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[SonnyBoy]

Is that supposed to be an actual quote? When was that said?

That's basically what this ruling insinuates. I better be ready to answer the questions of my superior citizens as to why I'm in this neighborhood.

 

[Krappadizzle]

I never heard "talk shit, get hit" in my life.

And the phrase you should really have said was, "sticks and stones", because usually people are allowed to say whatever the hell they want and hitting them still isn't warranted. Even your parents would tell you this shit, and any decent parent would tell their own kids this as well... it's not cool to hit someone first. People are doing the whole "yeah, but" in this instance because it's a "white" dude killing a black "child".

Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him or even talked to him, but that doesn't give ANYONE the right to hit him first. Furthermore, If someone attacked me, broke me nose, and then cracked my skull into the pavement without me ever throwing a punch, and I thought they would continue I'd shoot their ass in a heartbeat.

And to all the internet tough guys claiming his injuries weren't that bad, get real. Some dude is on top of you, beating on you you'd be pissing your damn pants and most of you would be crying like little girls. It's easy to say they weren't that bad, and the man didn't fear for himself from the comfort of your computer chair.



I wouldn't attack him, break his nose and then slam his head into the ground.

This is pretty much what I've failed to try and say for 2 pages. Thank you.

 

[ISOM]

How about not turning around and beating on someone who is merely following you? When you decide to turn around and 'get physical' as you euphemistically put it you are the aggressor and the other person is defending themselves... Is this supposed to condemn the Zimmerman verdict? Because it's actually the opposite.

How about not following people? Anyone has the right to feel threatened if someone is stalking them and to confront or fight said stalker.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Anyways race is not a real thing

What the fuck?

Do you also think the sky being blue is not a real thing, just a scientific explanation for a phenomenon that occurs in nature?

 

[Row]

The comments by gz's defense team are pretty dusgusting - its as if theyre trying to taunt the dead kids family

 

[ryutaro's mama]

The Zimmerman apologists in this thread are mystifying.

 

[Raptor2155]

So basically this sets the precedent, at least in Florida, that it's alright to drive around late at night armed as a sort of vigilante confronting anyone you profile to be suspicious. Then the second that your random confrontation of an unsuspecting person causes them to become angry/upset to the point of getting physical you have the right to shoot and kill that person. Alright then...

Yeah, this case really helps expose how shitty Florida gun laws are. I don't think lawmakers really considered what could happen if people are allowed to kill someone as a result of a physical fight.

Good job Florida, now any physical altercation can turn into a deadly one.

 

[Aristion]

Pretty much this.

And yes how this turned into a Black vs. White thing when GZ is hispanic is beyond me. I remember him being called a white hispanic in the initial reports.

A major part of the reason this case was such a mess.

HISPANIC IS NOT A RACE.

There are white Hispanics, black Hispanics, Asian Hispanics etc.

Please stop being ignorant of my ethnicity.

 

[params7]

How about not following people? Anyone has the right to feel threatened if someone is stalking them and to confront or fight said stalker.

Right to feel threatened, sure. But they don't have the right to physically attack and bruise them.

 

[Mr. Patch]

Oh....

Don't forget Dzhokhar Tsarnaev being a "Normal pot smoking teenager."

vs

Trayvon Matin the "POT SMOKING DRUGGIE THUG"

 

[nib95]

I never heard "talk shit, get hit" in my life.

And the phrase you should really have said was, "sticks and stones", because usually people are allowed to say whatever the hell they want and hitting them still isn't warranted. Even your parents would tell you this shit, and any decent parent would tell their own kids this as well... it's not cool to hit someone first. People are doing the whole "yeah, but" in this instance because it's a "white" dude killing a black "child".

Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him or even talked to him, but that doesn't give ANYONE the right to hit him first. Furthermore, If someone attacked me, broke me nose, and then cracked my skull into the pavement without me ever throwing a punch, and I thought they would continue I'd shoot their ass in a heartbeat

That's because you're a coward. Hate to be so blunt, but that's basically what it boils down to. Cowardice. Cowards shoot people when they're losing a fist fight, especially one they initiated themselves. Don't go following people if you can't handle the repercussions that follow. It is only natural that someone being followed in the middle of a dark and rainy night is going to be on the offensive, fearing for their own safety. If some guy was following me, I'd also immediately be on the offensive. Who knows what they could be or be after. Some dirty rapist for all I know.

 

[lazorexplosion]

How about not following people? Anyone has the right to feel threatened if someone is stalking them and to confront or fight said stalker.

