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Quick question about the PS3 version. Since Keyboards are natively supported by the PS3, does FFXIV support keyboard input on the console version? Would be a pretty cool addition.

Yes you can use a keyboard on the PS3 version.

I don't think you can change the UI to be like the PC KB/M UI though.
 
I don't know if anyone's actually done proper testing on it. I do know that it has an effect but the question is how much.

I've been planning on doing a bit of testing with it actually. I need to gather the materials for it though.

http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=179

Also some here, it's a bit dated though https://docs.google.com/document/d/1URtqHK1UhjO6E5hlJLIp-adn0JjPnJbL0mw710gmNjQ/edit

Warrior/Paladin Bros:

I believe the base enmity stance modifiers for shield oath/defiance are too high here (I think they're 1.2x or 1.25x, but I can't find my source on that. Regardless, the multipliers for the various skills match up with my anecdotal experiences in game


 
Because you're supposed to base your whole healing strategy around Cure I and Regen with Freecast/Cure III Crit/Benediction as alts and Divine Seal to make your MP go farther. (Edit: Depending on how often Freecure comes up, you might end up constantly casting Cure I or drop more MP for Cure II and the cast speed becomes more apparent as you try and best manage your MP and try to keep the party alive. At least Bene is free, but can generate a ton of hate and had a pretty long cooldown as well.) Cure speeds end up feeling slow during boss battles with tons of movement so a slightly reduced cast time is their way to offset this limitation of the Job. At least Regen and Esuna are pretty much insta-cast spells.

Also the cooldown on the bump to spell speed is way way way too long and I feel like I end up never using it due to this and it's relatively short duration.
Personally I find I very rarely use Cure III. Not sure if I am missing out on anything because I am not using it but it just seems like a large mana return for a spell that needs people to be clumped up to get the right amount of AOE healing. I'd love to hear from other WHM's to see if I am losing out on a good heal because I am not using Cure III. Reading the theorycrafting threads posted here it does seem like working Cure III in is a very good idea.

I'm guessing that, for WHM, as is found in healing parsing, that crit isn't as good because it usually ends up in an overheal. People are drawn to that big number though for sure and there is always a chance it helps you in a bind. Determination is more consistent than crit as it supposedly decreases the "minimum healed" and increases the "healing ceiling" based on your MND. So with a full MND build, Determination actually increases its returns.
Yea looks like determination actually has very good returns.

On the other hand spell speed has terrible returns:

From ARR official forums said:
(if you really pay attention to spell speed and how fast it increase... ~300 spell speed, cure takes 1.98s; ~400 spell speed, cure takes 1.92s. 3% faster but that's like +100 spell speed...)
 
I think it's an overstated issue. It's not like you can run the dungeon 74 times in a week. A run a day, or splitting your runs between both dungeons will get you all the tomes you need. I don't think that's too much to ask for the rewards you get in the process.

I disagree. It's boring as shit. INSANELY BORING. I mean, if we have hard mode version of ALL the dungeon, and they all gave comparable tokens, then fine. That's enough variety for me to grind this stuff up. When I have to run FF14 in windowed mode so I can watch Netflix while doing token runs so I don't die of boredom then there is obviously a huge flaw. I don't have a problem with the amount, I have a problem with the lack of variety. I mean look at the level up process in this game: Story quests, Class Quests, Side Quests, Fates, Leves, Guildhests, Dungeons, Trials, changing of zones every 2-3 hours. Compare that to end game and you can see how this is night and day worse. This isn't some argument against the effort or amount required, its the complete lack of variety.
 
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I just had an idea.

Can we maybe have a separate thread for the slow/new players? This thread is mostly about endgame/high level content and some of us have been taking our time. The game just came up two weeks ago. Right now it's almost impossible to discuss early game content because pretty much everyone posting here has moved to the endgame.
 
