Pacific Rim |OT| Apocalypse Never

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I gotta say, the "I hope it bombs" mentality is one of the most dickish things ever. It's fine if you don't like, appreciate or enjoy something, but to hope that it gets taken away from those who do like, appreciate and enjoy it shows a blatant disregard for the opinions and tastes of others.

I mean, c'mon.

yeah, i hate it when they said, "i hope it bombs, just to see GAF implode" ugh!

this is why we cant have nice things
 
Maybe if that game were a unique niche title released to massive praise that still sold like shit, like Psychonauts. I'm trying to wrap my head around your perspective but I can't. GDT made the movie he wanted to make, and the movie people wanted him to make.

Real-talk: what's the last good movie you've seen?

And seek help about that urge to hurt people - movies shouldn't make you feel that way, no matter how much you hated them.

Ookami kodomo no ame to yuki

Live action would be Cloud Atlas.

Being niche isn't enough. My expectations from GDT come from Pan's Labyrinth, I figured he could pull off a great film with the money and premise, but it was a lazy popcorn flick you watch because there is almost literally nothing better or convenient at the time. I've contributed to the numbers this film has pulled in, which is unfortunate because I feel it doesn't deserve my money.

Of course I don't mean it literally, but I'm not particularly happy with the guy when he has such a budget to rock with and cool genres to explore, yet this is the end product. It does make me want to slap him.
 
I got a chance to see this movie today with a friend. We both really enjoyed it. Maybe not the greatest movie of all time, but it's a lot of fun.

When I was younger I was a very big Godzilla fan (so much so that I went to Godzilla conventions in Chicago several times) and this movie did scratch the new giant monster movie itch that's I've had for some time. Hopefully the American Godzilla movie next year is good as well.
 
Ookami kodomo no ame to yuki

Live action would be Cloud Atlas.

Being niche isn't enough. My expectations from GDT come from Pan's Labyrinth, I figured he could pull off a great film with the money and premise, but it was a lazy popcorn flick you watch because there is almost literally nothing better or convenient at the time. I've contributed to the numbers this film has pulled in, which is unfortunate because I feel it doesn't deserve my money.

Of course I don't mean it literally, but I'm not particularly happy with the guy when he has such a budget to rock with and cool genres to explore, yet this is the end product. It does make me want to slap him.

Well, regardless of your feelings, thanks for supporting the movie.
 
When I think of the money they blew on this movie and what could have been achieved,it makes me want to hurt people, heck I feel dirty having paid to see it. I want it to bomb because I cared, and I now feel nothing of value will be lost. It's kind of like some shit-tastic game selling 20 million copies, though a bit different.

But a lot of people liked it, rewatched it even. Some already went and bought the figures. And you think that lot of money was wasted because you don' like itt?
 
Not bad at all for a summer blockbuster, definitely a league above say a spiderman or transformers movie. Wouldn't have watched if not for Rinko, she was great as always!

Would like a followup.
 
It wasn't the ultimate kaiju movie, but it's still a very good one that comes close to ultimate in the second half. The Hong Kong and
underwater
action scenes were outstanding and will satisfy any Godzilla or mecha fan.

I think the potential for an expanded universe a la Star Wars is enormous, and even if they can't afford a prequel, there must be some novel or comic or anime to fill the huge gap between the origin and the film. I didn't know it would occur in media res to the extreme it did. You have a scene (the first fight where
Rally's brother is killed
) that takes place quite a while after the first jaegers are made, and THEN flash forward another five years and explain all this cool shit that took place in the middle! It was unbelievable how out of place this movie felt - it's like watching Return of the Jedi as your first Star Wars movie. This IS the universe's ROTJ - the origin story is like ANH, the hopeless period where the Americas are getting demolished is like ESB, and Pacific Rim is the finale with a happy ending. I love this universe and I want at least one more property to be created to flesh it out.

Lastly, some spoilery nitpicks.
The implication kaijus destroyed the dinosaurs was unnecessary, the idea a kaiju literally hunting down Newton was far-fetched, and the Newton's cradle was one of the dumbest scenes in history.
Otherwise, my biggest problem with the movie was the extremely long sequence with Raleigh and Mako in Hong Kong, nearly 40 minutes without any kaiju or jaeger. It was bad pacing and the only time I felt emotional for them was the
dream scene with the crab kaiju, a.k.a. the best kaiju in the movie
. They could've replaced the martial arts scene (why do you need to know martial arts to fight monsters in a hulking robot that boxes anyway?!) with another kaiju battle and then the pacing would be good.

I give it a 4 out of 5. I liked Man of Steel a little better, and I want somebody to write a prequel novel!
 
