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WataMote |OT| Depression Moe~
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cj_iwakura
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Was that a vocaloid? Amazing song.
akachan ningen
Member
Ep 8 wasn't that awkward, it was just sad.
cj_iwakura
Member
I related to Episode 7 far too much.
Episodes 8-9
Progress!
Episode 8 was cringeworthy as all hell and fortunately the later episode helped soften the blow with some genuine "character development" in the form of a soul crushingly mundane job and the realisation (somewhat) that she can be a real shit. It'll be interesting to see how this'll end.
Progress!
Episode 8 was cringeworthy as all hell and fortunately the later episode helped soften the blow with some genuine "character development" in the form of a soul crushingly mundane job and the realisation (somewhat) that she can be a real shit. It'll be interesting to see how this'll end.
TheVampire
Banned
Episode 8 was good but at the end when she was sitting on that bench alone they didn't include a part from the manga where she mentions suicide again.
Black-Wind
Member
WUT?!?!
Damn ... i guess I should really check out the manga. This is one of the funnies animes I have seen ... hard to think such harsh materials find their way inside it.
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
Watched the first episode with the wife. Loved it! Really funny, great voice-acting, an amazing opening theme that reminds me of Princess Ghibli (shame the full song doesn't hold up) and a script that has a decent level of pathos. It kinda reminds me of an anime version of Curb Your Enthusiasm.
Has anyone put their hand-up for distribution in the west? I'd like it on Blu-Ray but if that won't come out for a while I'll just watch it on Crunchyroll in the meantime.
Has anyone put their hand-up for distribution in the west? I'd like it on Blu-Ray but if that won't come out for a while I'll just watch it on Crunchyroll in the meantime.
Makes sense to me honestly, I think the anime is more depressing than funny. There are a lot of funny scenes for sure, but, I find myself feeling bad for her more than I end up laughing at scenes. I can kind of relate since I have a tiny bit of social anxiety when it comes to talking to people I don't know at all/very well, it just doesn't effect my day to day activities very much where as for her it completely crushes her life.
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
Cool, thanks. Also, are the manga creators (from searching the web it appears they bare two artists whom go by a nom de plume) female? Just curious.
Watched the second episode. Oh man, the show just keeps getting better. It is a tad predictable but not terribly so.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
So I marathoned all 9 episodes yesterday.
I wasn't expecting this show to be this good. It's really entertaining.
I keep on hoping that at some point she will make some progress and improve but I haven't read the manga so I have no idea if that will happen.
I think I'll hold off on the manga until the anime is done at least.
I wasn't expecting this show to be this good. It's really entertaining.
I keep on hoping that at some point she will make some progress and improve but I haven't read the manga so I have no idea if that will happen.
I think I'll hold off on the manga until the anime is done at least.
Crash Station
Member
Mangaupdates had them listed as female a while ago, but now gender is N/A, so we don't know.
The writer is male and the artist is female.
Crash Station
Member
Did they say that in an interview or something? Or is there a site that lists mangaka genders other than Mangaupdates? Way too many are N/A on that one.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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When does the next episode come out?
It just says "Coming Soon" on crunchyroll.
It just says "Coming Soon" on crunchyroll.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Episode 10 is up on crunchyroll.
I was hit in the feels throughout the whole episode.
I find myself relating to some things in this show which wasn't what I was expecting at all when I first started.
Tomoko just can't catch a break.
I was hit in the feels throughout the whole episode.
I find myself relating to some things in this show which wasn't what I was expecting at all when I first started.
Tomoko just can't catch a break.
Boaty McBoatface
Member
Ep 10
dat OP transition...
This show really needs more love. This originality is missing from so much modern anime, and it is genuinely funny (and horribly cringeworthy, but in a great way).
How many episodes is this going to be? I'm guessing only 12/13 ish
dat OP transition...
This show really needs more love. This originality is missing from so much modern anime, and it is genuinely funny (and horribly cringeworthy, but in a great way).
How many episodes is this going to be? I'm guessing only 12/13 ish
drifter444
Member
Oh I can't take it.
Black-Wind
Member
Hmm? Show seems to get a ton of love at least from places I frequently go.
/vp/ has gifs from this show and threads about which Pokemon she would catch pretty regularly. And /vp/ never talks about anime non-Pokemon related for the most part so that's something.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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So everything is going to be wrapped up in 2 episodes?
Would it be reasonable to expect a second season?
Would it be reasonable to expect a second season?
Black-Wind
Member
This last episode was just sad .... a lil funny here and there but mostly just SAD.
Those lonely habits ...right in my heart (;_
Those lonely habits ...right in my heart (;_
melichrous
Member
Tomoko really is adorable.
It was really depressing, I thought she was getting somewhere at the end too.
:'(
TheVampire
Banned
Fuck this anime is depressing.