I need to get some materia in my Giantsgall War Axe but Im unsure what to go with. Anyone else have one and meld something onto it? I did a 20str/10vit split on attribute points for warrior and am wondering if I should do something similar with my melds...or just go full STR.
 
I disagree. It's boring as shit. INSANELY BORING. I mean, if we have hard mode version of ALL the dungeon, and they all gave comparable tokens, then fine. That's enough variety for me to grind this stuff up. When I have to run FF14 in windowed mode so I can watch Netflix while doing token runs so I don't die of boredom then there is obviously a huge flaw. I don't have a problem with the amount, I have a problem with the lack of variety. I mean look at the level up process in this game: Story quests, Class Quests, Side Quests, Fates, Leves, Guildhests, Dungeons, Trials, changing of zones every 2-3 hours. Compare that to end game and you can see how this is night and day worse. This isn't some argument against the effort or amount required, its the complete lack of variety.

This is a problem entirely of your own making

You need 8 AK runs to cap Mythology weekly

You can run four dungeons for Philosophy (more, actually, but those give the most return)

And most importantly at all, there's somewhere close to 0 reason to grind full Darklight at maximum speed. You can clear up to HM Titan with minimal gearing (I did it with 0 DL). Titan and then Coil are where the majority of the party need to be in higher gear, but if you want to do that, it's still achievable.

If you're mindlessly farming AK 24/7, that's your problem, not the games. It's a new mmo, it's not going to have the breadth of content at 50 as established mmos period. This has always been true.

And by doing that, you're ignoring every other combat, crafting, gathering class and all the areas and quests you could be doing instead of mindlessly grinding AK for... some reason.
 
http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=179

Also some here, it's a bit dated though https://docs.google.com/document/d/1URtqHK1UhjO6E5hlJLIp-adn0JjPnJbL0mw710gmNjQ/edit

Warrior/Paladin Bros:

I believe the base enmity stance modifiers for shield oath/defiance are too high here (I think they're 1.2x or 1.25x, but I can't find my source on that. Regardless, the multipliers for the various skills match up with my anecdotal experiences in game

Nice :)

Sword Oath weirds me out - it's supposedly adding 50 Potency to autoattacks but I think that the game is treating it as a separate autoattack worth 50 potency.

And damn, Overpower is so sick. I wish I could that on my PLD :o
 
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On the other hand, keeping new players in the main thread leads to a lot less of the blind leading the blind, and a lot more "oh hey I haven't done that in a while let's go" (at least, if you're on a server with other posters.)
 
Nice :)

Sword Oath weirds me out - it's supposedly adding 50 Potency to autoattacks but I think that the game is treating it as a separate autoattack worth 50 potency.

And damn, Overpower is so sick. I wish I could that on my PLD :o

Kinda, Overpower is nice in some situations, but it has a few really annoying drawbacks - it's a frontal cone aoe, and its very subject to lag and monster movement. It's also expensive TP wise, which means that missing a few on a group of mobs is really punishing, and probably means you have one or more mobs now chewing on the healer.

The worst part by far though is that unlike Flash, it breaks sleep. This means that Flash is probably going to be stuck permanently in my cross class skills instead of another damage mitigation cooldown.

Granted, that's mostly for dungeons, for tougher boss fights I don't need Flash so I can swap it for a different cooldown (... and then you usually don't need Overpower either :D)

If you're in an aoe heavy group that isn't using sleep, then Overpower does shine more - or if you can coordinate with your blms to not sleep until you lock aggro with 2-3 overpower hits on the whole pack - but that's so annoying to do in pugs I just use Flash instead instead of explaining it every run.
 
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The only people interested in posting about the game are posting about the game right in this thread. The other thread would be mostly dead. It's actually kind of baffling how many people are in the GAF FC on Ultros who don't participate in FC chat, this thread, or on the Guildwork site. I wonder why they're even in the group at all.
 
The game is on track to have plenty of level 50 content. I've seen far worse in mmos. It is a little sparse at the moment but that's what you get for racing to 50!
 
