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Pacific Rim |OT| Apocalypse Never

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Reading the novelization. The brief documents between each chapter answer a lot of questions people had about the movie.
 
Saw it again on IMAX 3D. That opening 15 mins is fucking God tier.

The middle really drags but its all gold from hong kong fight and on.
 
Back again. And I've made the hard decision to finally admit that THIS MOVIE IS AWESOME AS FUCK

spoilers incoming
DAT SHIP AS A SWORD, DAT SWORD, HNNNNG
 
Could you give some examples?

- itemized list of upgrades to Gipsy Danger after the Alaska fight. Sword was added, which is why it wasn't used earlier

- More detailed account of the in initial tactics to fight the kaiju. The strategy was mostly "Nukes!" until the attacks became frequent. They also tried other tactics like barriers before resorting to Jaegers

- Location of the rift is south of Guam

- Reason for the martial arts combat is because "shared experience" is supposed to be the foundation of drift-compatible pilots.

Nothing earth-shattering, just small flourishes that emphasize points made in the movie. I think the movie explained just enough to make the plot work, but not a lick more. Part of why I think graphic novel/cartoon series should be the next step for this series before a second movie.
 
Went in with only one expectation: to see giant robots beat the shit out of giant monsters. Boy, did it deliver in droves. I loved it. No pretentiousness, no bullshit, just 90 minutes (or more, I didn't keep track) of pure monster smashing.

My friend was a bit disappointed, saying he expected more in the monster department. I'm pretty happy with what we got, though.

The only downside was that, for some reason, my theater showcased the entire thing with black bars on the side.

I would assume that's because it was filmed in 16:9, so any moviescreen bigger than that (basically all of them) would present it pillarboxed.
 
Just saw it. Before the movie, they had a bunch of clips.

Voltron (this is when I entered), Evangelion, Red Baron, Rock'Em Sock'Em Robots (black & white commercial) and the finishing clip was Power Rangers if I was not mistaken.

Did other people see them or was it just a treat by the theater? It was a premium theater and I've never really been to one before so that might have been it.
 
So I loved this movie. Very rarely do I feel compelled to share my thoughts about a movie, but I actually posted on Facebook about this one. May actually be the first time ever. My two second review:

I'm pretty sure if you took pure fun, slapped it on some film, and ran it at 24 frames per second you would get Pacific Rim. It's pretty clear the way that movie got made was two guys were sitting around and said "Let's throw together Transformers, Godzilla, Independence Day, Top Gun, Avatar, and Jurassic Park and make it one movie." Then they called up Guillermo Del Toro and asked "Hey can you make this look cool?" To which he responded, "Of course, but let's get Idris Elba just to make sure."
 
Just saw it. Before the movie, they had a bunch of clips.

Voltron (this is when I entered), Evangelion, Red Baron, Rock'Em Sock'Em Robots (black & white commercial) and the finishing clip was Power Rangers if I was not mistaken.

Did other people see them or was it just a treat by the theater? It was a premium theater and I've never really been to one before so that might have been it.
I wish the theater I went to had done something like that. What theater chain was it? This is the first that I've heard of of that.
 
Finally got around to watching this movie.

It was certainly a fun ride, but I had to keep consciously turning my brain off.

The physics and engineering of this movie are simply impossible.

A minor gripe when the reward is giant robots beating up giant monsters, but I can't help it.

decades of time from the first kaiju and a predictable pattern for their arrival (meaning the rift, portal thing was accessible safely) and nobody tried putting kaiju biomass through the portal. Literally millions of scientists over decades and nobody thought of this?

oh and I know they attempt to explain why giant robots, but it wouldn't be even on my top ten of possible solutions to the problem.
I would have gone with those pulse gun thingies (which seemed super effective), surrounding the rift, and shooting the blazes out of them as they leave. Better yet, by the time the movie takes place there is a ton of Kaiju bits on earth, biological warfare would probably do the trick. Or maybe UAV's that land little drills that bore into the brain through the eye socket, which should have a nerve that leads directly to the brain, and on the drill a tactical nuke.