In episode 9 where she finds out her new seat is in the middle of the class that was her chance to breakout and start talking to more people! But no she doesn't see it that way.
And I thought that delusion/dream club situation was real for a second.
I still think the sadest is the previous episode where she was crying while watching the stars and there is that writing on the screen showing her thoughts saying "I read in some book that pain and sadness are the spice of life that makes it enjoyable"
"All I get is spice!!"
"I cant make any thing but curry with this!"
In episode 9 where she finds out her new seat is in the middle of the class that was her chance to breakout and start talking to more people! But no she doesn't see it that way.
And I thought that delusion/dream club situation was real for a second.
I still think the sadest is the previous episode where she was crying while watching the stars and there is that writing on the screen showing her thoughts saying "I read in some book that pain and sadness are the spice of life that makes it enjoyable"
"All I get is spice!!"
"I cant make any thing but curry with this!"
melichrous
Member
Fuck this anime is depressing.
In episode 9 where she finds out her new seat is in the middle of the class that was her chance to breakout and start talking to more people! But no she doesn't see it that way.
And I thought that delusion/dream club situation was real for a second.
I still think the sadest is the previous episode where she was crying while watching the stars and there is that writing on the screen showing her thoughts saying "I read in some book that pain and sadness are the spice of life that makes it enjoyable"
"All I get is spice!!"
"I cant make any thing but curry with this!"
Yeah.. And if I'm remembering things correctly, the manga is somewhat darker at times. Haven't checked it out in quite a while.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
This show definitely does a good job of mixing comedy with hitting you in the feels. As of late they are leaning more towards the feels part though.
I'm hoping she can make at least 1 friends before the show ends. I'm also going to hope for a second season.
I'm hoping she can make at least 1 friends before the show ends. I'm also going to hope for a second season.
Are people seriously this sympathetic towards Tomoko?
I mean, she has no redeeming qualities, blames everything on others even though they're perfectly nice, squanders every opportunity she has and most of all has unreasonable and unrealistic expectations of life, failing to learn a lesson from any mistakes.
I get that you can see some small part of yourself in it, and feel bad for a character which is screwed up in that way, but this is too much.
What this character needs isn't a hug, it's a slap on the face and someone to tell her to grow up. Even with anxiety everything would be better if she didn't set herself for disappointments every time.
I mean, she has no redeeming qualities, blames everything on others even though they're perfectly nice, squanders every opportunity she has and most of all has unreasonable and unrealistic expectations of life, failing to learn a lesson from any mistakes.
I get that you can see some small part of yourself in it, and feel bad for a character which is screwed up in that way, but this is too much.
What this character needs isn't a hug, it's a slap on the face and someone to tell her to grow up. Even with anxiety everything would be better if she didn't set herself for disappointments every time.
DigitalRicket
Member
What exactly is a redeemable quality though? I think a slap to the face would damage her even more and make even more of a recluse. Social anxiety is a real thing and its super debilitating because you feel like everyone else around you lives on an entirely different planet than you. And while you wish you could join them you also resent those same people because they're too busy in their own lives to care about you.
No one ever said its logical or reasonable for a person to feel like this but it's real and Tomoko embodies this perfect especially in the way she hates the day to day conversations her peers have with each other.
akachan ningen
Member
You don't understand. Tomoko believes that is she is worthless. That is why she has such unrealistic expectations(because she wants to feel successful) and why she gets mad at every little thing that the people around her do(because she wants to feel above them in some way). Everything is struggle for her because she is desperate to not feel like she is worthless in the eyes of others. That's why she is always screwing up, because she gets so scared about screwing up that she psyches herself out.
Slapping her wouldn't do anything except reinforce her belief that everyone around her is a bully and an asshole.
This sort of behavior happens a lot with kids who are taught that it's not okay to fail and that you always have to appear respectable in the eyes of others.
Even though Tomoko was shaken out of denial at the start of the series and realized that she has to change, it is almost impossible for her because she has a very low tolerance for frustration, which is something common to spoiled kids. Because she can't rise to the challenge, she can't learn any lessons.
Your last comment
Is true. She would have a way easier time if she would just look at things rationally and take her time with her interactions instead of rushing towards a goal. But she has nobody around her to give her this kind of advice. The only person who she talks about her anxiety with is her brother, but like you, he doesn't want to help her because he is too focused on her flaws and wishes that she would leave him alone. If he did listen and really try to help, she might become a better person and not bother him so much. But he's being shortsighted because it's easier.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I don't know. Trying to change yourself sounds like a redeemable goal/quality to me.
She's pretty deep in depression and extreme social anxiety. Expecting someone like that to solve all of their problems easily is an exercise in futility.
