The Death Of Nintendo Has Been Greatly Under-Exaggerated
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vagabondarts
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The reason they are really doomed is that they don't put the customer first. Then they put their fingers in their ears when customers give them feedback and say "LALALALALALA NOT LISTENING!!"
Miles Quaritch
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Think that about covers it.
Incredible. I especially like the chalkboard. We need more chalkboards.
What terrifies me about this one is that in the future we'll all become parasite-mouthed monkeys.
Exactly, I bet Nintendo will be quite pleased if 3DS lifetime sales are 20% behind DS.
sammyCYBORG
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I won't deny that Wii U sales are abysmal and I think they're past the point of being able to really turn it around, however as far as I'm concerned Wii U has had a great first year:
ZombiU
New Super Mario Bros U
New Super Luigi U
Pikmin 3
Lego City Undercover
The Wonderful 101
Rayman Legends
Wind Waker HD
Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze
Super Mario 3D World
If I have played as many great exclusives as that (Rayman being the only non exclusive) on my PS4 as that in the first year I'll be extremely happy. Nintendo has delivered with the games, just not the sales.
ZombiU
New Super Mario Bros U
New Super Luigi U
Pikmin 3
Lego City Undercover
The Wonderful 101
Rayman Legends
Wind Waker HD
Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze
Super Mario 3D World
If I have played as many great exclusives as that (Rayman being the only non exclusive) on my PS4 as that in the first year I'll be extremely happy. Nintendo has delivered with the games, just not the sales.
Arc Christelle
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Gotta meet that quota
Doctor Decimate
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The idea that the 3DS has to match the DS to be successful is hilarious.
"But all the 2DS really is is an admission that the 3DS is ultimately a failure."
That line alone sells it to me that the author is an idiot. The 3DS is the currently the highest month to month selling gaming system out there. The 2DS is not an admission of anything except that Nintendo wants to expand the market to 7 and under kids and those that aren't huge gamers and $129 might be an impulse buy.
That line alone sells it to me that the author is an idiot. The 3DS is the currently the highest month to month selling gaming system out there. The 2DS is not an admission of anything except that Nintendo wants to expand the market to 7 and under kids and those that aren't huge gamers and $129 might be an impulse buy.
HitokiriNate85
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I'm not going to argue public perception of the Wii U, because it's pretty cut and dry how that's working out. That said, I don't think it can get any worse than it is right now. Well, it can, but I don't think it's going to happen. It has a really good holiday lineup this year, and while it doesn't have the game the console needs for sales to bloom, it's going to pick up. Also, the idea of amputating the Wii U now is just crazy. Nintendo wouldn't have a replacement more in line with public desire. What they need to do is what they're always been good at: making great software. They needed this year's lineup last year, and they need a more diverse, inventive lineup for next year. If they can do they, they'll probably be all right.
And the 3DS a failure? C'mon. It's certainly no DS at this point, but I'd say they're doing all right. Saying that right before the release of Pokemon is laughable.
And the 3DS a failure? C'mon. It's certainly no DS at this point, but I'd say they're doing all right. Saying that right before the release of Pokemon is laughable.
He should right a article about vita if he wants to talk about failure.
Tricky I Shadow
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That's not a great year, you listed Rayman twice, you listed a reskin DLC, and HD re release, some of those games are not even out yet, and look at the metacritic scores of those that are.
At this point I would be perfectly fine with Nintendo giving up consoles and being a handheld only company, more 3DS games the better
Sapphire Dreams
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The death of Nintendo has been greatly over exaggerated in this article.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
From the same article, this will get discussion going
I see you've actually played it then. Oh wait.
Because its selling better than the Wii U, or because it has a higher game attach rate than the Wii U?
sammyCYBORG
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By the time it's been out a year there will have been 10 great exclusives out for it. Is that really so bad? I can honestly say that neither the 360 or PS3 brought ten great exclusives out every year over. They might not be the top tier, games of forever titles like Mario Galaxy and Ocarina of Time, but they're all great games.
I judge my consoles by the experiences I've had with it, not sales.
Fonz72
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Nintendo is the Apple of video games. Mass profit, followed by a not so hot year or two and BOOM! The company is dead! They will never regain success! DOOM! GLOOM!
What a terrible link bait article.
The 2DS is taking the place of the DSi in Nintendo's lineup. It is an entry level handheld that will play all of the current 3DS games as well as the huge DS library. I can't believe people don't see that. It's the perfect handheld for young kids, as they aren't supposed to use the 3D on the 3DS anyway.
It will be a huge success and in no way spells failure for the 3DS, in fact it is a testament to the success of the 3DS as there are enough games made for the system that Nintendo has the option to sell a second platform for them.
What a terrible link bait article.
The 2DS is taking the place of the DSi in Nintendo's lineup. It is an entry level handheld that will play all of the current 3DS games as well as the huge DS library. I can't believe people don't see that. It's the perfect handheld for young kids, as they aren't supposed to use the 3D on the 3DS anyway.
It will be a huge success and in no way spells failure for the 3DS, in fact it is a testament to the success of the 3DS as there are enough games made for the system that Nintendo has the option to sell a second platform for them.
