Warner is looking for franchises now that Harry Potter and Batman are done. Del Toro has a ton of cred but doesn't direct a whole lot and was already working with them on the Hobbit.
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Warner is looking for franchises now that Harry Potter and Batman are done. Del Toro has a ton of cred but doesn't direct a whole lot and was already working with them on the Hobbit.
Should have gotten Will Smith and made him a hot blooded male lead like you see in some mecha anime. Have Will Smith have he's own finishing move, something akin to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZjSxRCiqg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZjSxRCiqg
XiaNaphryz
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Have you given your PR impressions yet? I might have missed it.
Haven't seen it, don't want to.
Sirpopopop
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Cuaron is an amazing director.
Yet, I'm skeptical of Gravity.
Based on the trailer, Bullock's performance looks to be awful, and the quality of the movie is going to hinge on her performance.
You seem to be agreeing with me by saying only a single scene in the trailer got people excited to see Pacific Rim.
The action in Pacific Rim was very slow-paced and unexciting for the most part. I'm not saying it was bad, but there was barely any standout "watercooler moments" that you would be freaking out about and telling all your friends and colleagues the next day. Maybe the part where they used a boat as a sword, but that's pretty much it.
I really enjoyed the movie but I'm not quite sure how PR cost $190 million. Michael Bay accomplished way more on the same budget.
that ending bit in the trailer, with her little legs and arms flailing about like a spastic bug floating on an obvious green screen was so silly. that ending 5 seconds of the trailer made me lose all interest in the movie.
GdT probably thought this would be the only shot at a giant mech and monster movie and asked for as much money as possible. I mean, a District 9 sized budget could have made this profitable, build a brand name, get sequels and build up to a larger budget later on. Even Chronicle with its tiny budget worked visually in many ways. i guess for the general audience, without any stars or decent marketing campaign this is still in that league rather than a real blockbuster.
My girlfriend wants me to see grown ups 2 with her tomorrow.
Sorry guys
I haven't even seen the first one :lol
Get her to see PR after.
PR is doing alot better than expected and pretty good numbers for a new IP.
We'll see if it has better legs in the coming weeks.
afternoon delight
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I'm just glad PR has done was well as it has, but people wishing for a sequel should be disappointed.
The scene was also an extremely slow action scene, which you said audiences weren't interested in.
What? The special effects in Pacific Rim are incredible, and part of the reason they're incredible is that the action is slowed down and comprehensible. Every blow matters instead of being a frenetic mishmash of shards of metal. It also has a material feel that is missing in Transformers; when a jaeger runs, you feel like a thousand ton robot is actually running thanks to the combination of sound, editing, and special effects. When a Transformer robot climbs a building, it suddenly stops being several tons and instead becomes as light as a person.
It's not even like the movie is lacking money shots. Pretty much everyone who watched the movie thinks
the reveal of Otachi's wings and subsequently Gypsy Danger's sword
I think tone matters more for a trailer than how much shit is on the screen at a time. After the Man of Steel trailers, you know what shot was most talked about? Not one of the shots filled with spaceships, but the shot of Superman simply putting his fist on the ground and then flying up. Audiences have seen those massive clusterfuck metal and lights sequences so many times that it takes something new to wow them.
Nailed it.
I kinda liked Spanglish (80% sure it was him).
LOL @ The Heat beating Lone Ranger. Is it normal for so many summer blockbusters to bomb one after the other?
XiaNaphryz
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wat
yep yep yep he totally did.
Transformers is not even one fucking tenth the movie PR is.
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Let's be real here. Punch Drunk Love would've been a great movie with or without him. I feel like PTA put him in the movie just to prove a point, and he did.
I know it sounds weird to say, but whenever I've seen such large-scale productions with lots of CG use, the parts that didn't get the same level of TLC stick out, even if it costs ridiculous amounts of money. I never got that impression once during Pacific Rim, and seeing that the upper estimates for the budget put it right around $200 million, Del Toro must have really run a really effective production, since I would have figured it cost more than that. Hell, there's even films that cost more than that with absolutely terrible CG, like Spider-Man 3.
Basically, it's like being marveled at how much Hellboy 2 cost all over again.
Probably 80-85% actor salaries.
freenudemacusers
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It was entirely CG and filmed on the avatar motion capture studio.
Now we know why Rob Schneider was left out of this one: his weird hair is too expensive to render on that kind of budget.
Fox Mulder
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I was looking on iTunes for a movie and grown ups was at like 8 or so on the top charts the other day. It's no shock that the sequel is doing well, as fucking sad as it may be.
it has no chance at hitting 150 domestic with that opening. 115-125 max. And will need about 400 mil worldwide to profit with that budget which it won't do with the weak numbers everywhere but asia.
scytherage
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Pacific Rim is still the best popcorn flick of 2013. If there's no sequel it's fine since the movie stands alone very well. I watched it twice now, and it was fun on both occasions.
