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edit: I did think the main guys accent was pretty bad. Well, maybe not bad in the sense that I can point out any specific slips, but I just didn't believe he was actually American. I've never seen Sons of Anarchy, but Google seems to be telling me that people think he does a great job with it. Maybe it was just the way he pronounced certain words. Certainly not a Sam Worthington type of situation, regardless.

Wait. He's a geordie? Sweet.
 
I think Hunnam serviced the role about as well as it was written. His performance definitely gets lost in the charisma and energy exuded by Elba, Perlman, and Day. It's not particularly nuanced, but it beats Worthington's often interchangeable personalities.

I hate his angry face

Which seems to be the face he dons for 60%* of the framing he's in for the final cut of the film.

*This is just an estimation and not intended to be cited as fact.
 
Wanted to add a comment re Mana Ashida (Mori as a child) and her work in this film. Probably the most authentic performance in the entire movie. I really believed she was terrified out of her wits. Won't be the last we'll see of her, I think.
 
That head-clap with the shipping containers (from the first Gipsy Danger battle with Mako) may have set a new standard for VFX money shots. I immediately wanted to hit rewind and see it again in slo-mo, but obviously I could not.
 
holy shit wat?
charlie hunnam is british?

now i understand how people felt when they thought idris elba is an american after watching the wire
edit: not comparing their acting skills, which obviously idris does better
 
That head-clap with the shipping containers (from the first Gipsy Danger battle with Mako) may have set a new standard for VFX money shots. I immediately wanted to hit rewind and see it again in slo-mo, but obviously I could not.

man, the fists were at least 20 times bigger and 100 times heavier than those small containers. what a useless move from gipsy danger.
 
Let me remind you all that both The Matrix and Titanic opened their first week in the neighborhood of 28 million.

there's hope! yay!

oh and about mako, i know del toro said he has never watched evangelion (saw it from /tv/ for what it's worth), but that mako blue highlights and that hairstyle has GOT to be a reference to rei from eva
 
I don't have any problem suspending disbelief for movies like this as long as they stay internally consistent within their own mythology. But here I just didn't know what to make of the Jaegers' durability, because it seemed completely arbitrary. GD gets trashed within the first 10 minutes and then the next time there's a major fight, 2 more Jaegers are absolutely devastated almost instantly, yet GD goes on to take what should be the most severe abuse of all for 10 minutes straight and comes out largely unscathed.
 
The reason for not using nukes.
Well we saw that the category 5 Kaiju got back up with no problems at the end after the nuke.
The category 4 Kaiju seemed to have died but it got cut up quite a bit before hand leaving it more vulnerable.
 
I don't have any problem suspending disbelief for movies like this as long as they stay internally consistent within their own mythology. But here I just didn't know what to make of the Jaegers' durability, because it seemed completely arbitrary. GD gets trashed within the first 10 minutes and then the next time there's a major fight, 2 more Jaegers are absolutely devastated almost instantly, yet GD goes on to take what should be the most severe abuse of all for 10 minutes straight and comes out largely unscathed.

So I guess this is the first movie you've ever seen? I know it seems a bit weird but you get used to it after awhile.
 
Just saw the movie, really enjoyed it. There was some disagreement between me and my friends about the dinosaur bit though. They said the dinosaurs were the first attempt of the kaijus to invade Earth, but the atmosphere killed them. But I thought I heard that the kaijus killed the dinosaurs and the atmosphere wiped them out after.

Really I just want a Pacific Rim prequel where kaiju fight dinosaurs, but I'm inclined to believe their theory over mine.
 
Just saw the movie, really enjoyed it. There was some disagreement between me and my friends about the dinosaur bit though. They said the dinosaurs were the first attempt of the kaijus to invade Earth, but the atmosphere killed them. But I thought I heard that the kaijus killed the dinosaurs and the atmosphere wiped them out after.

Pretty sure you're right as the implication is the kaiju are why the dinosaurs went extinct.
 
The reason for not using nukes.
Well we saw that the category 5 Kaiju got back up with no problems at the end after the nuke.
The category 4 Kaiju seemed to have died but it got cut up quite a bit before hand leaving it more vulnerable.
This logic seems weird. They could have tried it w cat 1s and 2s? And the nukes were way more effective than the robots either way?

It's a hole, I don't really mind it tho.
 
