Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - Beta Phase 3 Impression: Phase 4 August

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I have two questions on dungeons that I can't seem to pin down...

I've heard someone talk about "dungeon tokens", which I can recollect hearing about before. Does anyone know where Yoshi-P talked about this, if he did?

Ratings/grades have been datamined (C to A to AAA to S to SSS), but this is the first time I've heard of this. Has there been any word of this being applied to dungeons or whatever else?

Also I wouldn't mind if someone else gave a look over my notes when I done. It would have to be someone very up to date on all details of the game (being a proficient proof-reader wouldn't hurt either).


In ARR, songs work more like auras you switch on. You can only have one on at a time.
 
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but the thread's perhaps too large and varied to reliably search. How is the early access shit going to work? Are they actually billing and shipping out the package prior to official service launch, or just emailing codes? Are other OG release buyers just "fake" preordering off websites with the intention of canceling once they send codes?
 
RawrDuy said:
I'm pretty interested in the game after looking through some videos. If I download the beta client now, would I need to re-download the game when it releases? I'm really excited to try out the beta in the upcoming weeks.
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If you download the beta client now you'd be getting phase 3 beta client which is useless because there is no beta testing going on right now.

If you wait for the open beta client (availability unknown, likely announced in 4 days in next live letter) you'd be getting the release version client sans patches.

_Keiichi_ said:
Bards are kinda meh, honestly. Most songs feel quite useless.
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I know, right, they feel so useless in all that level 50 beta content that was designed around needing job skills to beat, right?

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I'm sure they will be useful in level 40+ content designed with them in mind. Nothing in beta was designed with jobs as the focus because you can't even unlock them until 30 and they aren't really that great until you've gotten a few more skills for them (40+).

Bard songs in ARR are less potent than they were in 1.x but that's OK... there is more strategery and positioning importance in playing bard now, not the "play it and forget it" mechanics from ARR.

Riposte said:
Also I wouldn't mind if someone else gave a look over my notes when I done. It would have to be someone very up to date on all details of the game (being a proficient proof-reader wouldn't hurt either).
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I'll give it a proofread if you want.

dino1980 said:
Hmm ok. Want to be a support character like bards in FFXI. Is there another class/jobb that supports the team with higher dps, TP generation, MP and so on?
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No, that's what bard does.

There are no pure support classes in ARR.
 
Riposte said:
I have two questions on dungeons that I can't seem to pin down...

I've heard someone talk about "dungeon tokens", which I can recollect hearing about before. Does anyone know where Yoshi-P talked about this, if he did?

Ratings/grades have been datamined (C to A to AAA to S to SSS), but this is the first time I've heard of this. Has there been any word of this being applied to dungeons or whatever else?
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He has talked about the dungeon tokens in letters from the producer and maybe interviews, sorry can't give you an exact link.

These ratings are something new and I would say unexpected, since he had never mentioned such a system.


Edit: sorry I lied, a quick google provided me with a good link:

Q. Please explain the Dungeon Token system.
A. These tokens will be like a currency that can be redeemed for items, there are many types of tokens, and each type of content has its own type of token, ranked in a hierarchy. Maybe you fight a Primal and get a weapon, take that to the hyper fight, get a better token for a better fight, and so on, so forth. Again, it is only those items that you can get in that certain battle that you will receive tokens for. The more token types you have, the more item lists that will be available to you.
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In 1.0 we already had tokens from Primal fights, and you could even consider GC seals as tokens. The Primal tokens were unique for each Primal.

Edit 2: More from a different article.

That’s not to say we don’t have gameplay features in place to get people to go back to old dungeons. We have a token system where you gather different tokens and you can exchange those tokens for certain kinds of items. You’ll get more chances to get these tokens if you go to a lot of different dungeons, so going back to older dungeons will give you opportunities to get better items. That will be sort of a motivation for players to return to dungeons they’ve already completed.
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Idk about bards being useless...If the stuff about how much more dps DRG do while they have tp is true it may come to just stacking them and a bard to feed them tp on long fights.
 
Scores in the low 4000s on Max, fullscreen. Quite underwhelming. Plus, the visual glitches I was experiencing in the most recent build of the beta were present in the benchmark, meaning none of the spell effects were showing up!
 
dino1980 said:
That makes me a bit bummed, loved running back and forth in FFXI helping everyone, and the exp/Hr we got was always great with a bard in the group.
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Same. :/

I really wish they would add full support classes in XIV as those are typically my favorites like RDM and BRD were in FFXI.

