PS VITA TV announced (~$100, Vita set top box - as in it has no screen - for TVs)

Hows the Vita browser?

It supports several streaming sites now but in truth, it works very well and fast as a browser. For a little portable device, the web browser easily beats the PS3/360 browsers by a long show in terms of multi function and speed. I use it all the time at home on wifi or at work on 3G. I don't expect that to change with Vita TV.

The browser is a definite weak point. Vita browser loads pages slowly and it likes to reload pages if you have more than one open and you flip between them unless they are trivial. Also, won't load some larger pages at all. It has appearance as though it's not being given enough memory, even though Vita has more RAM than PS3 (not directly comparable since different instruction set architecture). After some update this year it even no longer remembers how far you have scrolled down when you manually reload a page, and is having trouble reacting to within-page jumps (e.g., for GAF it will no longer autoscroll to the particular post if you click on newest unread post). It also has some display issues with text, where often letters will not appear or are cut off - i.e., the letter ell can readily disappear entirely. The zoom function only works on some pages. Recently, it has had weird display issues with some graphical elements where they flicker and change size making whole page unreadable. The Vita browser crashes fairly often. PS3 browser is all around much better.

I don't understand why people are excited about this, can someone explain? Am I missing something?

You can now play VITA titles on your TV? Why would you want to play handheld games on a TV when there are console games specifically made for this? Not to mention the fact that VITA has no games...

It's not a Vita. They have a chance to position it as a Roku competitor, but they are way behind. Even so, they are competing in that price range, and some people will get it instead of a Roku on the promise of future capability and because it can do some PS-related streaming. When they are marketing Sony's own music and video services they will be pushing PSVtv.

$5 says this tech will be built into a Sony Bravia TV in under a year.

This is what everyone expected Sony to do. It should still be coming.

I can download a third party podcast downloader and point it to the vita folder that content manager looks at, but there really isn't an easy way to sync content to the vita is there?

There's no easy way to sync. Vita is behind in all sorts of functionality and apps. We still don't even have crunchyroll (that might have been slowed by a negotiation issue). There is hope that PSVtv will lead Sony to strengthening media center capability and other apps.

While they are about it let's hope that they ditch the bubble interface and remove the 100-app cap. I expect only slow progress on these things, because I suspect they've painted themselves into a corner in some ways.
 
Damn.

Do we have any idea if this is import friendly? I'm assuming it'd have the latest firmware which would mean you'd just have to format it to have English, etc.

I have an Asian Vita I bought at launch and it supports English and is region free for games.

I think there are some Singaporeans that use the US store on their Asian Vitas here too.
 

WOW! This is amazing! That's fast. Sold out in a day! Hope they didn't just allocate like 10 pieces of stock or something to create an artificial demand.



I have an Asian Vita I bought at launch and it supports English and is region free for games.

I think there are some Singaporeans that use the US store on their Asian Vitas here too.

*raises hand*
 
PS+ has been calling me to get a Vita but I can't justify a handheld at that cost. Will this thing bea reasonable replacement to play PS+ games and the odd big game. Or do most of the good games not work?

Liking the idea of putting it in my room for Remote Play while the misses has the TV. Does it work for PS3 as well?
 
But Myshkin said they'd all be returned because nobody knows what they're buying.

I said the opposite.

Liking the idea of putting it in my room for Remote Play while the misses has the TV. Does it work for PS3 as well?

It should be able to do remote play with PS3 the same way Vita does. Eventually it should also stream PS2 games with a PS4 once they have the PS2 backward compatibility implemented.
 
PS+ has been calling me to get a Vita but I can't justify a handheld at that cost. Will this thing bea reasonable replacement to play PS+ games and the odd big game. Or do most of the good games not work?

Liking the idea of putting it in my room for Remote Play while the misses has the TV. Does it work for PS3 as well?


Honestly, I'd wait and see what games get patched. Most games don't *need* touch, but have been programmed with touch in, so hopefully Sony at least will patch most of their first party games. Some like tearaway just won't be possible as touch is too fundamental. If this isn't out until feb next year that should give you an idea of what Sony will do with those games.

For remote play, it should work with PS3, but there isn't much to actually remote play except for a few PS3 games (literally 2-3) and PSOne games (which you can play directly on the vita anyway)
 
How do games like Wipeout 2048 and Uncharted: GA work on the device? Aren't the menus controlled via touch screen? Please tell me they are going to patch them.

Also, they better have clear indications whether or not a game works on the PS Vita TV. Imagine people buying games for it only to find they don't work.

Is there any way to have both a Vita and Vita TV and share purchases/saves? I want to get one but I want to still use my handheld Vita.
 
I'm so conflicted as to whether I should go for this or the actual Vita.

Do you like text-heavy games? I find small print easy to read on the handheld Vita while holding it in a natural position. But others say they expect it'll be easier to read text on a large TV.
 
How do games like Wipeout 2048 and Uncharted: GA work on the device? Aren't the menus controlled via touch screen? Please tell me they are going to patch them.

Also, they better have clear indications whether or not a game works on the PS Vita TV. Imagine people buying games for it only to find they don't work.

Is there any way to have both a Vita and Vita TV and share purchases/saves? I want to get one but I want to still use my handheld Vita.

they have limited touch screen solution if you use dualshock 3, press L3/R3 and a cursor will show up that you can move with left/right analog.

of course it will work better if they just patch the game with alternate control scheme with no need of touch/camera feature.

edit: I wonder if the compatible game list they show is complete though, when Vita first launch, it also have this problem with psp compatibility, not all psp games are supported, they release a compatibility list, but we soon learn that there are actually more psp games compatible with Vita, although some you need to transfer via PS3 etc.