Anime styled action has never been mainstream; I guess the movie is really true to the source material in that case. It's good that GDT got as big a budget as he could to make this film.
Anime styled action has never been mainstream; I guess the movie is really true to the source material in that case. It's good that GDT got as big a budget as he could to make this film.
My girlfriend wants me to see grown ups 2 with her tomorrow.
Sorry guys
I haven't even seen the first one :lol
It's her or us.
You decide what's more important.
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DiscoJer
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I think the real problem is that 38 million in a weekend is considered a "bomb".
Movie budgets have become like AAA game budgets. Way, way too much. Justified when there is a megahit, but those are relatively rare.
If you can't make a movie for $100 million dollars, then IMHO, you're doing something wrong. And at that budget, a lot of these flops would have been profitable.
Movie budgets have become like AAA game budgets. Way, way too much. Justified when there is a megahit, but those are relatively rare.
If you can't make a movie for $100 million dollars, then IMHO, you're doing something wrong. And at that budget, a lot of these flops would have been profitable.
shira
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GDT had a coupon
While there are way too many projects being granted $200M+ budget, it's a lot harder to grab the attention of viewers overseas with an action film that was in the $100M range or lower. Even the Fast and Furious series (which is on the cheaper side for a tentpole film) really took off overseas when they started pumping more money into the production. Most countries have their own film industries. The one thing the local films can't match is that Hollywood level of spectacle.
Then ask overseas why they want 8 Ice Age movies?
Mr.Wreckless
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I don't see how you could get that much CGI work on a limited budget.
Yeah is not like they can recycle cgi stuff like Despicable me.
FrenchMovieTheme
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i don't know why people are jocking pacific rim so much. the fights were awesome but they made up like 10% of the movie. it was better than WWZ i guess, but nowhere close to superman. it wasn't a bad movie but i don't think its a travesty if it doesn't make its money back. the asian actress was fucking god awful. they should've had her speak in her native language the entire movie and not english. she sounded like she belonged in a sci-fi original movie. terrible.
i also took issue with some of the robots and some of the fights.
i know you can bring this type of nitpicky shit up about any movie ever but it really rubbed me the wrong way. i would watch the movie again if it were free on netflix or something but they should've cut a half hour out of the movie. the dramarama was hilariously bad and they should've just concentrated on what they did right: awesome robot vs. monster fighting!
i also took issue with some of the robots and some of the fights.
first off, howcome the jagers would always pick up the monsters and throw them? fucking stupid because throwing one of the monsters back in the ocean a) doesn't hurt them at all and b) lets them regroup and get at you from a better angle. if you had them in a killer hold why not try to snap their necks or do some actual damage?
secondly, the jagers just repeatedly got their asses tossed around. the monsters were much faster and more powerful. i get that the program had been shelved or whatever but then THIRD why did the russian/crimson robots not have swords too? why did the guy from sons of anarchy and the asian not use THEIR sword from the get go in that one fight? your punches against the monsters don't really do much but a sword could fuck them up badly.
secondly, the jagers just repeatedly got their asses tossed around. the monsters were much faster and more powerful. i get that the program had been shelved or whatever but then THIRD why did the russian/crimson robots not have swords too? why did the guy from sons of anarchy and the asian not use THEIR sword from the get go in that one fight? your punches against the monsters don't really do much but a sword could fuck them up badly.
i know you can bring this type of nitpicky shit up about any movie ever but it really rubbed me the wrong way. i would watch the movie again if it were free on netflix or something but they should've cut a half hour out of the movie. the dramarama was hilariously bad and they should've just concentrated on what they did right: awesome robot vs. monster fighting!
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Makes me annoyed to see posts about how Americans have bad taste or somehow movies are ruined because Pacific Rim bombed. Maybe not everyone wanted to see another mediocre action movie this year. Grown Ups 2 isn't exactly a gem itself, but if you really expected it to do bomb while people flocked to PR, you're delusional. I have no desire to see Pacific Rim, and if the general love here for Man of Steel is anything to go by, I guess that I just don't share the taste of many people here.
Put your foot down. Don't contribute to Sandler's gross.My girlfriend wants me to see grown ups 2 with her tomorrow.
Sorry guys
I haven't even seen the first one :lol
Yeah I am a huge Toku fan, but I have no desire to see PR before it is on netflix. The new Ultraman series looks like it has more soul.
You're out of your mind.
I can see why Grown Ups 2 would make money. All four main actors still probably have their fanbase. Chris Rock certainly still has fans, and Adam Sandler probably has a bunch of middle aged fans desperately clinging to their youth. I'm sure there's also King of Queens fans who will go to see Kevin James and of course everyone loves Andy Samberg's Lonely Island/SNL stuff.
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