This has happened to me. I can only leave it unplugged for about 20 minutes before it dies. I much prefer the 360's controller because I can use replaceable rechargeable batteries.
Xbox One will include TWO AA batteries
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This has happened to me. I can only leave it unplugged for about 20 minutes before it dies. I much prefer the 360's controller because I can use replaceable rechargeable batteries.
30 days here. The point was more to emphasize that it is a lot easier to be able to change the battery
phosphor112
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We already had this thread. You don't see it in the search because it was locked and purged to the depths of hell.
Starwolf_UK
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So not doing a Game Bear then?
But, Alkaline or Zinc though? Zinc are worthless and hold about 5% compared to the alkaline batteries (the idea is they are better for low drain as they'll run out sooner and so less likely to cause damage from leaking but Zinc are so crap and cheaply made they leak anyway).
Speaking of rechargables failing. Charge and Play kits come to mind.
But, Alkaline or Zinc though? Zinc are worthless and hold about 5% compared to the alkaline batteries (the idea is they are better for low drain as they'll run out sooner and so less likely to cause damage from leaking but Zinc are so crap and cheaply made they leak anyway).
Speaking of rechargables failing. Charge and Play kits come to mind.
HiredN00bs
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The way in which wireless controllers and their batteries work on Xbox 360 is preferable to the way they work on the PS3. I've been swapping Eneloops on my 360 controllers for years, and it's awesome. The fact that the recharging cable with which the PS3 shipped was very short didn't help matters either. As a future PS4 owner, I'm disappointed Sony didn't change this.
Diablohead
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I'm a gonna be a rebel and stick those AA's in my kitchen clock since I have an 1h battery charger.
Templar_Dante
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Well, I bought a Play N Charge kit for my 360 controller, it stopped holding a charge literally after a month. Two weeks into the new month, it didnt work unless it was plugged into the charger. It was also unusually hot after just a few minutes of use.
I went to the store, connected it to the display 360, showed them it didnt work without being plugged by the cable. They wanted my receipt, I gave it to them. It was a bundle with Smackdown vs Raw 2007. They simply gave me a new kit and took the deffective stuff back. You need to take it to where you purchased it and have proof of payment.
Insane Metal
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ShadowRunner
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Wouldn't surprise me if it required 4 
10/10 the citizen kane of jokes
travisbickle
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You bought a faulty PS3 controller, if you had bought a faulty 360 controller you would be in the same predicament. The real thing emphasized is Canada's lack of suitable consumer-friendly policies for returning broken goods.
A lot of people in this thread seem to be operating under the misconception that AA batteries means you can't plug the controller in to charge the batteries.
My mouse came with an AA Eneloop. It charges when the mouse is connected via USB. You can pretend it's a built-in battery of a different shape if you like.
My mouse came with an AA Eneloop. It charges when the mouse is connected via USB. You can pretend it's a built-in battery of a different shape if you like.
MS solution
pros:
- 3 options (AA, AA rechargeable, play'n charge kit)
- you can have backup batteries, so you can play wireless forever
- cable that comes with the play'n charge is very lengthy
- if battery dies you just exchange
cons:
- no rechargeable option in the box
- play'n charge kit battery not the most reliable (seems to be improved for the X1 tho)
Sony solution
pros:
- recheageable option right in the box
- reliable battery
cons:
- no options
- if the baterry dies you need to send the controller for replacement (or doing for itself, opening the controller, buying battery from ebay, etc)
- always need to plug the controller for recharge
- short cable
I think would be more reasonable if people ask Sony for exchangeable batteries than making such a drama over the MS solution.
pros:
- 3 options (AA, AA rechargeable, play'n charge kit)
- you can have backup batteries, so you can play wireless forever
- cable that comes with the play'n charge is very lengthy
- if battery dies you just exchange
cons:
- no rechargeable option in the box
- play'n charge kit battery not the most reliable (seems to be improved for the X1 tho)
Sony solution
pros:
- recheageable option right in the box
- reliable battery
cons:
- no options
- if the baterry dies you need to send the controller for replacement (or doing for itself, opening the controller, buying battery from ebay, etc)
- always need to plug the controller for recharge
- short cable
I think would be more reasonable if people ask Sony for exchangeable batteries than making such a drama over the MS solution.
SEGAvangelist
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Poster said it was just under 2 months. That's well past the 14-30 day return policy. That was my point.
You realize you have to pay extra for the play and charge kit, right? It doesn't come with the console or the standard controller.
If that's a pro for MS, then the fact you can buy a long cable that will recharge your PS4 controller for much less money should be a Pro for Sony.
test_account
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I would add "more costly" to the cons as well. You need to buy batteries. Naturally its possible to already have rechargeable batteries, but in the same way its possible to already have a long USB cable for the PS4 controller charging.
EDIT: Curufinwe already wrote basically what i said
Templar_Dante
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I returned mine after 6 weeks.
He/she returned theres 6-8 weeks then?