The only people interested in posting about the game are posting about the game right in this thread. The other thread would be mostly dead. It's actually kind of baffling how many people are in the GAF FC on Ultros who don't participate in FC chat, this thread, or on the Guildwork site. I wonder why they're even in the group at all.

for the fc buffs!
 
Quick question about the PS3 version. Since Keyboards are natively supported by the PS3, does FFXIV support keyboard input on the console version? Would be a pretty cool addition.

Yes, I use a bluetooth keyboard for the ps3 version. In fact our normal setup is my wife is the one playing the game and I have the keyboard typing for her. :P

Edit: BTW, is character creation open on Utlros again?
 
The only people interested in posting about the game are posting about the game right in this thread. The other thread would be mostly dead. It's actually kind of baffling how many people are in the GAF FC on Ultros who don't participate in FC chat, this thread, or on the Guildwork site. I wonder why they're even in the group at all.

Being a part of the community itself, having the FC tag, being able to ask for help when they need it or outright leeching, or they are lurkers.

I know I post way more on here than I do in the FC chat or the guildwork site for that matter. I post less in chat anyway because I'm usually more focused on the task at hand and am on mumble, where it can be a bit easier to communicate with the handful of people on there when chat is flying by or your attention is elsewhere. I know I pay way more attention to FC chat though during downtime or when I'm either leveling an alt or working on gathering.

Bunch of reasons why they might not participate in any number of areas. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the FC unless they are only there to leech off of others.

Edit: Even now, you don't really see this only because the guild is so large that usually there are people willing to help when someone asks for it and I haven't seen any consistent cases where it's the same people asking for help and not contributing in some way later.
 
This is a problem entirely of your own making

You need 8 AK runs to cap Mythology weekly

You can run four dungeons for Philosophy (more, actually, but those give the most return)

And most importantly at all, there's somewhere close to 0 reason to grind full Darklight at maximum speed. You can clear up to HM Titan with minimal gearing (I did it with 0 DL). Titan and then Coil are where the majority of the party need to be in higher gear, but if you want to do that, it's still achievable.

If you're mindlessly farming AK 24/7, that's your problem, not the games. It's a new mmo, it's not going to have the breadth of content at 50 as established mmos period. This has always been true.

And by doing that, you're ignoring every other combat, crafting, gathering class and all the areas and quests you could be doing instead of mindlessly grinding AK for... some reason.

I dunno. ANY dungeon that you have to run a few times a week gets incredibly stale. Raids don't have that much of a problem since it's a weekly reset, but even spread over 7 days, the 8 AK runs are insanely boring. Shit's on autopilot like Ifrit HM.

The only people interested in posting about the game are posting about the game right in this thread. The other thread would be mostly dead. It's actually kind of baffling how many people are in the GAF FC on Ultros who don't participate in FC chat, this thread, or on the Guildwork site. I wonder why they're even in the group at all.

I swear less than 100 people actually participate in it.

I'm starting to think the Peltast ring and Necklace do not exist. So many runs and no drops ;_;

I have the ring, so I can confirm that. Necklace though? I doubt it, it's all lies.

The game is on track to have plenty of level 50 content. I've seen far worse in mmos. It is a little sparse at the moment but that's what you get for racing to 50!

I didn't really race to 50. This game just makes it insanely easy to get there.
 
Being a part of the community itself, having the FC tag, being able to ask for help when they need it or outright leeching, or they are lurkers.

I know I post way more on here than I do in the FC chat or the guildwork site for that matter. I post less in chat anyway because I'm usually more focused on the task at hand and am on mumble, where it can be a bit easier to communicate with the handful of people on there when chat is flying by or your attention is elsewhere. I know I pay way more attention to FC chat though during downtime or when I'm either leveling an alt or working on gathering.

