Callibretto
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we'll see how the japanese sales will do, I'm curious too, maybe they just think it as cheap vita and buy it for that,
PS VITA TV announced (~$100, Vita set top box - as in it has no screen - for TVs)
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we'll see how the japanese sales will do, I'm curious too, maybe they just think it as cheap vita and buy it for that,
lostsouldier
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But you're downplaying the gaming aspect of Vita TV, which is a MASSIVE selling point over the Apple TV. Netflix and Youtube will be on Vita TV, plus gaming and other media apps.
michaelius
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I don't see any reason why they wouldn't try to sell it in Japan too.
The PSP side can handle fullspeed Game Boy, NES, Genesis, Game Boy Advance and of course flawless PS1 through Sony's emulator.
That's literally all I would need.
Aquamarine
Member
Yes...it will probably be tracked as a separate SKU, similar to how it works with the 3DS / 3DS LL.
R10Neymarfan
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But then watch two-three years later the console gaining that ability. At least through CFW
shinobi602
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Excellent. Hopefully it comes in black.
opticalmace
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If this is popular it'll probably encourage Vita game development, and thus portable sales?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It's ok to think this but that has nothing to do with what this thing does. It's impact could be bigger than some anticipate but the usefulness and convenience is very exciting and real. We can talk sales potential and viability all day but this caters to a market which isn't even tapped yet and there are some who just cringe at hand held gaming. It hits many demo's at once.
I really like this but really concerned with the image quality of these Vita games being blown up to HD resolutions. The reason some of these games look so good is because they are on a much smaller screen. Don't really see the appeal of playing these on a larger screen. Now the PS4 remote play could be the killer app for such a device.
This will still count as Vita "sales" for Sony. All Sony needs is for Vita platforms to be out there and developers will start to develop on the platform. At 100 dollars, this thing will sell like hotcakes and hence more Devs develop on Vita.
It'll look better than android games on the bloody Ouya, that's for sure. And it's the same price!
Iacobellis
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Would match my BRAVIA set and future PS4 very nicely.
Dead Prince
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there's probably a scaler in the thing or it'll be software based. we'll see.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I'd really hope they've come up with a different interface for this, but according to the pictures on the website it's the same 'bubbles and swipable pages' that the vita has. If they are cooking up something that works well with a controller/Sony remote than I'll be a lot more interested.
And people who want to stream PS4 to other TVs/other houses...won't it end up looking rough at long distances and 720p max resolution?
And people who want to stream PS4 to other TVs/other houses...won't it end up looking rough at long distances and 720p max resolution?
lostsouldier
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If only Nintendo put out a $99 box that had access to the entire NES,SNES,64,Gameboy,GBA, DS and 3DS library...
People always bring up how awesome it would be if Nintendo re-issued the NES or SNES. Seems like Sony is really ahead of the curve here.
Of course, no sane person is paying $8 for 20 yr old SNES games, but still, if done right Nintendo could do big things in this space.
People always bring up how awesome it would be if Nintendo re-issued the NES or SNES. Seems like Sony is really ahead of the curve here.
Of course, no sane person is paying $8 for 20 yr old SNES games, but still, if done right Nintendo could do big things in this space.
Marty Chinn
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I'm not. Show me where I am? Please do. I've already voiced my excitement for this.
The original person I was replying to was asking what can an AppleTV or Roku do that a PS Vita TV can't and then limited it to iTunes and a handful of built in media apps.
Perfect Cha0s
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I wonder if this is a sign of Sony moving away from the handheld space, or if it's a sign of their future strategy: a handheld + companion device to bridge with their main console.
No, red steel was just my wildest desires spilling onto gaf
CaptainTiptop
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It's still Vita hardware. And it will also encourage more software sales.
eddfromtheriver
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I just hope that when you play VITA games on the tv, it doesn't add black borders at all, and if it doesn't... then i'll sure as hell buy one.
Callibretto
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Sony don't care which Vita hardware is sold, also they're probably start making some profit from the new Vita 2000 so even if it only sold a few, they're making money out of it.
not sure if they're making profit or loss for VitaTV though.
Mindgames.
Pretty much this. Once it starts selling well, it will garner more interest from devs to develop Vita games.
Agree. For that price, you are getting a screen-less PSone, a PSP, a PSV, a media player and a remote PS4 player. It is quite an amazing deal if you ask me.
to the people saying there will be confusion about this, remember that we don't even know how remote play & gaikai actually work yet, so this might end up being a lot less confusing when it is in the hands of consumers. there are too many unknown details at the moment to really know if it will be a clusterfuck of confusion at launch.
If you buy them physically you are paying far more than that.
Aquamarine
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Seriously, it's the $100 price point that makes this so damn attractive.
$100 is impulse-buy level for a console.
$100 is impulse-buy level for a console.
I'm currently building such a device.
Got a dead SNES (PAL design) that's in good condition. Threw away the inside. Going to place a raspberry pi computer inside running retroarch, hook it up to the controller ports for real pads, and run an HDMI cable to a port at the back. Hook up a retrode inside so real carts can be used and dumped onto the 16gb of memory inside.
The result is a console that looks like a SNES, works like a SNES, but also runs games for Genesis, Game Boy and GBA too via emulation.
it will be awesome. And surprisingly easy to make.
