Well let's just say that publishers don't put those Metacritic bonus goals just because they can.
The Wonderful 101 Review Thread
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Well let's just say that publishers don't put those Metacritic bonus goals just because they can.
AcceptableGhost
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Yes, yes I know the logistics and I'm sure it will be better existing than not at all.
Honestly? Yes, nintendo should realy ditch the console market and become third party. They can keep their handhelds since that is the only thing they can do right but that's not a conversation for this thread.
From the last study I can find, Word of Mouth is the biggest driver: http://kotaku.com/5428141/word-of-mouth-sells-the-most-video-games
Retail is retail presence, like those giant cardboard stands you see or the clerk telling you to buy it.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Marketing.
bobbychalkers
Member
Why would you want a game to be bad? What do you get out of that?
evilromero
Member
Thankfully I played it and it's awesome. But if not for that, I'd probably pass on it based on the mixed reviews. And from my perspective, it's nothing like Pikmin. It may look like that from videos, but it is clearly more related to Viewtiful Joe or something highly action-oriented. I can't believe that review would even try to string their gameplay styles together.
Alcotholic
Banned
8 year olds these days play call of duty, so I don't think a joke about cougars or some suggestive cartoon sexuality will ruin their minds. If anything they wont completely understand it. Saturday morning cartoons have suggestive content like this sometimes, so lowering the rating, because he feels its better for younger kids seems a bit odd.
He also thinks Nintendo should go third party so.. yeah.
Vampirolol
Member
Reviews count a lot. I bought Bioshock Infinite instantly when I saw those reviews.
Tells the developer that this was not a good idea and they can compare that to the other ideas that they have had that were more successful. Negative and positive reinforcement are both important to building quality products.
I'm like the devil.
Right..
Apophis2036
Banned
I for one am surprised that it scored aswell as it did, even the IGN review is higher than I thought it would get from most sites. I thought there were a lot of 6 and 6.5's coming due to it's art style and 'complex' controls.
Have the game pre ordered, will get it on Wed or Thursday.
Have the game pre ordered, will get it on Wed or Thursday.
Of course, next time I'm gonna write an haiku about GTAV and call it a review. Also you didn't touch on what I said about objectivity, even though from your response I guess you think it's not really needed. -_-
Let's not act like reviewer's don't rate games that are fairly simple mechanically, don't pose much of a challenge, and are able to be completed in a short time higher than more complex games that take time to master.
Games can take a few hours to up to a hundred hours to complete. Reviewers seem to get paid peanuts so it's no surprise that they don't spend a huge amount of time with any single game since they have to play a'lot of games and put out a'lot of reviews.
That's why I'd rather listen to the opinions of GAF members that have the time to actually dig deep into a game and are passionate about the industry rather than a bunch of people that have to play a ridiculous amount of games at all times.
Games can take a few hours to up to a hundred hours to complete. Reviewers seem to get paid peanuts so it's no surprise that they don't spend a huge amount of time with any single game since they have to play a'lot of games and put out a'lot of reviews.
That's why I'd rather listen to the opinions of GAF members that have the time to actually dig deep into a game and are passionate about the industry rather than a bunch of people that have to play a ridiculous amount of games at all times.
And that is why we want TW101 to succeed.
The fuck is this?
papercan55
Member
Tells the developer that wii u was not a good idea and they can compare that to the other ps3/360 ideas that they have had that were more successful.
Visualante2
Member
It's just a further level of conditionality to motivate (read: fuck over) developers foolish enough to sign up to it. I'd love to see some in depth studies of metacritic's influence on sales. Perhaps through Steam, which usually lists the Metacritic inside the store page. I wouldn't read that much into it, however.
Do people review Candy Crush and Farmville?
LiveFromKyoto
Member
From the last study I can find, Word of Mouth is the biggest driver: http://kotaku.com/5428141/word-of-mouth-sells-the-most-video-games
Retail is retail presence, like those giant cardboard stands you see or the clerk telling you to buy it.
Huh. That's really interesting. Ads at the very bottom of the list.
And that's why I'd rather it doesn't. I felt like the premise was mediocre at best. We'll see what happens commercially and I'm fine either way, I just feel like this wasn't that great for a platinum idea.
You're really digging the whole conspiracy that Wii U games are automatically rated lower, aren't you?
Oh boy
Edit: Christ, that was a quick ban! Why the hell do people have that sort of mindset anyway?
We don't need this.
Maybe Sony should drop the PS4 since they lost billions this generation on the PS3?
Net_Wrecker
Member
The demo felt amazing, the higher reviews state what I feel will be strengths of the game, and Platinum's blogs have revealed the game to be even deeper than I thought initially. In the end, the lower reviews don't really mean anything to me. It remains to be seen if the later weapons actually do have input issues, but considering people had issues with the demo, which I had no issues with, I'm not sure how much they'll apply to me.
I'm anticipating impressions from people who picked up the demo quickly, and I'm still looking forward to release.
I'm anticipating impressions from people who picked up the demo quickly, and I'm still looking forward to release.
did you even play the demo?
CouldBeWorse
Member
That sounds like some awful Consumer Reports-style product review bullshit.
When reviewing art, all that matters is the opinion.
If you find objective reviews to be an accurate and honest way to gauge a product, sure, objectivity is great then. But thinking a review needs objective assertions and observations to properly present what a product is, is naive. I don't read reviews with a mental tick box of what the review should cover before making my own assertions of a game.
If your GTA V haiku made me shit bricks with how concise and honest it is, that's a great review.
This too.
Yeah, ads are mostly to get the initial buyers who then cause Word of Mouth, look up reviews, go try the demo, or ask their GameStop associate about it.
test_account
XP-39C²
I think that depends a lot on if it sells 1 million copies at full price or not. Bayonetta apparently sold around a million copies worldwide, but Sega canceled a sequel for it, and The Wonderful 101 had a higher budget than Bayonetta.
Isometric view + 100 people on screen = same Genre, same everything.
what the fuck
TheActtionFigure
Member
There is no scientific matrix to measure the degree of objectivity one must use when giving an opinion on anything. Let's face it, a review is just a paid opinion no matter how you slice it. The criteria you listed is the basis of how you personally would evaluate a game, which is fine. Perhaps as an informed individual seeking out reviewers that follow that same criteria would better suit you. Otherwise critiquing someone's professional opinion is pissing against the wind.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Cancelled!
It's a different situation. Nintendo are becoming more irrelevant in the console market. Sony lost some relevancy (especially in the US) and a shit ton of cash but they never became irrelevant. Nintendo has a lot to do to not become irrelevant in the console market with the WiiU
Dat hyperbole!
And no, I think nintendo should drop their big brand console market because of their failure to understand their market. Profit/loss margins are one of the indicators of this but not the only. The Wii U is also just continuing the lackluster performence of the Wii. We have yet to see what the next generation looks like for other companies.
dragonlife
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EDIT: the post disappeared...
papercan55
Member
not all all,
I'm more into the conspiracy that your trying to port beg,
but really really well concealed behind your hatred for the game.
BlazingDarkness
Member
I think you're a little too emotionally invested in this.
test_account
XP-39C²
Not to get too much into an arguement about this, but i must ask out of curiousity, is there even a place in The Last Of Us where you press triangle (or whatever one-click-button) to avoid death? I cant remember anything like that.
EDIT: Or maybe if you have a shiv available and the clickers attack you.
I've already said I've had no hands-on time with this game. I've watched plenty of media for it and since all I'm doing is judging the premise of the game, whether or not I've played the demo has little bearing on my feelings.
You're just throwing pearls of wisdom all around tonight huh? lol