The implication kaijus destroyed the dinosaurs was unnecessary, the idea a kaiju literally hunting down Newton was far-fetched, and the Newton's cradle was one of the dumbest scenes in history.

Wasn't the implication that the kaiju
WERE the dinosaurs?
 
The implication kaijus destroyed the dinosaurs was unnecessary, the idea a kaiju literally hunting down Newton was far-fetched, and the Newton's cradle was one of the dumbest scenes in history.
It's kinda unknown what the hell Newt was talking about beyond the Kaiju just coming during the Mesozoic; all we know is that they came and didn't colonize because the atmosphere was not right.
 
It's kinda unknown what the hell Newt was talking about beyond the Kaiju just coming during the Mesozoic; all we know is that they came and didn't colonize because the atmosphere was not right.

I think the kaiju may have been some of the giant sea creatures of the time. I also have suspicions that may have been a set up for a Godzilla crossover. He was the one sent during the time of the dinosaurs and has grown dormant since then, just getting bigger.
 
I don't watch many movies these days, maybe 4-6 live action movies per year (if even that) as a guesstimate, mostly just animu.

It had cool mechs and monsters, that does not excuse the characters, the dialogue, the acting, the pacing. Even I can derive enjoyment from the movie at times, but if I were to go further and say it's worth watching, worth paying to see, or even 'good' as a total package, I would be dishonest.

When I think of the money they blew on this movie and what could have been achieved,it makes me want to hurt people,
Yup.

The premise for the movie was great and it had so much potential. I felt strangely satisfied seeing monster aliens getting the crap beaten out of them by robots.
But other than that, the rest of the movie was filler material with forgettable (sometimes even annoying) characters and unoriginal cliches. Some of the pilot matchups aren't very convincing either.
 
just got back from the theater.

love it.

the movie was honest with itself and I enjoyed for that. No dicking around, it was as advertised

2D bitches!!!! got to enjoy the details without any stupid ass 3D glasses
 
I don't watch many movies these days, maybe 4-6 live action movies per year (if even that) as a guesstimate, mostly just animu.

It had cool mechs and monsters, that does not excuse the characters, the dialogue, the acting, the pacing. Even I can derive enjoyment from the movie at times, but if I were to go further and say it's worth watching, worth paying to see, or even 'good' as a total package, I would be dishonest.

When I think of the money they blew on this movie and what could have been achieved,it makes me want to hurt people, heck I feel dirty having paid to see it. I want it to bomb because I cared, and I now feel nothing of value will be lost. It's kind of like some shit-tastic game selling 20 million copies, though a bit different.

i dont think the money and world was wasted, there is only so much you can do with a 2 hour film. though i see your point i just cant stop loving this movie even the cliche characters. what this movie needs is another fucking sequel!


just got back from the theater.

love it.

the movie was honest with itself and I enjoyed for that. No dicking around, it was as advertised

2D bitches!!!! got to enjoy the details without any stupid ass 3D glasses

i thought the 3d was actually really good, i have seen it twice with 3d and twice in 2d and i actually preferred the 3d version.


just went today for my 4th bomb run with the co-workers, they liked it but pretty much round it down to that it was missing "something" that being said i cant get enough i need to watch this movie in d-box!
 
This is one of those movies that has no charm to make the cheese tolerable.

Outside of some action moments, this movie is awful.

Not quite ROTF awful, but the Bay's other films are far more tolerable.
 
Aside from the forced "love" shit that a lot of movies try to add for no reason whatsoever and the HORRIBLE acting/dialogue of Mako, the movie was goddamn awesome!
 
This is one of those movies that has no charm to make the cheese tolerable.

Outside of some action moments, this movie is awful.

Not quite ROTF awful, but the Bay's other films are far more tolerable.

this is just bad, the movie literally oozes with charm wtf are you even comparing this to other michael bay movies? look i like other michael bay movies and yes you are entitled to your opinion but i have every right to refute that lol.
 
Aside from the forced "love" shit that a lot of movies try to add for no reason whatsoever and the HORRIBLE acting/dialogue of Mako, the movie was goddamn awesome!

What "love" shit?

They specifically avoided it in this film.
My wife actually said after the film she was relieved that they didn't do that.
 