But none of these things would have led to a better movie.
 
decades of time from the first kaiju and a predictable pattern for their arrival (meaning the rift, portal thing was accessible safely) and nobody tried putting kaiju biomass through the portal. Literally millions of scientists over decades and nobody thought of this?

Actually, it was sometime a little over one decade. And I don't see why they would. I wouldn't have thought of it, especially since they just assumed that the Kaiju were animals rather than biological weapons and the rift was a natural formation rather than an artificially produced portal. That someone programed it only to respond to kaiju DNA would be a wild guess at best, and the people in charge were pretty conservative in their decision making over the kaiju (remember how they disregarded Newt when he suggested to drift with a kaiju brain?) I guess with the times being what they are, everyone was very nervous about taking risks on what they saw as wild goose chases.


oh and I know they attempt to explain why giant robots, but it wouldn't be even on my top ten of possible solutions to the problem.
I would have gone with those pulse gun thingies (which seemed super effective), surrounding the rift, and shooting the blazes out of them as they leave.

Super effective?
They have to empty clips into the damn things just to scratch through the surface before they finally slow the beasts down (see Knifehead and Leatherback). And those things take a while to charge up, and the Kaiju are ridiculously fast underwater, as evidenced by the final battle. They work, but only when the Jaegers already have the kaiju headlocked and fire their entire clip point blank.


Better yet, by the time the movie takes place there is a ton of Kaiju bits on earth, biological warfare would probably do the trick. Or maybe UAV's that land little drills that bore into the brain through the eye socket, which should have a nerve that leads directly to the brain, and on the drill a tactical nuke.

They presumably tried all that, and by all indications it hasn't worked.
Kaiju have biology that still confounds scientist who have studied it for over a decade. The eye thing might work (though, again, the biology on these things is really wierd, so... even that isn't a sure thing), but nuking every time one comes through is a bad, bad idea for hopefully obvious reasons and anything less doesn't hurt them very much. The most you could hope for is to blind them. Remember that in the final battle with the Catergory 5, Striker Eureka brought the strongest nuclear warhead known to man, detonated it at point blank range in front of the kaiju, and it still got up to fight. Even with a vulnerable spot, you need some heavy payload to be effective.

One last thing:
The eye tactic might work if only that it blinds them (though then you have a blind rampaging Kaiju, and I imagine that's only marginally better), but part of the purpose of the Jaegers is to stop the kaiju before they make landing in the city. Before hte jaegers, the kaiju only came out of the water when they hit a city. A Kaiju that hits land is a mission that already partially failed. But with the eye tactic, they would have to be above water for that to work reliably, which means they're already in the city. To make that work, they would have to accept lots of collateral damage.

One other last thing:
Don't forget about Kaiju blue. Part of the reason the Jaegers pummel them to death is that they don't want the Kaiju to bleed too much if it can be helped, since it's basically toxic waste. Eye drilling sounds messy.

Yet another last thing:
Though the humans don't know this, assuming what your suggesting did work, we know it would only work for so long. The Kaiju makers, given that they have a hivemind, would realize whats going on and just make a kaiju that operates on sonar or some other sense and then the jets will be useless. Jaegers, in comparison, are very adaptable.

Finally got around to watching this movie.

It was certainly a fun ride, but I had to keep consciously turning my brain off.

The physics and engineering of this movie are simply impossible.

Yeah, don't get me wrong. This movie tries it's damndest to ground itself as much as it can, succeeding to an extent, but I have similar, if not identical, gripes about certain plot points. But it has a lot of heart, more than most movies I can name, and it deserves to succeed for that alone in my eyes.
 
I still don't get how
they can determine anything from the Kaiju drifst. They looked like a garbled mess.

So did the drift
between humans, from what we've seen. Just flashes of random memories until someone decides to "follow the rabbit". Newt and the other guy presumably followed the rabbit, it just happened off screen and we saw the garbled mess just to get an idea of what they were looking at without going into the whole thing.

Edit: Actually, first time through,
all he did see was the garbled mess, since the brain was damaged and he was doing it alone. His guesses about the masters happened to be right, but they were guesses. He made a point that it was what he 'thinks' they are, not knows. It's the second drift with the kaiju we didn't see completely that had the full knowledge intact and confirmed everything
 
A bit offtopic but here's a couple images of the full-scale Patlabor models they're using for the live action Patlabor movie:




Japan is about to show Del Toro how to make a good Mecha movie! Heh.
 