Zoe
Member
Use the controller you already have? Or your TV remote with HDMI-CEC?
Callibretto
Member
how do the japanese react toward this announcement? is there any buzz or hype for VitaTV?
The bigger issue will be the older games I think.
If VitaTV takes off then I can see devs taking it into account when designing their games.
sublimit
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Yeah,personally i intent to use my small 27" LCD tv for Vtv stuff (which i currently use for Wii/VC/PS2/PS1 games) so i'm curious how Vita and PSP games will look on that display.
I'm assuming that they will look better than on my 42" LCD.
Callibretto
Member
no need to worry about future Vita game compatibility, any Vita dev are aware of VitaTV and will definitely offer some kind alternate control scheme for DualShock controller.
it's the game that are already out that is questionable. I'm not sure how Tearaway will work since it use every singe Vita hardware feature from rear pad, camera, mic, and gyro.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Vita is the only portable games console which could have its games upscaled to an HDTV and still look passable in the IQ department.
Despite being a mobile architecture, the precision and algorithms it uses for properties and processes like 3D depth, color blending, texture filtering, anti-aliasing, etc. are all high quality, not cut at the corners.
Despite being a mobile architecture, the precision and algorithms it uses for properties and processes like 3D depth, color blending, texture filtering, anti-aliasing, etc. are all high quality, not cut at the corners.
lostsouldier
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I would also be paying $50 for a retail copy of FFVII but Sony/Square arent insane so I pay $9.99, which makes an $8 Snes game look even worse.
SenatorBot
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I wonder if Sony briefed any devs on this.
If this hits off well, we could see a lot of devs coming back to port their games over just to be on the Vita due to a $100 cheap console demographic. Otherwise assuming we see this do incredibly well 6 months after it's released, it'll still be a year after that before we see more games being ready for the Vita.
Either way, a few years from now the Vita will be an extremely attractive platform with a ton of games to play the way you want to.
If this hits off well, we could see a lot of devs coming back to port their games over just to be on the Vita due to a $100 cheap console demographic. Otherwise assuming we see this do incredibly well 6 months after it's released, it'll still be a year after that before we see more games being ready for the Vita.
Either way, a few years from now the Vita will be an extremely attractive platform with a ton of games to play the way you want to.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I think they're going to work to ensure the best games don't hinge on the touch pad. Of course there will still be touch based games but the bigger games should not focus on it.
So I'm planning on preordering this as soon as I can...I was thinking play-asia? Is that the best place to preorder something like this, or is there anyplace else you guys would recommend?
If I did go to play-asia, does anyone know when they charge your card? like do they charge it at the time of ordering at all, or do they wait until processing?
If I did go to play-asia, does anyone know when they charge your card? like do they charge it at the time of ordering at all, or do they wait until processing?
lordchompy
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I'm sure Sony will require devs to either make it compatible with DS3, or even DS 4 in the future, or mark on the back of the game box that the game uses touch screen controls and is not playable on Vita TV.
LordBaztion
Member
Interesting but then I think it makes irrelevant the PSVita. Let's say in a couple of years we have PSvita:VitaTV in 1:2, the main platform will be Vita TV. I don't think it can encourage sales of the portable device, in any case, mostly VitaTV sales. Also I don't see either Sony making another portable console just to make a home version to save it. I think this might be the begining of Sony leaving the portable gaming market.
Callibretto
Member
we already have the trailer where they play Soul Sacrifice on VitaTV in full screen
lordchompy
Member
Maybe it ships with a mini TV remote featuring just directional buttons and the four Playstation face buttons.
PS Vita doesn't become irrelevant because there are still some who want gaming on the go. This just expands the Vita market to the cheap home-console market. More Vita devices = More Vita games.
Win-win for everyone who have a Vita device whether it be handheld or Vita TV. Genius really from Sony to save the Vita brand. Cheap-console market is huge, and Sony seems to be on the right track to take advantage. Ouya tried, but failed.
I knew it since House mentioned a living room Vita experience in February! Somehow I had a feeling it would be announced today, I should get a lottery ticket
Did someone tell you the lottery number in February too? I mean "listening" doesn't equate to "lucky" now does it?
Trogdor1123
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Kinda unrelated but have they said when the Bordlands2 version of the game would be coming?
yup def picking one upAt $100, this is definitely worth buying since it can play Vita games.
Looks like I'll be getting a Vita after all.
A lot of Vita games are built around the touch screen, and slapping the Vita label on this thing is going to lead to confusion when the games don't work with a DS3. It really should have been called the PlayStation TV, without the cartridge slot, while still retaining the Vita internals. Sony could then rework Vita titles with the DS3 in mind, and release them in time. I suppose they could patch current software for this device as well, but it's going to be a mess initially.
A HDD-based model would have been nice as well. Even something as small as 250GB would be more than enough for most people.
Good idea overall though. I'll probably pick one up for the remote play stuff alone.
A HDD-based model would have been nice as well. Even something as small as 250GB would be more than enough for most people.
Good idea overall though. I'll probably pick one up for the remote play stuff alone.
It doesn't make Vita irrelevant, it expands its scope from just handheld territory to an extremely affordable home console as well.
The more VitaTVs they sell the bigger the Vita's install base will be overall which means more games.