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Verdict reached in George Zimmerman case - Not Guilty

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Somebody tell a mod I ad hominemed this piece of shit fucking idiot on the forum, I will be happy to take the ban. Starwarsfan541 you are a piece of shit.


(Unless he is joking - In hich case I am a drama queen)

Is Frankie gonna' have to choke a bitch?
 
I don't keep up with the US news and politics much, but didn't OJ Simpson, a black guy, walk for a crime which he obviously committed in the public's eyes? So how can you just say that?

Ever notice how people always mention OJ?

BECAUSE THE SHIT IS JUST THAT RARE
 
You're as stupid as the jury was, then.

There's no rational way you can argue that Zimmerman should have avoided the situation, then turn around and say it's okay that he killed the kid in self defense. Pure bullshit.

Why can't I say that? Dumb ass should have done exactly as he was told. He didn't, but it doesn't stop the fact that he was getting his ass whooped and felt threatened.

I by no means feel GZ is innocent at all. Repeatedly, he should have been charged with Manslaughter. But lets not ignore the facts.

I guess I'm one of the few that doesn't go with the majority of GAF on here about this case; where I feel he should have been charged with a crime, but not murder.
 
If I was close to home, I'd just go there.
You'd let some stranger stalking you follow you to your home and find your address. I know a lot of anti stalking classes say this is the wrong thing to do. That person now knows your address. They could come back when you are sleeping or wait there while you are gone during the day.
 
What the fuck else do you expect the medical examiner for the DEFENSE to say? Look at the picture and judge for yourself. If his head was really being bashed into concrete, he'd have been knocked out. Instead he was able to get his gun and shoot.

Gimme a break, the guy did not even need a hospital visit!

This guy has credentials up the wazoo.

It's up to the prosecution to put doubt in what he testifies to and they didn't even come close.

You can believe what you want but it's a trial and experts sometimes decide the cases.

If he was playing for the defense team(seemed actually very credible to me), the prosecution would have exploited that.

They failed.
 
The only problem is whether Trayvon was being "a punk" or felt threatened and took the opportunity to strike first (I'm more keen to the latter).

What would you do if an unknown man approaches you at night questioning your business?

Either run or whoop his ass no doubt, especially a psycho with a gun.
 
the OJ example actually just supports the theory that blacks are discriminated against in the courtroom. rich black people are virtually white people in the eyes of the court. not to mention that he's like what, the only black person to get off on a murder?
 
Wow.. Just woke up from a nap and saw the verdict..

Then, I saw someone post this on a friend's status about the verdict on Facebook:
The only people who disagree with this verdict on my newsfeed all happen to be ermmm, black. Why does anyone care is what I'm asking, there are plenty of far worse and bigger things than this. NSA and illegal drone assassinations overseas for one. If people really care about injustice, they'd be all over those subjects but obviously the media controls peoples emotions and it worked magically for this trial.

I---wow.
 
Your absolutely right. I didn't pursue it. Z should not have pursued. But all evidence points to him getting his ass whooped and feeling like he was gonna die. He did what someone who felt like they were gonna die would do. His dumb ass should have left and all this could have been avoided, but the what happened happened, and he defended himself.
Gotta love the Internet...
 
Zimmerman didn't get off because the defense articulated anything clearly. EVERYTHING was contended. On NO LEVEL did Zimmerman's telling of the events that night make sense.

It all came down to the prosecution doing THAT bad a job handling this case.

Yup, he stated multiple accounts of how that night played out, some even contradicting what he previously stated.

However, the rhetoric by the defense was enough to place that seed of doubt in the jury's mind.

That looks like a couple minor scratches really, the head is known to bleed quite a bit due to the position of the veins close to the surface. There's no doubt he should have gotten manslaughter as he initiated things, but I guess Florida's laws are dumb.

Which worked out in his favor, to the layman seeing a bunch of blood like that clearly means a person was seriously harmed.
 
... Fuck. That's actually got a good chance of happening. Republicans are going to eat this shit up.

the NRA and no politician is going to touch him with a ten foot pole, get real.


At any rate, this is a good barometer to start de friending racists on my Facebook. Even got a minority saying they're happy about the decision.
 
No. All evidence points to his injuries being incredibly minor.

Stop posting.

Have you ever been in a fight? When you are fighting on a street, it's much different than a boxing ring or structured fight where you know you are walking away. Shit is much much different in a street fight.
 
Your absolutely right. I didn't pursue it. Z should not have pursued. But all evidence points to him getting his ass whooped and feeling like he was gonna die. He did what someone who felt like they were gonna die would do. His dumb ass should have left and all this could have been avoided, but the what happened happened, and he defended himself.

Why can't I say that? Dumb ass should have done exactly as he was told. He didn't, but it doesn't stop the fact that he was getting his ass whooped and felt threatened.

I by no means feel GZ is innocent at all. Repeatedly, he should have been charged with Manslaughter. But lets not ignore the facts.

I guess I'm one of the few that doesn't go with the majority of GAF on here about this case; where I feel he should have been charged with a crime, but not murder.

LMAO, gimme a break. There wasn't even DNA found on Zimmerman from Travon, nor did his injuries came from Travon.
 
I don't keep up with the US news and politics much, but didn't OJ Simpson, a black guy, walk for a crime which he obviously committed in the public's eyes? So how can you just say that?

You know why he walked? Because he was a millionaire with great legal defense (most black guys aren't) and the evidence was tampered with by racist police officers.
 