You do not have the legal right to initiate violence against someone who is stalking you. It's that simple.

 

[Biker19]

The Zimmerman apologists in this thread are mystifying.

You can say that again. Like with Krappadizzle & Rafterman.

Posters like them make me laugh.

 

[Sent]

Right to feel threatened, sure. But they don't have the right to physically attack and bruise them.

I love how all of this is now "fact" now that he is Not Guilty.

 

[Devolution]

You do not have the legal right to initiate violence against someone who is stalking you. It's that simple.

He already tried to flee.

 

[Soler]

I think he was only guilty of manslaughter myself but murder 2 is NOT "premeditated murder"...

Whatever the case was is whatever they couldn't justify
I apologize I wasn't following the case intently or up to snuff on alot of the details
What I'm trying to say is there is no reason to believe Zimmerman is found not guilty of murder 2 because trayvon was black. That's just complete nonsense

 

[blame space]

listen, if you can't shoot a kid through the heart that you stalk in your car who did nothing wrong then this just isn't the america i thought i lived in.

 

[googleplex]

These are technicalities
The prosecution wasn't strong enough to bring forward a good enough case that justified premeditated murder
I think Zimmerman should get time but I don't think the jury ruled he was innocent because trayvon was black

Your being ridiculously naive.

 

[Booshka]

Knock, knock, whom of you are intolerant idiots.

Hello?

You are now Jurors on the George Zimmerman trial.

 

[Krappadizzle]

you never mentioned about your neighbor til now. Second you're relying on stereotypes for vocal recognition of both races. Thirdly, you never mentioned that you went somewhere else to get beer other than from going to the bar to drink with a friend to getting ambushed on the way home down the street...that now have street lights. Next, you insult me because I provided therapeutic consultation. FInally...you're full of shit.

I guess we argued when we assumed things huh?

 

[Kyon]

You do not have the legal right to initiate violence against someone who is stalking you. It's that simple.

Explain him running away tho

 

[faceless007]

Among other things, this is further evidence that money truly can buy a better defense. Zimmerman's lawyers were just better.

 

[Derwind]

I'm black.

I will not be going to Florida, since I would fear for my life walking from a 7 Eleven.

Nah you should be fine, just remember to read up Flordia curfew hours, dress code, walking pace statute and Junk food concealed carry act. While your at it, cross reference all this with the melanin count measure. Then you should be just fine.

 

[params7]

I love how all of this is now "fact" now that he is Not Guilty.

I just started following the case after the verdict broke. I thought such things were common sense?

 

[Sent]

Whatever the case was is whatever they couldn't justify
I apologize I wasn't following the case intently or up to snuff on alot of the details
What I'm trying to say is there is no reason to believe Zimmerman is found not guilty of murder 2 because trayvon was black. That's just complete nonsense

Then stop posting.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Talk about unrealistically moving the goal posts. Dead women always change the equation no matter the race.

The point is that some people in America are valued more than others. Such a value disparity is blatant in our criminal justice system. That is a problem. If you can't or won't concede that simple flaw then you're also a part of that problem. Stop being in denial. Stop being obtuse about it.

 

[Daingurse]

How about not turning around and beating on someone who is merely following you?

Why the fuck is someone following me? Why the fuck was Trayvon inherently suspicious? Merely following me SMH, I would definitely feel threatened if someone I don't know is following me, apparently profiling me based on, let's get real here, my race. The whole situation is fucking ridiculous, but yeah I'm not going to confront anyone following me from now on, because apparently I have no right to be suspicious of such a thing, but hey I'm just trying to not get fucking shot walking down the street.

 

[hypernima]

A Hispanic vs a black is essentially what this case is lol
I think Zimmerman was guilty but come the fuck on some of you are crazy with this black man thing

It's kind of funny how much some White people try to disassociate him from their genetics. As to say a different part of his racial disposition is responsible for it.

That being said I am saddened.

If I have kids I will still have to give them that "talk"
I will have to worry myself about compromising my comfort just not to arise suspicion
(I literally did not wear my hood when walking in the winter through predominantly white neighborhoods after this incident.)

 

[CHusson91]

listen, if you can't shoot a kid through the heart that you stalk in your car who did nothing wrong then this just isn't the america i thought i lived in.

Why are you allowed to blatantly troll like this?

 

[comedy bomb]

I hope street justice succeeds where the law has failed.

 

[MThanded]

You can agree with the verdict.

Don't come in here and try to justify the killing.

Over the line.