Scholar might appeal to you a little. Assuming you directly control what abilities your Fairy uses, you can keep buffs up or use it to heal. Technically, Scholar is classified as a healer, but might appeal to you as well. I'm really looking forward to it. Assuming SE doesn't fuck it up and makes the Fairy completely auto.
 
SoraanTribal said:
Same. :/

I really wish they would add full support classes in XIV as those are typically my favorites like RDM and BRD were in FFXI.

Scholar might appeal to you a little. Assuming you directly control what abilities your Fairy uses, you can keep buffs up or use it to heal. Technically, Scholar is classified as a healer, but might appeal to you as well. I'm really looking forward to it. Assuming SE doesn't fuck it up and makes the Fairy completely auto.
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There's an auto and a manual mode for pets/summons.

(well not sure about auto but manual IS there, definetly)
 
Trying to make sure I understand all of this beta madness. I owned 1.0, but only played during the free month. I have not played any of the betas.

So, I will have access to Phase 4 (Open Beta) whenever it starts, but I won't have Early Access unless I either buy the game again or purchase a digital upgrade to CE (which presumably will be available prior to Early Access)?

Am I missing anything here?
 
SkyOdin said:
The Arcanist is likely to be available in phase 4. No word on any upcoming classes or races past release, but certainly nothing other than Arcanist for phase 4.
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Ok, thank you.
Another question.
How many are the regions? 3 (Thanalan, The Black Shroud and La Noscea)?
I remember a snowy one
 
mark93 said:
Ok, thank you.
Another question.
How many are the regions? 3 (Thanalan, The Black Shroud and La Noscea)?
I remember a snowy one
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There are 2 more major areas to be added, the snowy one you saw, Coerthas, and Mor Dhona.

Edit: fuck you khrono. Guess I shouldn't have looked up how to spell them.
 
Here's hoping we get to play this weekend. Torchlight 2 has kept my gaming in check with the mods it offers so it's a fresh experience. I need this game now.
 
mark93 said:
So there are 5 regions? Good job Square Enix!!
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To be honest they are the same 5 regions from 1.0, although they have all been redesigned so it's not like they're just re-used maps, but besides dungeons its not like there are new more locations.

At least Yoshida did say that he won't wait for an expansion to add more areas.
 
Khrno said:
To be honest they are the same 5 regions from 1.0, although they have all been redesigned so it's not like they're just re-used maps, but besides dungeons its not like there are new more locations.

At least Yoshida did say that he won't wait for an expansion to add more areas.
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I never played ff 14 1.0 since my pc is very old :P
 
This thread is on fire. There's not an hour goes by where I don't think about this game, I need it now.... Still struggling over race choice too. :(
 
Anybody got a video of the casting animations of galkas, or any in general? I remember messing with THM and it looked awkward to me. Then somebody here mentioned that all the animations were shared among the races, so it made sense. I'm still considering rolling one, but I'm worried how they look as caster classes.
 
Endless-Bravado said:
Roes before hoes man. You can't go wrong with them!
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I can agree with that! Just need to make up my mind between Sea Wolf or Hellsguard. That dirt on the nose ruins Hellsguard.

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First world obsessive problems.

I imagine you're rolling full buff with an avatar like that.
 
Does anyone know whether you can enter/activate a vanilla FFXIV key now and get a "free" upgrade to A Realm Reborn along with the first 30 days free? I originally participated in the vanilla Beta and gave the original release a miss.
 
SoraanTribal said:
Same. :/

I really wish they would add full support classes in XIV as those are typically my favorites like RDM and BRD were in FFXI.

Scholar might appeal to you a little. Assuming you directly control what abilities your Fairy uses, you can keep buffs up or use it to heal. Technically, Scholar is classified as a healer, but might appeal to you as well. I'm really looking forward to it. Assuming SE doesn't fuck it up and makes the Fairy completely auto.
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As a hardcore BRD player in XI, the BRD in XIV has always been a bit meh to me, Scholar peaked my interest and seems to be more what I'm looking for in terms of support. Quite excited to see how it plays!
 
truthiness said:
Trying to make sure I understand all of this beta madness. I owned 1.0, but only played during the free month. I have not played any of the betas.

So, I will have access to Phase 4 (Open Beta) whenever it starts, but I won't have Early Access unless I either buy the game again or purchase a digital upgrade to CE (which presumably will be available prior to Early Access)?

