quickwhips
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Kingdom Hearts 3
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Kingdom Hearts 3
Why does it make sense when Sony was asked by Devs to reduce 5 shares to 2? Why does sharing with 10 make sense?
Syphon Filter
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MS doesn't have much sellers either. God of war sold 5 million which is insane for that genre.
Let's downplay a feature which is confirmed by a dev because is not in the platform we are championing!
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Because it was purely a trojan horse to get people buying digital.
It's pretty obvious.
famousmortimer
Banned
The whole "microsoft is paying third parties to keep quiet about other versions of games" rumor was a weird one and I said as much when I posted it. I also have the benefit, over cboat, that I write paragraphs so I can get into a bit of the minutia of rumors. If I'm remembering correctly (I wish I didn't post so much so I could look through my history easier) I had said that it was a shaky rumor from the show floor. CBOAT seemed to have heard it also. I think it was a pretty prevalent rumor. But who knows if it was actually happening... maybe it was but then Sony trumped them with even more money? Maybe it was completely made up paranoia? I have no idea. That's why I don't think I presented it as fact - I apologize if I did. If someone is actually good at searching for things on this site I'd love to see what i posted.
There's a difference between CBOAT and I, beyond him having a much more awesome username and writing style than me... he is an actual insider. I'm just a friendly old dude that knows a lot people in the industry that posts more stuff than he should. CBOAT is on the inside and he has about a decade of leaks behind him. No one is 100%, because shit changes or isn't clear.
For instance! I thought Mirror's Edge 2 was a Xbox One exclusive. The reason I thought this was that it kept popping up on various seller sites as the xbox one version and it seemed to actually exist and the two people I know at Sony that have access to lists of upcoming games didn't see it listed. So I put that info together and claimed it was only coming to the xbox one. Seemed like a safe bet. I was wrong. Either it's really far off and that's why Sony didn't have it on a list... or it was held off for secretive reasons. But it's not like I made things up and was wrong - I just made a jump in logic that I probably shouldn't have. That's on me though, I accept that.
Other times things change. I don't think I mentioned it, but I was told going into the February event by a developer than the ps4 had 4gb of ram. So if I had posted that it would seem like I was incorrect (I don't think I did post that though). What i've found out since then is they made the decision to go up to 8gb just a few days before then and told no one. So while I would have been wrong.... I wasn't. It was 4, but then they upped it.
It's impossible to be right all the time. A lot of this stuff is fluid - it changes. This is also an industry filled with sleight of hand and rumors trying to keep things secretive. And there definitely are people who just make shit up... and GAF does a good job of getting rid of them. But I do hope that the things I got right (Halo 4-2 (aka not halo 5), DR3, insomniac exclusive (and them not having a ps4 dev kit despite jstevenson coming to a thread to expertly discredit me without saying they had one), Titanfall, etc. Plus back in february I had all four games that were going to be at the event, including Knack which no one had heard of - but i hope that's earned me a bit of slack. Because sometimes I'm wrong. Totally was on MS moneyhatting 'talking" during e3. Totally was on ME2 being x1 exclusive. The jury is still out on whether Hawken or League of Legends are MS exclusives like I was told. We'll see. But clearly I'm not making shit up. And neither is CBOAT. But... we both will be wrong. Probably many times.
There's a difference between CBOAT and I, beyond him having a much more awesome username and writing style than me... he is an actual insider. I'm just a friendly old dude that knows a lot people in the industry that posts more stuff than he should. CBOAT is on the inside and he has about a decade of leaks behind him. No one is 100%, because shit changes or isn't clear.
For instance! I thought Mirror's Edge 2 was a Xbox One exclusive. The reason I thought this was that it kept popping up on various seller sites as the xbox one version and it seemed to actually exist and the two people I know at Sony that have access to lists of upcoming games didn't see it listed. So I put that info together and claimed it was only coming to the xbox one. Seemed like a safe bet. I was wrong. Either it's really far off and that's why Sony didn't have it on a list... or it was held off for secretive reasons. But it's not like I made things up and was wrong - I just made a jump in logic that I probably shouldn't have. That's on me though, I accept that.