Faulty is faulty. Give receipt. Show if it is working in accordance with you complaint. They will swop it and take it up with Sony.
test_account
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I think it depends a bit on how long the controller is lying without being charged. But in general, i think its a bigger chance that the conrtoller gets worn out before the battery dies.
Kazuma Kiryu
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Oh man, "short cable"/"lengthy cable". Thanks, I really needed the laugh today.
Good luck with shinn, he's a real hardcore microsoft fan.
Bluekaveli
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Wow, I knew something like this would happen.
pants
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Again, I'm not leaving a battery charger permanently plugged into a socket (and it usually occupies the adjacent two sockets as well due to it's ginormous girth) to service a joypad and tv remote. It's silly. I'm not bout dat life.
What would be the point of the play & charge kit if the stock X1 controller could recharge batteries? You could just buy rechargeable batteries for much cheaper then.
Matrix XII
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I've had 8 PS3 controllers and three of them died, one of them is dying, but none of those issues are battery related. The batteries in them have lasted well.
When I had two PS3's going in a bach pad a few years ago, the controllers can get abused when someone gets destroyed in Madden or NHL
Can you back that up?
In a fit between ps4 and xbone that would be offset by the higher cost for the ps4 controllers built in battery.
Imho the real plus of built in batteries, is that the charging electronics are customized for it and put less wear on the battery than typical battery-rechargers do.
Good point,
but Microsoft could be generous, or hope that some people might prefer the play&charge kit anyway.
Dark Octave
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Over delivering.
Personally i think Major Nelsons post was just bait to see the reaction.. It certainly got one lol.
And I've not bought a single piece of electrical equipment (TV, DVD etc) over the past 10 years that didn't come with remote/controller batteries. Nothing particularly news worthy TBH.
MN is probably laughing his head off at this thread!!
And I've not bought a single piece of electrical equipment (TV, DVD etc) over the past 10 years that didn't come with remote/controller batteries. Nothing particularly news worthy TBH.
MN is probably laughing his head off at this thread!!
My SIXAXIS controllers also have decent battery. It's a Shinn post. I wouldn't take it seriously. It's basically a game of damage limitation for one side, and exaggeration for the other.
It's interesting people are still of the mind set that lithium ions are likely to just die or die out so soon. These things degrade at a very slow rate, in-fact, NiMH rechargeable batteries (like the AA one's used for devices), degrade on average at 4 times the speed.
There's other funny elements to his post.
- always need to plug the controller for recharge
I plug mine in like once a week. On the PS4 you can recharge controllers whilst the console is off, so it's a non issue, and certainly not "always". PS4 being USB3 as well means it'll probably recharge quicker too, even though the PS3 already charged controllers very quick.
- short cable
A longer USB cable can be bought for £2 off Amazon...
Some of the reasoning is reminiscent of one of the arguments promoting the use of external power supplies. What if it dies, if it's internal the whole thing will need to be replaced. Well, the same argument could be used for promoting having other components external too, like hard drives, blu-ray drives, memory and all sorts. It's regressive and backwards excuse making, used to justify archaic design. The idea is to design these things to be long lasting, AND have good refined design. I have devices with batteries (SIXAXIS, mobiles etc) or power supplies built in (TV's, consoles etc) that are several years old, some over a decade, that still work.
Ironically, hard drives die or give out far more commonly than power supplies in consoles, these can be replaced in the PS4, but not on the Xbox One. More commonly than that are GPU issues, but you're going to have to send away to repair either way for that.
I hoping they have chnaged it for PS4
but then again i have a usb extender cable anyway so it doesn't bother me.
diffusionx
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An eneloop starter kit with the charger and 4 AAs is like $5 more than a play and charge kit. It will work on any device in your house that uses batteries. It's easy to make sure you have a charged set ready to go.
It's just a better solution than hooking up your controller with a wire and charging that way.
It's just a better solution than hooking up your controller with a wire and charging that way.
FonkyByNature
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2 AA batteries included ? YES !!!!
Charge over night, Charge with rechargeable, use disposables, it's as if people seem to dislike being given the choice, which is funny as that seems to the one of the favorite catchphrases of people who claimed that kinect shouldn't of been mandatory.
It's strange how when it comes to any other consumer electronic device, having non replaceable batteries (rechargable or otherwise) is frowned up as a method of building functional degradation and obsolescence into an an otherwise functioning product. Visit a gaming website and suddenly it's the best thing ever according to Sony zealots.
It's strange how when it comes to any other consumer electronic device, having non replaceable batteries (rechargable or otherwise) is frowned up as a method of building functional degradation and obsolescence into an an otherwise functioning product. Visit a gaming website and suddenly it's the best thing ever according to Sony zealots.
Neuromancer
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How do they expect to make money if they're just giving all this stuff away for free?
What is the issue?
The only issue I can see is that one controller has a built in rechargeable pack.
and one that doesn't?
I just cannot comprehend why anybody would say it's a bad thing, exactly as I cannot comprehend anybody who claims that the Xbox One's built in non replaceable, probably low speed is better than being able to replace it as you can in the PS3/4.
ekka4shiki
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Bu-but AA batteries make the controller feels heavy.