Am I missing anything here?
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Yeah, you've had access since Phase 3. You have to preorder at participating retailers for Early Access.
akaoni said:
I can agree with that! Just need to make up my mind between Sea Wolf or Hellsguard. That dirt on the nose ruins Hellsguard.

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First world obsessive problems.

I imagine you're rolling full buff with an avatar like that.
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I like the Hellsguard noses; reminds me of the early Galka concept art when they were lion men.
 
Morphine1680 said:
Any1 has any experience on multiple monitor setup and MMOs? Any benefits?
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I tried it with WoW a long time ago and it worked very very well. It's probably even better now and I'm sure they will have or will eventually have support for it in FFXIV.
If you're playing with 3 monitors, you'll have the game typically look the same on the middle monitor however the side monitors expand the view right to the sides of your character and also offer more screen space for the UI.
I'd say the big benefit from multi monitor in an MMO is the screen space for the UI elements.
 
omlet said:
Bard in ARR Is a damage dealing job with situational aura buffs (songs). It is a full-fledged bard in accordance with the real-life-influenced lore of the game described by YoshiP (I wish I had the link on hand but I don't). When you unlock bard as an archer, your bard level will be equal to your archer level so the lowest level a bard could be is 30. Your bard levels always equal your archer levels.

It's a lot of fun.

It's also nothing like bard in XI and never will be, thank the maker.
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I'm with some of the others in that I would really like a class that's exclusively support. I was very disappointed when I learned that BRD is basically just a COR in ARR. With that basis, I won't be surprised if RDM ends up being a true RDM with good melee attacks, instead of the FFXI version (which I really liked).

Hopefully we get something within the first six months (is that asking too much) that works exclusively as a support class.

Also just so I'm clear, if I take ACN to 50, all I have to do is unlock SCH and SMN and they're both 50 as well? I know I can do this at 30, but if I waited until 50, I'd have all three at 50 right? If that's the case, I do hope SE adds more classes in the future in addition to the jobs we're assumed to get.
 
DrDogg said:
Also just so I'm clear, if I take ACN to 50, all I have to do is unlock SCH and SMN and they're both 50 as well? I know I can do this at 30, but if I waited until 50, I'd have all three at 50 right? If that's the case, I do hope SE adds more classes in the future in addition to the jobs we're assumed to get.
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A job's level is always determined by its base class level. It doesn't matter what level you unlock SCH and SMN at, they will always be equal level to your ACN so there is no need to wait until 50.
 
I think Bard was alright in 1.0. I don't really understand what ARR's is suppose to be. Don't they count as healers in terms of roles too? I wouldn't exactly want to draw one with Duty Finder in a four man party if that's the case.


The thing about jobs is that all of their actions (the sum of what they are essentially) are obtained through quests. It is another line of progression.
 
Riposte said:
I think Bard was alright in 1.0. I don't really understand what ARR's is suppose to be. Don't they count as healers in terms of roles too? I wouldn't exactly want to draw one with Duty Finder in a four man party if that's the case.


The thing about jobs is that all of their actions (the sum of what they are essentially) are obtained through quests. It is another line of progression.
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Bard queues as DD like Archer.
 
Riposte said:
I think Bard was alright in 1.0. I don't really understand what ARR's is suppose to be. Don't they count as healers in terms of roles too? I wouldn't exactly want to draw one with Duty Finder in a four man party if that's the case.
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lol? Uh, no.

How is ARR's bard hard to understand? You are a ranged damage dealer (archer) that can sing buff songs in fights that last long enough to warrant them. You can set cure as bard but that's not what you're in a party for in normal scenarios just like you don't expect a PGL to main heal just because they have MP and can set cure and raise...
unless you're talking 1.x at wolf camp; I leveled my PGL there by setting cure and sacrifice and backup healing lol
 
omlet said:
lol? Uh, no.

How is ARR's bard hard to understand? You are a ranged damage dealer (archer) that can sing buff songs in fights that last long enough to warrant them. You can set cure as bard but that's not what you're in a party for in normal scenarios.
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I think his point is that their limit break is healing like a whm or sch will be, yet they queue as dps. This makes no sense, imho.
 
Riposte said:
I think Bard was alright in 1.0. I don't really understand what ARR's is suppose to be. Don't they count as healers in terms of roles too? I wouldn't exactly want to draw one with Duty Finder in a four man party if that's the case
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They count as DPS. They got the healer limit break, though, that's probably what got you confused.

Edit: Beaten so many times, bah.
 
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