Other times things change. I don't think I mentioned it, but I was told going into the February event by a developer than the ps4 had 4gb of ram. So if I had posted that it would seem like I was incorrect (I don't think I did post that though). What i've found out since then is they made the decision to go up to 8gb just a few days before then and told no one. So while I would have been wrong.... I wasn't. It was 4, but then they upped it.
It's impossible to be right all the time. A lot of this stuff is fluid - it changes. This is also an industry filled with sleight of hand and rumors trying to keep things secretive. And there definitely are people who just make shit up... and GAF does a good job of getting rid of them. But I do hope that the things I got right (Halo 4-2 (aka not halo 5), DR3, insomniac exclusive (and them not having a ps4 dev kit despite jstevenson coming to a thread to expertly discredit me without saying they had one), Titanfall, etc. Plus back in february I had all four games that were going to be at the event, including Knack which no one had heard of - but i hope that's earned me a bit of slack. Because sometimes I'm wrong. Totally was on MS moneyhatting 'talking" during e3. Totally was on ME2 being x1 exclusive. The jury is still out on whether Hawken or League of Legends are MS exclusives like I was told. We'll see. But clearly I'm not making shit up. And neither is CBOAT. But... we both will be wrong. Probably many times.
It is not in Xbox either...
Because you could share those 5 copies on PS3 at the same time but only two copies at once (original owner plus one friend at the same time) with family sharing.
It was at some point.
maplelord93
Banned
To be fair KH3 and XV were PS4 exclusive at one point.
10101
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I read through that earlier and while some of it was "no comment" or "don't know" there were some interesting tidbits. The part about the kinect cost caught my eye along with the whole PS4 being more powerful admission.
Quite refreshing to read his perspective on it all actually, better than the PR trash we have been fed upto this point anyway.
Quite refreshing to read his perspective on it all actually, better than the PR trash we have been fed upto this point anyway.
not_so_special
Banned
im amazed by the fact that some people still believe that the ms "family program" its a way to give your game free to ten friends.
Syphon Filter
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No feature is worth it considering thew circumstances and policies.
What feature?
There was also a feature in PS4 where everyone gets 100 Free games. But unfortunately they removed it so we can have free DRM console.
But boy oh boy was that a great feature.
Well, you can share your games with more than 10 people in the 360 actually.
Thats a diferent thing, of course. The feature was great, but also at a great price.
Yeah but the demos thing got people playing and hooked into the game which they could continue by buying...if you share the whole game it's not going to sell as much.
R3TRO
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Lets get a petition going for that Beast.
Not every game was like that. There were games you could only play on different consoles every 24 hours.
There was vague shit about the family plan and no clarification or specificity despite numerous requests in written form or on video. No, the feature wasn't great.
They are playing up the vagueness and the interpretation of the Xbox faithful that was created after they had to do a 180 after being beaten at pre-orders.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
not_so_special
Banned
that feature is called psn plus XD
maplelord93
Banned
Now we're doubting Verendus?
famousmortimer
Banned
No, they weren't. A lot of people thought that, and even convinced me that they were even though a dude who has never, ever been wrong had been telling me all along that they were trying to get it to be exclusive but Square was asking for too much....
He was right, everyone else was wrong. It wasn't ever an exclusive.
I don't get this, I had no end of problems getting my games from one console that was faulty onto another due to drm limitations...after many a phone call I ended up waiting a year so I could transfer the games again, in the meantime my kids could only access the demo versions on the same console.
not_so_special
Banned
explain to me how these ten can play these games with different accounts at the same time?
statham
Member
Ryse should aim a little higher then Darksiders 2
Oh, i'm with you. The system has a lot of flaws. But the sharing is still possible.
maplelord93
Banned
Unfortunately it seems to be aiming quite a bit lower.
