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Does the internet even understand feminism?
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dark_prinny
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Yup. Your intellect seems to match Homer's so far.
Seems to me you do care, because you bothered to post here in the first place, but you are too afraid to discuss it.
dark_prinny
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I don't have to worry about feninism. I'm a man.
wtf :b
I think if anyone has to worry about feminism, it would be men.
oneils
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The kids and money go to the primary care giver.
If the father cannot demonstrate that they share at least half of the child raising duties, then the kids go to the mother. It is kind of that simple.
I see a lot of people make this mistake. They move out, shack up with the new girlfriend/boyfriend and then a year or so later file for divorce and request 50% custody of the kids. In the meantime they were an every other weekend parent.
How exactly are they going to prove to a judge that the mother (or dad) should not have primary custody? If they have just left them with her for that last few months, they have a lot of work to do to prove that the kids would be better off with shared custody.
If divorcing fathers and mothers (yes, even mothers) are serious about shared custody, they have to prove that 50% of their kids time is spent with them and they really shouldn't move out of the marital home.
There is a right way to file for divorce if your goal is shared custody. It requires some hard work and research, though.
Sanky Panky
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And born out of a test tube it seems. No need to worry about those other humans.
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I have stopped going into feminism debates. There used to be a radical feminism, but I feel that is mostly gone.
Now feminism is equality between genders and that is something I stand behind.
I actually did went from a perfectly positive opinion about feminism to a 'oh god what stupid thing is it about today' because of thread/article like the one about Dragon's Crown or even the recent Hotline Miami 2 rape scene thingy.
Not that it made me think badly of feminism as a whole.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
One of the interesting and problematic thing the Internet enables is allowing extreme individuals to intentionally or inadvertently take credit for representing an entire group. The egalitarian self-publishing power of the net can be a great thing. It also allows people who want to stir up controversy (or are intrinsically controversial) to steal the spotlight on the world stage a lot more easily than they'd be able to offline. Got a molehill you'd like to oversell as Mt. Everest? Kotaku is only a tweet away.
This is pretty much a universal phenomenon that affects all groups, not just feminists. I suppose it contributes to the heavy noise to signal ratio on the net. It also encourages observers of a group to frame the entire thing a certain way in their mind that doesn't accurately represent the whole.
Prax
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Urgh. This thread makes me mad, as do most feminism threads because it gets filled with ignorance or lack of.. ability to understand the complexity of the issue.
Not that I can understand everything completely. But it's galling just knowing how.. little.. people.. bleeagaha..
Anyway, one of the biggest thing that irks me is the "rape: BUT WHAT ABOUT MEN TOO!?".
Well, yes, rape is a huge issue for men too.
But it has gendered roots that feminism looks to address and it's exasperating that people don't take the extra step to understand that?
Like what is the context of rape happening to men? And why is it mainly from other men? And that it goes wildly underreported? Or it seems like male victims are less supported by overall society than female victims?
A lot of it (besides the rapist wanting sex) has to do with control and humiliation.. and the underrporting due to shame. And why? Seems to me that it's because being raped removes power from the victim, and then the male victim becomes "less of a man"/the bitch/the pussy, which means they became the woman (which is bottom of the rung in this kind of mindset and is the typical go-to image of a rape victim--so when a man-who-should-be-a-man "falls" to this level, he's really really hit rock bottom apparently).
Don't you think the treatment of women in society plays into at least a part of why male rape victims have the issues they have? All this stuff is interconnected.
And there is such a thing as "benevolent sexism" (e.g. oh, you women are delicate, so you don't have to go to war and die~) which although might seem like a 'favour' is actually just condescending poop.
So it's hard for me to process that so many people think "sexism is over and feminism is unneeded--well at least in the first world". No. It's not. Not by a long shot. It goes so deep that it harms men too.
And yeah, I understand that even some self-proclaimed feminists fall victim to shallow thinking or have "pet causes/issues" within the movement and may be dismissive of other interconnected issues. I am not sure how to really fix the problem of people just being poop thinkers when it comes to any cause, but I always hope that people will eventually see the bigger picture and understand what it really is they are supposed to be fighting for.
Not that I can understand everything completely. But it's galling just knowing how.. little.. people.. bleeagaha..
Anyway, one of the biggest thing that irks me is the "rape: BUT WHAT ABOUT MEN TOO!?".
Well, yes, rape is a huge issue for men too.
But it has gendered roots that feminism looks to address and it's exasperating that people don't take the extra step to understand that?
Like what is the context of rape happening to men? And why is it mainly from other men? And that it goes wildly underreported? Or it seems like male victims are less supported by overall society than female victims?
A lot of it (besides the rapist wanting sex) has to do with control and humiliation.. and the underrporting due to shame. And why? Seems to me that it's because being raped removes power from the victim, and then the male victim becomes "less of a man"/the bitch/the pussy, which means they became the woman (which is bottom of the rung in this kind of mindset and is the typical go-to image of a rape victim--so when a man-who-should-be-a-man "falls" to this level, he's really really hit rock bottom apparently).
Don't you think the treatment of women in society plays into at least a part of why male rape victims have the issues they have? All this stuff is interconnected.
And there is such a thing as "benevolent sexism" (e.g. oh, you women are delicate, so you don't have to go to war and die~) which although might seem like a 'favour' is actually just condescending poop.
So it's hard for me to process that so many people think "sexism is over and feminism is unneeded--well at least in the first world". No. It's not. Not by a long shot. It goes so deep that it harms men too.
And yeah, I understand that even some self-proclaimed feminists fall victim to shallow thinking or have "pet causes/issues" within the movement and may be dismissive of other interconnected issues. I am not sure how to really fix the problem of people just being poop thinkers when it comes to any cause, but I always hope that people will eventually see the bigger picture and understand what it really is they are supposed to be fighting for.
Lord Ghirahim
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I saw a tumblr feminist call Hideo Kojima a homophobe and a transphobe today. Yep.
Boss Doggie
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Yeah, I know. Expecting too much from humanity is kinda... being too hopeful.
Yeah, but then at least these people should have some control on what they spout, and admit mistakes when shown.
Like I said, another problem is how the media reacts to "solve" problems... in a terribly wrong way. Adding a female character won't make a game "more feminist".
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