Thought it was just okay. The mechs and monsters and the attention to detail they had was amazing, but outside them, none of the characters apart from the commander clicked with me. I mean, Raleigh and Mako's actors just didn't do much for me even though I think they were given quite a lot to work with. They did great with their fight scenes though!
 
raleigh and mako are fine. i wasn't expecting great performances out of them, especially hunnam. they were...serviceable. idris and charlie day were cool.

the real travesties are the "aussies" and burn gorman. holy shit. they belong in the transformers franchise. gorman reminded me of that shitty seth mcfarlane bot in hellboy 2 that was trying so hard to be comic relief. gdt doesn't get humor....

i think the scene that won me over to this film though was the first time raleigh is suiting up with his brother. and that theme starts and then you just see this huge ass mech. i was sold.
 
Saw this movie twice already in IMAX 3D and will be seeing it in another two weeks for a third time with my dad.

I absolutely love every second of it.
 
Would have been nice if "the whole point of the movie" took up more than 5% of the total runtime though, wouldn't it?

There was more than enough "giant robots beating up monsters" in Pacific Rim. Any more and it would've gotten into Man of Steel "mind numbing destruction" territory.
 
I don't watch many movies these days, maybe 4-6 live action movies per year (if even that) as a guesstimate, mostly just animu.

It had cool mechs and monsters, that does not excuse the characters, the dialogue, the acting, the pacing. Even I can derive enjoyment from the movie at times, but if I were to go further and say it's worth watching, worth paying to see, or even 'good' as a total package, I would be dishonest.

When I think of the money they blew on this movie and what could have been achieved,it makes me want to hurt people, heck I feel dirty having paid to see it. I want it to bomb because I cared, and I now feel nothing of value will be lost. It's kind of like some shit-tastic game selling 20 million copies, though a bit different.

This is some Hero of the Web shit, right here.
 
There was more than enough "giant robots beating up monsters" in Pacific Rim. Any more and it would've gotten into Man of Steel "mind numbing destruction" territory.

There were two real fights, squashed so tightly together that they felt like one - at the end of the second act. It was pretty disappointing.
 
I just saw Pacific Rim and I thought 'That's it?' Everyone on the Internet said it was something great, a geeky-yet-deep-movie and I ended up being bored and thinking of how everything was wrong or not believable/cliché in every scene.

The first half of the movie (where you get to know the story and the characters) was sort of decent (nothing memorable but it could have been worse) and if the whole movie was like that I would have liked it better but then it evolved into non-stop fighting, with piercing lights and bombastic sound effects everywhere. I couldn't care less how much money you can throw at CGI - it reminded me more of a video game than a film and I felt like I had been lied to.

I miss the pre-Avatar James Cameron.
 
I just saw Pacific Rim and I thought 'That's it?' Everyone on the Internet said it was something great, a geeky-yet-deep-movie and I ended up being bored and thinking of how everything was wrong or not believable in every scene.

The first half of the movie (where you get to know the story and the characters) was sort of decent (nothing memorable but it could have been worse) and if the whole movie was like that I would have liked it better but then it evolved into non-stop fighting, with piercing lights and bombastic sound effects everywhere. I couldn't care less how much money you can throw at CGI - it reminded me more of a video game than a film and I felt like I had been lied to.

I miss the pre-Avatar James Cameron.

No one said it was "deep". You ruined the movie for yourself, expecting it to be something it never advertised itself to be.
 
No one said it was "deep". You ruined the movie for yourself, expecting it to be something it never advertised itself to be.

That's the problem. It failed at what it set out to be! Spectacularly I might add. People calling this live action Evangelion need to rewatch the series.
 
To those who still follow the box office on it it dropped 68% from last Friday and looks to finish 7th place for the weekend.
 
People calling this live action Evangelion need to rewatch the series.

People saying it failed to be a cheesy and lighthearted homage to monster and robot movies with colorful visuals and great SFX need to rewatch the movie as well, because it never intended to be anything else.
 
To those who still follow the box office on it it dropped 68% from last Friday and looks to finish 7th place for the weekend.

Well shit.

But everyone really needs to see it in (real) IMAX. I saw it again in a regular theater last night. No comparison to the awesome sound quality and picture experience.
 
I just saw Pacific Rim and I thought 'That's it?' Everyone on the Internet said it was something great, a geeky-yet-deep-movie
1/10

Kids take note: you can't be this obvious so early in your post.

People calling this live action Evangelion need to rewatch the series.
On the contrary, they need to expand their horizons and watch another giant robot show. People who are calling it a live action Evangelion are making it clear that Evangelion was their first (and probably only) giant robot show.
 
Yeah, it was never trying to be deep, nor did it ever try to come across as deep in trailers. It didn't have a love story either. The parallels to Evangelion are mostly about how the robots are being controlled, with the mind, and synching up certain brain waves or whatever. It was never going to be a psychological deconstruction of Kaiju tropes and anyone who told you so was wrong or tried to interpret stuff that wasn't there.
 
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