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yeah like 3 decades before Evangelion ever came out
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yeah like 3 decades before Evangelion ever came out
How in the hell is the ending similar to Gunbuster?????
Zoramon089
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They have to deliver a bomb to the heart of the monsters den. Something goes wrong and they can't deliver their actual payload. Oh, turns out the core of the robot can be used as a bomb.
I think there is an argument to be made here. Del Toro probably would have made a better crafted movie if it were just a smaller scale tragedy about the giant tick collectors doing their job while the world ends.
Shouta
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Also the periodic attacks from the kaiju that escalated into more frequent ones is very similar to how Eva set their general episode/plot flow.
Just saw it, amazing.
Fucking Cherno and Typhoon going down, FEELS
DAT MUSIC.
I don't know why but the jaeger/pilot's deaths, particularly Cherno's, hit me kinda hard compared to most movie characters' deaths. I think it has something to do with the combination of the typical death-of-heroes-moment emotions, their short screen time, and the fact that it shattered the sense of invincibility and safety that's often associated (at for me) with being the pilot of a mecha.
It was all strangely touching, I can't put my finger on why.
BlueScrote
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Saw it in Imax today, and I agree. The jaeger destruction and pilot deaths have a lot of gravity. From Yancy being ripped out of the cockpit in the beginning to the Cherno cockpit they did a really good job tying the personal nature of the cockpit with the large scale action going on.
I do wish they had more action shots of Cherno/Crimson Typhoon fighting before the timeline of the movie (maybe action shots leading up to the 5 year later transition), since those two Jaegers were much more visually interesting than Striker/Gipsy IMO.
Like that small "news" style moment were we saw Striker protecting Sydney from that kaiju that broke the wall, to me was one of the very best moments and wish we saw more stuff like that, but less in the news style and actual combat ( even news style would have been awesome)
Oh, and for the sake of scale, I do wish we had more " pedestrian hand-cams" camera shots, like someone was recording the fights live, so we get to see the fights in the eye of the human who is watching it happen.
Just a little bit here and there I mean.
For me it was when they lamented on Crimson Typhoon's defeat, "Typhoon is down, let's get those bastards!"
From there, they were also fighting for Typhoon's name and the audience naturally projects themselves onto Cherno Alpha, as you're in the same mindset as the Russian pilots - equaling wanting some vengeance/justice as they do!
Lamel
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I think I'm gonna cry.
kingtuck12
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WAR recon zero
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Independence Day with Mechs and Monsters
AWESOME
AWESOME
Lamel
Banned
layzie1989
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The analog versus digital line always made me laugh because I thought it made no sense, but I saw the movie with some of my engineer friends today and when I brought it up they said it made perfect sense, so take that for what it's worth.
There are some reaching theories on how this is similar to Eva, but this one is quite right.
Still not feeling any Eva though. Unless you really want it to be.
I am now confused as hell. Doesn't Gipsy Danger have a computer?
A better explanation would have been that the Shatterdome was shielded from the EMP.
I thought the character fleshed out the world. One of the nice things about this film is that it establishes a large world, yet we only see a tiny part of it.
I didn't really like the scientist and Chau subplot (I would have preferred seeing more of the pilots), but I can appreciate why they made it.
There is a dedication to various people involved in making giant monster and giant robot fiction including Ray Harryhausen (Jason and the Argonauts) and Ishiro Honda (Godzilla).
Honestly think some people here haven't seen a Godzilla movie before. I keep reading posts to how this movie copies dumb anime like Evangelion.
Personally I loved the action in this movie. I grew up with ultra man and Godzilla type of shows and movies. The acting was ok outside of Idris Elba and Ron Pearlman who both made the movie awesome. I wish the movie had different main characters. The annoying Ausie was better than the main guy whose name I forgot. And the younger Japanese girl in the flash backs was a better actor than that older version.
Shouta
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It's a Giant Robo reference so if you've seen that classic anime OVA, it makes a bit more sense.
Basically, the idea is that all of the other Jaegers used a power source that was vulnerable to being disabled by an EMP but the Gipsy Danger used a nuclear engine making it less vulnerable to being disabled like that. Doesn't quite make as much sense because an EMP would disable the computer that controls the nuclear engine at least for awhile but eh.