I kinda assume this Vita game compatibility list is also not what the real list we'll get, that's my guess anyway
 
I wonder how this'll sell in the west with next-gen systems coming out...I mean I know its not direct competition, but still I'm curious.
 
How do games like Wipeout 2048 and Uncharted: GA work on the device? Aren't the menus controlled via touch screen? Please tell me they are going to patch them.

Also, they better have clear indications whether or not a game works on the PS Vita TV. Imagine people buying games for it only to find they don't work.

Is there any way to have both a Vita and Vita TV and share purchases/saves? I want to get one but I want to still use my handheld Vita.

Those questions are addessed in the FAQ. There is touch screen emulation support. Basically via buttons on the DS3
 
The vita os can be entirely controlled with buttons, this got added in a firmware update.

I just tried to unlock it using buttons, and you absolutely have to use the touch screen to unlock it. So unless they plan to use L3 or R3 on the dualshock 3, or get rid of the lock screen altogether, it aint happening.
 
I just tried to unlock it using buttons, and you absolutely have to use the touch screen to unlock it. So unless they plan to use L3 or R3 on the dualshock 3, or get rid of the lock screen altogether, it aint happening.

My mistake, but I would think they have a way to past the first screen when you start up the console.
 
I just tried to unlock it using buttons, and you absolutely have to use the touch screen to unlock it. So unless they plan to use L3 or R3 on the dualshock 3, or get rid of the lock screen altogether, it aint happening.

Well the unlocking wouldn't be required on the TV would it, so that part can be removed from the OS. It would work like how OSX/iOS removes features from computers/phones that don't support specific hardware. Same firmware, detects specific hardware, adjusts options and functionality.
 
I just tried to unlock it using buttons, and you absolutely have to use the touch screen to unlock it. So unless they plan to use L3 or R3 on the dualshock 3, or get rid of the lock screen altogether, it aint happening.

An OS can have different functionality on different devices, Im pretty sure omitting a lock screen on Vita TV wont have any effect on Vita.

Any future OS concern I have is if Vita itself will be able to sync with DualShock controllers. Is there any technology missing which would prevent this?
 
They should patch some of the bigger games with required touch control so they can be played on ds3. For example, for gravity rush, sliding can use L2, evade with R2, and the finishers with L3 or R3.

Also bundle gravity rush with US/Europe release of vita tv. Let the world know how great that game is so they can start working on a sequel.
 
I just tried to unlock it using buttons, and you absolutely have to use the touch screen to unlock it. So unless they plan to use L3 or R3 on the dualshock 3, or get rid of the lock screen altogether, it aint happening.

Lol they could simply patch that out...

This is definitely coming to america though correct? Really hope this makes it in time for the holidays, would love to couple this with my ps4.
 
I havent invested on any PSN titles but I think I will now along with the fact I'll be able to get some Vita games I want.

Strangely Disgaea 3 isnt on the list of games that will work - hopefully in the future.

Anyways I hope this comes out in the US during the holidays cause if so I'll know what I'll be buying this year for sure!


3DS XL + Vita TV = awesome combo :P
 
This idea makes a lot of sense in that it will make the vita a more attractive option for developers given that the userbase is now Vita + Vita TV, which will eventually help increase Vita sales when more and more games appear on the console.
 
Is there any way to have both a Vita and Vita TV and share purchases/saves? I want to get one but I want to still use my handheld Vita.

Digital purchases are account-based so no problem there. Physical purchases are no problem. You can move saves around conveniently if you have PS Plus.

With PS4 coming out as well, let's see what the new rules are for the maximum amount of devices that can be associated with an account. Hopefully they add at least 1 for PS4. And hopefully the PSVtv will have a separate restriction (or no restriction for the dreamers;).
 
They should patch some of the bigger games with required touch control so they can be played on ds3. For example, for gravity rush, sliding can use L2, evade with R2, and the finishers with L3 or R3.

Also bundle gravity rush with US/Europe release of vita tv. Let the world know how great that game is so they can start working on a sequel.

This is what I figure they will do, especially given how large the userbase is going to be after the holiday rush, the whole back catalog will get a nice boost. As I mentioned in the other thread, golden abyss would get a good bump if it launched in Eu/NA this holiday, they could just make grenades go to L2. The charcoal rubbings could be sixaxis shaking or something along this lines. I can't imagine any devs are going to want to miss out on the possibility of potential sales with a simple patch. Tearaway looks to be one of the biggest roadblacks given how strongly it seems to support the camera and the touch controls. They could rework it somehow though I'm sure.
 
Ass Creed Liberation just got announced (HD) for consoles and PC.

I guess this new version has the touch and camera stuff ripped out, so there's your design template for a Vita TV patch.
 
So I can but a VitaTV and buy the best PSP and Vita games and play them without having a vita or psp........amazing if true as it longer requires me to buy a handheld :)
 
A hundred dollars is an unbelievable price for this. Basically a console inbetween ps2 and ps3 for $100 bucks. If they sell this in the US at that price, I think it will do very well.
 
Why not add ps2 support? Technical difficulties I assume.

A all in one psp, ps1, ps2, and vita device should be interesting.
 
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