And despite the fact that she literally fears talking to people, she still makes attempts at changing even if they are planned on faulty foundations. Can't help but admire someone who realizes they have a problem and tries to change even if they don't succeed immediately. When you have depression, it's not uncommon to come up with reasons for your failure, ones that suit your narrative. It's common when people are distressed or fail at something to retreat to their "safe" place while reassuring themselves. Sometimes Tomoko does that, sometimes she fights against it. I'm not sure how you could miss that unless you've only been paying attention to the things she says about other people and not the times she tries to take a step forward.
I'm going to assume the part about slapping is a joke.
She's pretty deep in depression and extreme social anxiety. Expecting someone like that to solve all of their problems easily is an exercise in futility.
And despite the fact that she literally fears talking to people, she still makes attempts at changing even if they are planned on faulty foundations. Can't help but admire someone who realizes they have a problem and tries to change even if they don't succeed immediately. When you have depression, it's not uncommon to come up with reasons for your failure, ones that suit your narrative. It's common when people are distressed or fail at something to retreat to their "safe" place while reassuring themselves. Sometimes Tomoko does that, sometimes she fights against it. I'm not sure how you could miss that unless you've only been paying attention to the things she says about other people and not the times she tries to take a step forward.
I'm going to assume the part about slapping is a joke.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Just finished watching episode 11.
It's really clear, now more than in previous episodes how much Tomoko craves close contact (her statement about Yuu's hug taking her mind off of her loneliness) and those friendships that everyone around her enjoys.
From the perspective of people without depression or social anxiety simple exchanges of ideas and conversation don't hold any great value. We can see with Tomoko's interactions with the Festial Committee Chairman and Yuu that those simple conversations mean A LOT to her. Just watch her reactions after each exchange. She contemplates how nice it was to communicate and progressively becomes warmer throughout the episode as a result.
Compare this to how she was in the very beginning where she was speaking badly of the students around her. You can also see that she never says such things to people directly because she realizes that she's wrong about them. It's all hot air. It's a way of lashing out at what you see as an unfair situation.
Another potent scene was when Yuu eventually left the school at the end of the day with her friends while waving to Tomoko. There's a reason that that scene was framed the way it was. With Yuu walking into the setting sun with her friends while Tomoko is standing in the doorway with the shadows from the school obscuring her eyes. That's essentially her feelings being visualized directly.
There's more I could say but I'll leave it on this note. With one episode left I really hope that the show leaves on a positive note. If anything perhaps it can serve as some kind of inspiration for people who suffer from depression and social anxiety.
It's really clear, now more than in previous episodes how much Tomoko craves close contact (her statement about Yuu's hug taking her mind off of her loneliness) and those friendships that everyone around her enjoys.
From the perspective of people without depression or social anxiety simple exchanges of ideas and conversation don't hold any great value. We can see with Tomoko's interactions with the Festial Committee Chairman and Yuu that those simple conversations mean A LOT to her. Just watch her reactions after each exchange. She contemplates how nice it was to communicate and progressively becomes warmer throughout the episode as a result.
Compare this to how she was in the very beginning where she was speaking badly of the students around her. You can also see that she never says such things to people directly because she realizes that she's wrong about them. It's all hot air. It's a way of lashing out at what you see as an unfair situation.
Another potent scene was when Yuu eventually left the school at the end of the day with her friends while waving to Tomoko. There's a reason that that scene was framed the way it was. With Yuu walking into the setting sun with her friends while Tomoko is standing in the doorway with the shadows from the school obscuring her eyes. That's essentially her feelings being visualized directly.
There's more I could say but I'll leave it on this note. With one episode left I really hope that the show leaves on a positive note. If anything perhaps it can serve as some kind of inspiration for people who suffer from depression and social anxiety.
drifter444
Member
One more episode left? I don't want it to end
SolarPowered
Member
This scene killed me. It was even worse than the episode with her father. I want to push onwards, but the cringing this girl induces is unbearable. Gonna try and catch up for the finale.Episode 7
The scene with the mother walking in was really painful to watch but it's gonna be nothing compared to next week if it's what I think it's gonna be. *prepares the icepack*
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
Ordered the single containing the opening song from Japan. Absolutely love it (especially with the animation matching it beautifully) but man do the band wish they were Colony-era In Flames, which is by no means a bad thing.
Which raises a point; why the hell doesn't Tomoko listen to Heavy Metal? There is no better self-affirming fuck-what-the-world thinks music. It would boost her self-esteem and the community is very friendly and welcoming of people on the fringe. She should go to concerts and make friends.
Which raises a point; why the hell doesn't Tomoko listen to Heavy Metal? There is no better self-affirming fuck-what-the-world thinks music. It would boost her self-esteem and the community is very friendly and welcoming of people on the fringe. She should go to concerts and make friends.
EvilKatarn
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Bye.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Okay this has been bugging me for a while, whats with the ~ in the title? I see it sometimes related to "anime" things
Boaty McBoatface
Member
Done.
And I want more
And I want more
Lord Ghirahim
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Time to start reading the original I guess.
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