 

[Uncle Rupee]

That's your reasoning, really? The brain is an extremely sensitive part of the body. Strong enough smacks can trigger all alarms for flight-or-fight reflexes.

You'll know how it is once you've actually been in a fight and have taken some strong punches directly on your cranium. Such attacks are always life-threatening.

The photo someone posted shows it was minor cuts / scratches. If it had been life-threatening, chances are good he would have been knocked unconscious and been unable to shoot the kid. The kind of fight you're talking about is like MMA style fighting, savage blows to the head. Travyon Martin is a scrawny teenager, I doubt he was capable of doing much damage.

 

[Wallach]

edit - whoa wrong thread

 

[gutter_trash]

HISPANIC IS NOT A RACE.

There are white Hispanics, black Hispanics, Asian Hispanics etc.

Please stop being ignorant of my ethnicity.

I'm tired too of Americans using the term Hispanic for racial profiling. it is nonsensical

 

[Orayn]

Why are you allowed to blatantly troll like this?

Antiphrasis is not trolling. Trolling implies being intentionally disingenuous and deceptive, but Blame Space's comment is so over the top that it's hard to ascribe that motive to it.

 

[Soler]

Then stop posting.

So if we're not armchair lawyers such as yourself we can't post our opinions on a forum? Hah don't make me laugh. Do yourself a favor and ignore me then smug ass

 

[DragonSworne]

Zimmerman will be in prison sooner or later. It's just going to take another innocent person getting hurt or killed, which id the said part because it will happen given his history.

 

[inm8num2]

Among other things, this is further evidence that money truly can buy a better defense. Zimmerman's lawyers were just better.

http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/

 

[BrokenEchelon]

I wish Zimmerman would get some sort of punishment for being a dumbass and exacerbating the situation.

There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that he caused this shit to escalate by following Trayvon.

Regardless of whether or not the Jury was racist, it's going to end up being a fight between unreasonable people blaming all white people for this shit, and bigoted people blaming black people for violence, and neither group is going to help solve or improve racial relations in this country.

 

[Angelus Errare]

As long as you can get them to throw the first punch, you can shoot to kill them.

Not if he's black.

 

[Spring-Loaded]

These are technicalities
The prosecution wasn't strong enough to bring forward a good enough case that justified premeditated murder
I think Zimmerman should get time but I don't think the jury ruled he was innocent because trayvon was black

Those "technicalities" are reality. It is now conceivably legal according to Florida lawto kill an innocent child on purpose.

You said this isn't about race. It's about race. It's about a lot of things, and race is one of them. It's about race.

Please tell me: do you really believe race has nothing to do with it? I can't imagine even the most deluded, most detached-from-reality person truly believing that race has nothing to do with this slaying or with this case.

 

[Jaleel]

You're the layman. The people who aren't laymen are the jurors who heard the full evidence including the testimony and cross-examination of the experts called to the trial because of their relevant expertise. How many days of testimony did you sit through again?

How so? Those bloody pictures with the testimony of Vincent DiMaio stating how mild concussions can occur from the blows Zimmerman sustained would certainly effect the jurors perception of how injured Zimmerman was.

 

[Iron_Scimitar]

This will blow over in a week.

Let some new Jordans come out.

=\

 

[Sent]

So if we're not armchair lawyers such as yourself we can't post our opinions on a forum? Hah don't make me laugh. Do yourself a favor and ignore me then smug ass

You can post all you want, it just makes you look like an idiot if you haven't read up.

 

[MThanded]

This will blow over in a week.

Let some new Jordans come out.

=\

bruh...

come on bruh.

 

[Satch]

This will blow over in a week.

Let some new Jordans come out.

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also TRASH


edit: whyt he fuck do i keep ending up at the top of the page jesus

 

[Sanic]

I hope street justice succeeds where the law has failed.

Saying things like this just spirals us into deeper problems, and are partly responsible for the subtext of situations like this.

 

[Jenov]

It's been brought up about 20 times in this thread. Nobody said it was dropped.

ugh, FL needs to get rid of that law.

 

[Verano]

I guess we argued when we assumed things huh?

not "we"...you. Mostly you, Im afraid.

 

[Krappadizzle]

You can agree with the verdict.

Don't come in here and try to justify the killing.

Over the line.

I'm on the other side though. I disagree with the verdict but felt the killing( which IS fucking unfortunate) was justified.

I'm sorry if I come off as an asshat to some of you here GAF. I'm a nice person. I just don't agree with some of you.