The logical solution would just be to build a thick as fuck concrete/metal dome around the breach. And fill the cavity with radiation or i dunno, lasers or something.

But then we wouldn't have an awesome movie involving giant robots so fuck that
 
If we're talking about accents, the Australians were a bit poor.

The exaggerated British accent of the mathematics guy made my head spin. I haven't heard an English accent that forced since Independence Day.

And I couldn't understand half of what the Aussie day was saying, such was the awfulness of his accent. It's like the non-American's all had foreign accent speech training from Dan Castellaneta.
 
Giant bipedal robots aren't logical. That isn't the point. The point is GIANT FUCKING AWESOME ROBOTS.
This! I don't think giant bipedal robots would be a logical choice in any situation, but this comes with the genre. The whole point of the movie is to have robots!
 
Just came back from watching it on IMAX, and holy moly. Action and adrenaline from beginning to end. What a thrill ride it was :D.
 
She had several lines?

I counted three brief moments of dialogue when I saw it the second time. It was just something that stuck out to me.

She had "No Pulse," the sword reveal/"For my family," and the "I love you" goodbye to Idris.

Hunnam had tons of dialogue while piloting with Mako. He said the names of all the attacks, did all of the yelling, gave the words of encouragement, all of the "Let's do this!"-esque stuff.

This bothered me when I first noticed it but then I attributed it to the differences in their personalities and possibly cultural differences as well. I would have liked to hear more from her though.
 
This logic seems weird. They could have tried it w cat 1s and 2s? And the nukes were way more effective than the robots either way?

It's a hole, I don't really mind it tho.

They did. In the comics, the first one got nuked. They nuked a bunch of the 1s but the problem with nuke is that environmental damage. After half a dozen, you got coastlines that are irradiated.
 
I counted three brief moments of dialogue when I saw it the second time. It was just something that stuck out to me.

She had "No Pulse," the sword reveal/"For my family," and the "I love you" goodbye to Idris.

Hunnam had tons of dialogue while piloting with Mako. He said the names of all the attacks, did all of the yelling, gave the words of encouragement, all of the "Let's do this!"-esque stuff.

This bothered me when I first noticed it but then I attributed it to the differences in their personalities and possibly cultural differences as well. I would have liked to hear more from her though.

Mako appeared to me as a very shy person, but when push come to shove, she was pretty badass.
 
i thought it was really stupid how the film spends upwards of 15-20 minutes introducing and fleshing out the other Jaeger teams and then kills two of them off in 5 minutes.

especially when that russian one looked so bad ass.
 
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Damn, Sydney Shatterdome protecting a whole Quadrant by itself with only two Jagers to do it with too.
 
It is sad that they couldn't even allow for real emotional tenderness between them for that father-daughter moment. Maybe that was part of the script, or maybe just a shortcoming of the writers or the director.

Oh those battle scenes were like sex though. So well displayed. Choreography was ok, but the depiction was so 'realistically' done. Like the suspension of disbelief was reinforced with steel plating. Even recognizing the callbacks to kaiju fights, the rubbersuit shake that monsters get when they're enraged, it was recognizable but still completely translated. It was enough to forgive them for the rest of the movie when they weren't fighting. I was reminded of Dr Who and BBC production, sparse, nothing nonessential or particularly recognizable. They even had a fucking bellows as part of the high machinery in the research lab. They lampshaded the low rent quality of the digs by showing how the world economy had collapsed and the Defense Force budget had been cut to nothing. So that's why their living quarters looked like an abandoned Howard Johnson's motel in the hood. They knew we were there for the Big Damn Robots anyway, and that seems to be where most of the production had gone. But it was fulfilling. Visceral. Engaging. You will believe a robot can kick the shit out of a flying bat monster.

If you havent seen this movie. See it. Take the kids. They too, need to learn about the kaiju menace.
 
The "Australians" (in real life, the son is British and the father is American) are only 14 years apart in age. Unfortunately, they both look their real ages.

Not a huge nitpick or anything, but it was kinda obvious.

Also, Hunnam's American accent really seemed to be falling apart in some of his dialogue during the climax.
 
Anyone post that .gif of Gipsy Danger using its sword for the first time and falling from space? Hands down one of the coolest scenes I've ever scene.
 