In the family sharing plan only two people can play at the same time the same game. In the 360 you can do that thanks to the dual licenses.
dragonelite
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To say combat is good in darksiders is one thing.
I played it more because it was zelda for grown ups.
Ultra Magnus
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Lol beat me to it
LukasTaves
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Kinect 2 is time of flight, that requires an camera extremelly more expansive than the off shelf IR camera they used on Kinect 1.
I'm amazed by the fact that some people still don't understand the major points of the family sharing plan and think it's equivalent to giving away 9 copies of a game for free.
If it was not (assuming full games), then please enlighten us...
No I said that Sony followed MS's lead when building the PS4.
Now that you've seen both machines you can line up here and tell me I was right.
Yeah I was warned about the forum leaning to one side over the other and making me a junior as a result confirmed that reputation.
not_so_special
Banned
No I said that Sony followed MS's lead when building the PS4.
Now that you've seen both machines you can line up here and tell me I was right.
lol..no
maplelord93
Banned
What evidence do you have to come towards this conclusion?No I said that Sony followed MS's lead when building the PS4.
Now that you've seen both machines you can line up here and tell me I was right.
dragonelite
Member
I read on B3D that intel released an lower specced IR TOF camera for like $150.
Then the R&D cost for software and engineering of the custom kinect chip and audio block which is not the SHAPE that was leaked on VGLeaks. The kinect2 audio and Shape are both a component of the X1 audio chip.
Personally if you ask me all that R&D into kinect sounds wasted on E3 i hardly saw games using it in exciting ways stupid voice commands if you asked me 2 years ago i might have given an other answer. Dont see uses in it for games except maybe the party and dance games stuff. Let me know when an hologram room can be build for under $15k so i can make my body ready
Manmademan
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That's the thing. When I speak about how "broad" sony's first party is, it's obvious that they're not targeting the same gamers over and over.
Gears and Halo are likely VERY similar audiences, for instance.
But there's no real crossover between MLB:The Show, and Flower. or Uncharted and Little Big Planet. Gran Turismo and PSABR. Starhawk and Sorcery. Journey and Heavy Rain. Sports Champions and Wonderbook. Sly 3 and White Knight Chronicles. etc.
at worst you could say they tend to trend more "male" than not- but that's the vast majority of console gamers right now and unavoidable.
There's some crossover between Killzone, Resistance, and MAG, (being shooters), but those are a small fraction of total output. If you're going to talk about what the "PS audience" is, it's very difficult to say sony should "branch out" to new gamers- they're practically the only platform holder actively doing so right now.
BruceLeeRoy
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No I said that Sony followed MS's lead when building the PS4.
Now that you've seen both machines you can line up here and tell me I was right.
Yeah I was warned about the forum leaning to one side over the other and making me a junior as a result confirmed that reputation.
Oh man so you were serious
No I said that Sony followed MS's lead when building the PS4.
Now that you've seen both machines you can line up here and tell me I was right.
Yeah I was warned about the forum leaning to one side over the other and making me a junior as a result confirmed that reputation.
Haha wat
The ps4 would be very different if it copied MS. Pseye would be packed in, DDR3 not DDR5, price would be higher, DRM would have been packed in and given a solid united middle finger to used sales and less fortunate gamers everywhere.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
LINK?
I didnt want to comment anything more on the OP,
but I have to comment on the "cboat is not legit" thing:
cboat is a modern gaming hero, and those who try to discredit cboat are only discrediting themselves.
we get who knows how many pages of this "reddit AMA" useless info, while in comparison cboat's each word is worth MILLIONS!1! everytime 8)
so, there!
but I have to comment on the "cboat is not legit" thing:
cboat is a modern gaming hero, and those who try to discredit cboat are only discrediting themselves.
we get who knows how many pages of this "reddit AMA" useless info, while in comparison cboat's each word is worth MILLIONS!1! everytime 8)
so, there!
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