I don't want to be the one to point out the obvious but... If you haven't noticed, the police don't have any particular aversion to either arresting or imprisoning minorities on a typical day. A riot will just give them carte blanche authority to increase their arrest statistics. And the rioters will end up destroying either their own communities and/or anthers.

The only people who will lose are the rioters, and the only people who will win will be racists and Fox news.


I really really really hope there are no riots. Because you are right. It will be the bigots of this country's I told you so moment.

GZ clearly should have been convicted of something no question. That's not going to happen. Some momentum to change some things in the legal system however could be very positive.
 
You're as stupid as the jury was, then.

There's no rational way you can argue that Zimmerman should have avoided the situation, then turn around and say it's okay that he killed the kid in self defense. Pure bullshit.

Think about it harder before you call the jury stupid, stupid. Zimmerman should not have followed Martin, this is basically an uncontested fact. Merely following someone is not starting a fight and does not settle who was the aggressor in the actual violence or whether there was cause for someone to fear for their life as a result of that violence.
 
Exactly! A major reason OJ is even remembered is because EVERYONE was wondering how he actually got off free

And unarmed black person getting killed and people walking is a REGULAR thing. A REGULAR thing. I fucking hate when people bring up OJ like that negates shit that has been going on for decades.
 
Just got home from work.... I'm absolutely disgusted. I hope there is a surge of gun sales by black people in Florida since it's legal to conceal and carry. They have just a right as any whiter person and if they see someone looking suspicious to them, follow them and if things get iffy, hey do what you got to do. Oh yeah, they would be jailed for life if they did that, nevermind.
 
You'd let some stranger stalking you follow you to your home and find your address. I know a lot of anti stalking classes say this is the wrong thing to do. That person now knows your address. They could come back when you are sleeping or wait there while you are gone during the day.

Then call the cops, apparently I had a phone.
 
Actually it makes a lot of sense that he would be joyful. And he's not shown the class to avoid that type of reaction so I think it was a fair question to ask.

Not saying he's a great guy in general but when did he act classless during the trial???

I didn't think it was appropriate even to laugh in that instant as the case was a heavy one but while he acted like a fool that tragic night, he didn't act improperly during the actual trial.
 
America the land of whites

Its a wonderful day to see that Hispanics are now finally part of the Caucasian community.

Outcome isn't too much of a surprise, the prosecution team really couldn't prove anything. It may be worth it to evaluate some of our self defense laws in Florida though, since it can be really hard to prove a person guilty under them in cases like these.

Whats more interesting is it seems the prosecution team hid a bunch of evidence from the defense. If true, this case could very well be the end of the carriers, since doing so has the penalty of disbarment.
 
Think about it harder before you call the jury stupid, stupid. Zimmerman should not have followed Martin, this is basically an uncontested fact. Merely following someone is not starting a fight and does not settle who was the aggressor in the actual violence or whether there was cause for someone to fear for their life as a result of that violence.

Exactly.
 
the NRA and no politician is going to touch him with a ten foot pole, get real.


At any rate, this is a good barometer to start de friending racists on my Facebook. Even got a minority saying thats happy about the decision.

Based on what? The NRA get's more hyperbolic every single year. There is no way he doesn't at least attract some political attention as a gun rights advocate.
 
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?

So you're saying an innocent black kid deserved to be shot and killed because five completely unrelated criminals assaulted you? Are you that dumb to think these five men are representation of the actions and behavior of all minorities, especially a kid walking home after buying candy? For fucks sake.
 
Ever notice how people always mention OJ?

BECAUSE THE SHIT IS JUST THAT RARE

Word. That trial was nearly 20 years ago.

Think about that folks, 20 years and there was ONE Black man that had enough money to beat the system.

That fact that people still mention OJ as the example that a Black man "can" get away with it kinda shows how much of an outlier that was.
 
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?

how can they rob your beer if you were in the bar first?? Also if it was in the dark and you couldn't, how you tell what race they were then??
I think you should go to psychiatrist first then to a looney bin.
 
Word. That trial was nearly 20 years ago.

Think about that folks, 20 years and there was ONE Black man that had enough money to beat the system.

That fact that people still mention OJ as the example that a Black man "can" get away with it kinda shows how much of an outlier that was.

Wasn't so much of an outlier as it proved another rule first: money buys justice.
 
This guy has credentials up the wazoo.

It's up to the prosecution to put doubt in what he testifies to and they didn't even come close.

You can believe what you want but it's a trial and experts sometimes decide the cases.

If he was playing for the defense team(seemed actually very credible to me), the prosecution would have exploited that.

They failed.

The prosecution was terrible but that doesn't mean Zimmerman and the defense expert aren't full of shit. There is no way you get your head bashed into concrete repeatedly and not need immediate medical attention!
 
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
Your analogy fucking fails because of what happened to TM and you were totally different.
 
Wow some of these responses are crazy in here
Stop making this about race
You missed the case highlights an the post verdict interview by the defense attorneys. Bruh they were on tv defending profiling. If that's not a case about race I don't know.
 
So you're saying an innocent black kid deserved to be shot and killed because five completely unrelated criminals assaulted you? Are you that dumb to think these five men are representation of the actions and behavior of all minorities, especially a kid walking home after buying candy? For fucks sake.

No, you completely misunderstood my post, I probably could have constructed it better, but what I was say is that if I had a weapon and was on the ground getting my ass beat, and I shot and killed someone that was punching me, would you think that was a crime?
 
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