Am I the only one who found the fights in this seriously hard to follow? Like, during the water fights everything was just a blur. The fight in downtown Hong Kong had no sense of geography. I honestly found the day time fights in the Transformers a lot better choreographed than the ones in Pacific Rim. The upper atmosphere section was probably my favorite because I could clearly make out what was happening. Really disappointed in Del Toro.
 
Am I the only one who found the fights in this seriously hard to follow? Like, during the water fights everything was just a blur. The fight in downtown Hong Kong had no sense of geography. I honestly found the day time fights in the Transformers a lot better choreographed than the ones in Pacific Rim. The upper atmosphere section was probably my favorite because I could clearly make out what was happening. Really disappointed in Del Toro.

I've seen a few mention it but I didn't have a problem with it. I think he did a good job of framing the action. There were a lot of close ups, panning to reference scale, but he never abuses quick cuts, shaky cam or shit like that, and there are plenty of wide shots to get a sense of where everyone is. The only part where I got a bit confused was when Crimson Typhoon did his waist move. The camera suddenly jumped to a bird's eye view and I had a hard time following how the robot turned around and all that.

Were you really close to the screen? I ask because I had a similar experience with Batman Begins. I was sitting too close and I left the theater thinking I never got a good look at any of the action. Not that the action was great in BB to begin with, but upon re-watching at least it wasn't heavily disorienting.
 
Am I the only one who found the fights in this seriously hard to follow? Like, during the water fights everything was just a blur. The fight in downtown Hong Kong had no sense of geography. I honestly found the day time fights in the Transformers a lot better choreographed than the ones in Pacific Rim. The upper atmosphere section was probably my favorite because I could clearly make out what was happening. Really disappointed in Del Toro.

Pretty much the opposite for me. Underwater I could see having a problem with, but the whole Hong Kong sequence shuts down anything from Transformers. In Transformers during the fight scenes I couldn't tell who were the good guys and who were the bad guys, much less who was who on each respective team. In Pacific Rim there are way less players in the battle, and it's easy to distinguish who is the bad guy obviously (Kaiju look radically different from the Jaegers).
 
I've seen a few mention it but I didn't had a problem with it. I think he did a good job of framing the action. There were a lot of close ups, panning to reference scale, but he never abuses quick cuts, shaky cam or shit like that, and there are plenty of wide shots to get a sense of where everyone is. The only part where I got a bit confused was when Crimson Typhoon did his waist move. The camera suddenly jumped to a bird's eye view and I had a hard time following how the robot turned around and all that.

Were you really close to the screen? I ask because I had a similar experience with Batman Begins. I was sitting too close and I left the theater thinking I never got a good look at any of the action. Not that the action was great in BB to begin with, but upon re-watching at least it wasn't heavily disorienting.

I saw it in IMAX 3D with prime seats in the middle. I'm thinking about going back to see it in 2D to get a better look at the action. I absolutely loved the steady wide shots like when GD sprints towards the Kaiju in the Hong Kong fight, but those were few and far between.
 
There were people when I watched it, it wasn't full but surprisingly a pretty big amount. They were really into the movie, too. Hope they spread the word.
 
By the looks of things:

Cat 2s < Mark-3 < Cat 3s < Mark-4 / Cherno Alpha < Cat 4s < Mark-5 / Gipsy Danger < Cat 5
I mostly agree, with a few exceptions.

Striker Eureka might be equal to the Category 5; it managed to wound Slattern so badly that the Kaiju called for help.

Cherno Alpha was taken out by two Category 4s, while Crimson Typhoon was taken out just by Otachi, so Cherno might have the advantage there.
 
After rewatching(in IMAX this time) and thinking more about it
I think I will say this is the most fun movie I have ever seen.
I have similar thoughts. I critiqued less in the second viewing. Going in the first time with such hype made me really critical of anything that didn't live up to it. Typical response. The second time around I was really able to just sit back and watch. Maybe it was my focus on the huge screen and the 3D (which was fantastic and really added to the film), but I enjoyed the whole ride more. PR still has flaws, but in the right state of mind you completely let those goes.

The only issue that lingers is my desire for more action out of Cherno and Crimson. You get that feeling the second they start getting their asses kicked. I really disliked their treatment after Pentacost's little shpele to Beckett about the two mechs. He goes on and on about how awesome they are, we get amazing hero shots of them, and then they get their asses kicked. Hardly a satisfying outcome, but to have my only real complaint be a desire for more action after that jampacked film? I'll take that any day.
 
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