time. I feel like there needs to be a law against actively following someone while you have a deadly weapon on your person.
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Sounds like a form of stalking to me... or at least it should be recognized as such.
 
Isn't there no proof at all that he was even attacked? So how can he kill someone and claim self-defense if there is no proof of him being attacked?
 
JudgeN said:
Black kid is dead and as usual no one gives a shit, my parents taught me long ago the law was never going to be on my side. Shame but we all knew it was coming, found it odd there was no black jury members either.
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Yeah, NOBODY gives a shit, clearly, based on thats all anyone has talked about for months.
 
How does this reflect poorly on our justice system? This is our system, just because it doesn't go the way you wanted does not mean the system failed. The evidence just wasn't there. The whole thing was very muddy. Yes, Zimmerman's entire story sounds fishy and personally think he was trying to be a gung-ho hero, but there isn't anything to prove that he went out to create that outcome. I'd rather our justice system let people go under circumstances like this rather than convicting people who might not be guilty. We can't lock people away based off inclinations and perceptions. There was tons of reasonable doubt about what lead up to the shooting.

Both sides presented their case, he was tried in front of a jury of his peers. This was justice in our country.

I'm a little disappointed. But I'm just happy this went to trial like it should have.
 
I get the idea that you know, legally or whatever, it may have been a good decision based on whatever factors etc and people backing that. What I don't get is rah-rah cheering.
 
criesofthepast said:
Do people really believe this? Dude can disappear half way across the world no problem and live a perfectly normal life. Heck give it a year or two max and going to another state and he would blend in no proble. Can change his name too if he wants.

However, as a human being, the psychological torture of killing another human being I would imagine will be with him for the rest of his life. If he has some sense of a conscious at least. I know it would haunt me even if I knew I did it in self defense.
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You haven't seen his interviews. No remorse or emotion, stated that it was "God's plan."
 
It was correct verdict in the case with the evidence presented. There was a good chance that if the jury went on emotion instead of evidence and got the manslaughter conviction that he'd have a great chance to get it overturned on appeal.

Just hope people stay civil out there, and we don't see riots over this.

There was a reason they didn't press charges to begin with.
 
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