Mostly the same, couple new levels and bosses, still a reskin
sammyCYBORG
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Luigi is far more than re-skinned DLC. It's worthy of being a standalone title and is better than the Mario game. WW HD should be great, it's just WW with better graphics. Safe bet no? And who cares what the metacritic of some of those games are, ZombiU was SLATED yet it's one of my favourite horror games ever.
Smiles and Cries
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maybe if we all wish this was true long enough Nintendo would finally listen and do something so stop denying the article and agree with it :3
I want change!
man that sucked to read lol
I want change!
man that sucked to read lol
peanutbutterlatte
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Beetlejuice, beetlejuice, BEEETTLEJUIIICE.
I can agree with that, challenging times but they'll still be around for a while yet.
Heh.
If Nintendo had based all of their software entirely around 3D, and were now withdrawing the 3DS models, he'd have a point. But they deliberately set it up so that 3D wasn't essential, future non-3D portables would still be able to play the software, and the 3DS and XL are still selling. That's not failure, it's called having a bit of regard for future compatibility while expanding a successful product range and cross-selling with software (Pokemon). Not really sure how anyone can say it means they've run out of ideas, it'll be interesting looking at the Xmas sales of the thing and how much it cannibalises the standard 3D models, or whether it adds growth, that's what I'm interested to see. Every so often Nintendo get a batshit-crazy simple idea that just works.
Groan.
"Quick! Look over there!".
It says a lot about you crazy cats that you immediately leapt to this.
Second Circle Pad
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So selling worse than best selling handheld ever makes company doomed.
ok
Absurd to go in with the expectation that any Nintendo handheld can bring DS-level success, and likewise with any Wii successor. Nintendo makes entertainment gadgets, and sometimes with a little luck these arrive at exactly the right moment to catch the world on fire. The DS hit just as touchscreen casual gaming was ready to explode, and the Wii hit just as the TV set was ready to become a social hub for accessible gaming. Those are wonderful success stories, but there's no way to expect that level of success to be sustained consistently. I'm sure big hits will come in the future, but in the business of making unique gadgets with various hooks, you'll never see a straight line of sales gen after gen.
peanutbutterlatte
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#stillalive
not psycho
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Nintendo has been doomed ever since killing the Virtual Boy.
That was their one slim chance of survival.
That was their one slim chance of survival.
Are you talking about Super Luigi U? There are no same levels BUT bosses are the same IIRC. So that's 82 completely new levels for $20. Why are you talking shit about game you haven't clearly played?
Roland Gunner
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WiiU's complete failure in one of Nintendo's two main markets has to be a huge concern but the author's points regarding the 3DS are just garbage. The product has been very successful and there really isn't any reason to think the next mobile won't do roughly as well. 3DS has made money while competing with smart phones and tablets, I don't see anything else out there to threaten that.
The_Macho_King
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It's funny to see how many think Nintendo cannot be harmed. I've been a fan and owner of thei platforms for decades and this is the worst situation I can ever remember them being in (excluding the Virtual Boy disaster).
I actually think people are too optimistic.
It's not just about games. Momentum is a big part of it all and the Wii U doesn't even have a chance to get going without Mario Kart for the holiday. They're gonna get steamrolled by next gen launches.
Any logical gamer should be concerned about Nintendo's future in the marketplace.
I actually think people are too optimistic.
It's not just about games. Momentum is a big part of it all and the Wii U doesn't even have a chance to get going without Mario Kart for the holiday. They're gonna get steamrolled by next gen launches.
Any logical gamer should be concerned about Nintendo's future in the marketplace.
I hate the "tracking below the DS" argument because the DS was one of highest selling products in the history of video games. Everything is tracking below the DS. Why didnt this argument pop up with the PS3 which has not and will never reach the PS2. Heck the Vita isn't even tracking with the PSP. Yet no "Sony is dooooooomed"
Captain Tuttle
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The article is fairly in depth, I suspect most people are just reading a couple of lines in the OP. I don't think the company is doomed for failure but they have shown a lack of innovation and willingness to adapt that is being magnified by the speed of change in the industry (smartphones, tablets and games on them). The author also makes a point that this is also a threat to Sony and MS, one that they must adapt to in order to thrive. Anecdotally my kids time with their 3DS is also shared with time on our tablets and the smartphones that we handed down to them. The market is actually expanding but the part that Nintendo caters to is shrinking rapidly. They have to adapt.
Nah, he should stick with the Wii U.
You must live in a rock or something like that.
You have not played this game. Bail out now.
Basileus777
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I was with him, then he started talking about IOS ports and Disney buyouts. Sorry, but he takes this way too far to take seriously.
Brainiac 8
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Aaaand article invalidated.
lol.
Ninja Scooter
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Forget that. Let's just whine about how everyone always says Nintendo is Doomed. Since 1886, you know.
peanutbutterlatte
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There are many posters who have pointed out why the article is bullshit, you're just picking the worst/most simplistic ones. It's a bad article because it skirts around facts, exaggerates the negative, and at time outright lies to push its agenda.
I totally agree WiiU is absolutely Dead, there is no saving the system, whether you have a price drop, remove Wii pad and etc. I think Nintendo have lost the console market and cannot regain it even with their next system. Luckily their 3DS system is successful, however not as successful as DS due to smartphones taking over. I think all Nintendo can rely on is the handheld market right now with games like Pokemon and Mario like they have been successful before with the Gameboy. Perhaps their next system would be basically a handheld system with a HDMI output.