Black Door
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Murrica
Yes! Immediately thought of Giant Robo during that scene
I really enjoyed the reference, but I can understand why many were somewhat annoyed at it due to not making much sense.oh shit really? i heard del toro cut about an hour's worth of footage
gonna be awesome~
any news on earnings? last i heard even in international market it's doing badly? ; ;
Nomad Blue
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Saw this yesterday, and it was, disappointingly, nowhere near as good as I was hoping it would be (and I didn't set my hopes particularly high). I just had too many issues with it.
Dialogue was awful. I was expecting a lot of cheese, but it went above and beyond. Thought the Aussie accents were awful, sounded South African most of the time(could be from Perth I guess...). Also, why was the wall positioned where it was in Sydney, it made no sense? The two scientists were reminiscent of the twins in Transformers, which is never a good thing. With all the advanced tech, could they not have put cameras on the Jaegers to watch what was going on, or even have a satellite feed? At least there were no jokes about Jaegerbombs.
And where was the Kiwi Jaeger (with full body moko)?!!
Dialogue was awful. I was expecting a lot of cheese, but it went above and beyond. Thought the Aussie accents were awful, sounded South African most of the time(could be from Perth I guess...). Also, why was the wall positioned where it was in Sydney, it made no sense? The two scientists were reminiscent of the twins in Transformers, which is never a good thing. With all the advanced tech, could they not have put cameras on the Jaegers to watch what was going on, or even have a satellite feed? At least there were no jokes about Jaegerbombs.
And where was the Kiwi Jaeger (with full body moko)?!!
WAR recon zero
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The part where Gipsy uses a fucking boat as a staff/sword was the pinnacle.
See You Next Wednesday
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The more I think about it, the more the movie is similar to the 1998 Godzilla movie, with just a lot better fights.
Ron Perlman, Charlie Day & scientist with the cane character could easily been in '98 Zilla with no alteration.
Totally, which is why i liked the scientists and Ron Pearlman.
Well, last week it did 53 million internationally, and this week it did ~57. I guess it opened in some new locations, and it will still be a few weeks until it opens everywhere. There are a couple of potentially big ones like Japan and China where it hasn't opened, so we won't know final numbers until a couple months from now.
UnluckyKate
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It doesn't help that their death are pretty one sided. Cherno being helplessy crushed down and their pilot drowning really hit me hard. Seeing struggling underwater before getting crushed reallly hit me hard. Same for Typhoon, the wide shot of the cockpit from the inside getting crushed by the Kaiju really perfectly capture the feeling of desperation from pilot's point of view. Stuck in a giant metal box... Fuck
I agree that the deaths of the Jaegers were sad but I liked how they also added a sort of horror aspect to the movie. Watching Hunnam's character's brother attempt to give him orders only to get ripped straight out of the Jaeger was a pretty shocking thing to see at the start and then imaging how the pilots of Cherno Alpha must have felt in their final moments is pretty freaky.
I can't imagine the Typhoon bit doing the movie any favors in China.So, how's Pacific Rim holding up finance-wise?
Surely this will explode in Japan and China?
Lamel
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This is my biggest gripe with the movie, at least give them some action and scenes of ass kicking. Would have made their deaths have an even stronger emotional toll.
A lot of movies and shows do this, completely disregard the secondary characters. Yes its fine to kill them off, but with a bit more dignity.
But they were the only robot with three spinning blades. THREE SPINNING BLADES.
Their nuclear reactor is probably heavily shielded since the pilots aren't getting those radiation nosebleeds. That would also protect the reactor from the EMP. Since the reactor would keep running, they could easily restart the rest of their systems. While the power source of the Australian mech was just dead. So it made sense. It was just presented poorly.
I'll have to take your word for it. That fight scene was so brief and dark I couldn't see shit.
XiaNaphryz
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If you couldn't see the blades, your theater had a really crappy setup.
It wasn't great to be sure. I heard the blades and kind of but not really saw them.
DonMigs85
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We could probably achieve a lot even now with enough money and dedication.
Problem is greedy corporate types and corrupt governments.
Lamel
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I honestly think the main hurdle for us would be the neural handshake.
Damn that sucks, the blades were crystal clear.
Also, FUCK LEATHERBACK.
Yeaaaaah that too...
Lamel
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Deified Data
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That final scene with Gipsy Christ-like against the horizon before it nukes...so beautiful. Ties with the Otachi stratosphere scene for my favorite scene in the movie.
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