Finally saw it today. Enjoyed it a lot.

It was basically a live action adaptation of a super robot anime, and I was okay with that.
 
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So did the drift
between humans, from what we've seen. Just flashes of random memories until someone decides to "follow the rabbit". Newt and the other guy presumably followed the rabbit, it just happened off screen and we saw the garbled mess just to get an idea of what they were looking at without going into the whole thing.

Edit: Actually, first time through,
all he did see was the garbled mess, since the brain was damaged and he was doing it alone. His guesses about the masters happened to be right, but they were guesses. He made a point that it was what he 'thinks' they are, not knows. It's the second drift with the kaiju we didn't see completely that had the full knowledge intact and confirmed everything

imo not really, in my second viewing its easier to see what happens during the drift.
in the first drify you can see that the creatures are being built, you see their bodies on a sort of operating table if you will, a few sec later you see the creatures (the small ones you see at the end where he nukes gypsy danger) looking at the kajiu's, they are hanging in a sort of prison/stasis thing. You can see that the small creatures are sort of approving which one they will take (here is a picture, very bad quality but you can see the small ones on the right and the big ones on the left, also seconds before this shot you see them on an op table
 
Nothing earth-shattering, just small flourishes that emphasize points made in the movie. I think the movie explained just enough to make the plot work, but not a lick more. Part of why I think graphic novel/cartoon series should be the next step for this series before a second movie.

Most of those points are pretty clear when you watch the movie though. I might pick up the book as well.


Also - to the people with the heavy spoiler tags: we have a dedicated spoiler thread here! Come in for a neural handshake.
 
Don't pick up the book if you expect any sort of entertainment, or a long read, nice art, good writing - unless you're entertained by horrendous blandness.
 
Typical Japan. Some countries would use CGI, Japan just builds a mecha.
Reminds me how they were bragging about the life sized GINO foot and then it was just a small part of it that was practical and the rest CG. Meanwhile Japan already built a full 1:1 foot 14 years earlier for Godzilla 84.
 
Does anyone have an idea when the Blu-ray will drop?

I found out that World War Z releases in little over a month, and that had the same theatre release window as Pacific Rim.

It would be awesome it this was out in a month or two.

I keep hearing October, but maybe that's just a placeholder.
 
Most of those points are pretty clear when you watch the movie though. I might pick up the book as well.


Also - to the people with the heavy spoiler tags: we have a dedicated spoiler thread here! Come in for a neural handshake.

thanks I'll probably not post my critiques again there, because they are rather minor in the grand scheme of things.

Yeah, don't get me wrong. This movie tries it's damndest to ground itself as much as it can, succeeding to an extent, but I have similar, if not identical, gripes about certain plot points. But it has a lot of heart, more than most movies I can name, and it deserves to succeed for that alone in my eyes.


I agree the world building was quite good, and is very important in making a good sci fi movie. I liked that they didn't try to explain all the science, because bad fake movie science almost always makes me cringe. Ultimately my post was a confession of my own weakness; focusing on smile gripes with the hard science that keeps things like this from actually happening, instead of enjoying this well realized world where they do.
 
FUCK. My Crimson Typhoon figure's lower leg pivots weakened so now he can't stand straight up. Not to mention when I got it, his anterior left arm easily pops off. Should I return it? I bought it from here and it arrived 5 days ago.
 
Saw it again in (legit) IMAX.

God the first shot of the kaiju tearing up the Golden State bridge, probably my favorite shot of the film. The scale of the beast is just jaw-dropping.

Loved how GDT didn't waste time to show the kaiju off.
 
Saw it again in (legit) IMAX.

God the first shot of the kaiju tearing up the Golden State bridge, probably my favorite shot of the film. The scale of the beast is just jaw-dropping.

Loved how GDT didn't waste time to show the kaiju off.

The Golden Gate Bridge shot really made me glad I went for the IMAX 3D. I almost decided not to see it when I saw it was only available in 3D.
 
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