Bunch of reasons why they might not participate in any number of areas. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the FC unless they are only there to leech off of others.
There are people who are basically just taking up FC spots. Never talk, never do anything with anyone else in the FC, never post here or on Guildwork, don't even respond when a FC-mate says something or emotes at them when they pass by. I guess this would bother me less if the FC wasn't totally full and there weren't people who want to get in who might actually interact with the rest of the group.
 
There are people who are basically just taking up FC spots. Never talk, never do anything with anyone else in the FC, never post here or on Guildwork, don't even respond when a FC-mate says something or emotes at them when they pass by. I guess this would bother me less if the FC wasn't totally full and there weren't people who want to get in who might actually interact with the rest of the group.

They are going to start culling soon, which will hopefully take care of that issue. Me and my wife were on the gaf mumble for the first time last night, twas fun.
 
I think the best part of the game was the early parts..because once you have the best items, there's going to be a patch around the corner where everyone is going to try to get. An endless loop.
 
issue i have is, i have a hard time figuring out which gaffer is which random anime character name.

why join a gaf guild when your in game name isn't remotely similar to your gaf handle ?.?

i know in other mmos you have a 'status' text box in the guild list that you can paste your gaf name or w/e there so people can figure out who is what.
 
issue i have is, i have a hard time figuring out which gaffer is which random anime character name.

why join a gaf guild when your in game name isn't remotely similar to your gaf handle ?.?

i know in other mmos you have a 'status' text box in the guild list that you can paste your gaf name or w/e there so people can figure out who is what.
I put my GAF name in my search comment. Obviously it isn't really intended for that, but nobody actually uses the search comment for anything else thanks to the duty finder anyway. Except maybe for finding melders, I guess.
 
issue i have is, i have a hard time figuring out which gaffer is which random anime character name.

why join a gaf guild when your in game name isn't remotely similar to your gaf handle ?.?

i know in other mmos you have a 'status' text box in the guild list that you can paste your gaf name or w/e there so people can figure out who is what.

I'm Kirito!

you can leave notes in the FC menu. mine has my gaf name
 
There are people who are basically just taking up FC spots. Never talk, never do anything with anyone else in the FC, never post here or on Guildwork, don't even respond when a FC-mate says something or emotes at them when they pass by. I guess this would bother me less if the FC wasn't totally full and there weren't people who want to get in who might actually interact with the rest of the group.

I understand that and do agree that some of these people are just taking up space, but it's hard to differentiate between someone who is more engaged with something else, think they can't really contribute to the FC yet because of their experience level, or just lurk like they most likely do on here. I'm sure this will become much less a problem once people are removed for account inactivity (a pretty good idea) or from the free trial ending.

Now I'm curious at how many people in the FC haven't posted either posted on here or in the FC. Nothing against juniors (I am still a really new member on here anyway), but there was a ton in some of the earlier threads I had never seen before and haven't seen since on here who posted for access to the LS and the FC.

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I put my GAF name in my search comment. Obviously it isn't really intended for that, but nobody actually uses the search comment for anything else thanks to the duty finder anyway. Except maybe for finding melders, I guess.

I'm Kirito!

you can leave notes in the FC menu. mine has my gaf name

I am totally doing this when I get on later today. Btw, I'm Esmerlda Haegel on Ultros. I've kept the same first name through a ton of MMOs since I started playing them with FFXI.
 
I put my GAF name in my search comment. Obviously it isn't really intended for that, but nobody actually uses the search comment for anything else thanks to the duty finder anyway. Except maybe for finding melders, I guess.

Where can I find how to change that? Never seen anything like it and would put my username in there if I knew how.
 
Where can I find how to change that? Never seen anything like it and would put my username in there if I knew how.
Pull up the FC list or social list, find your name, right click -> edit search comment. You can view others' if they have the little speech bubble by their name in those lists and you right click -> view search comment.
 
Kinda, Overpower is nice in some situations, but it has a few really annoying drawbacks - it's a frontal cone aoe, and its very subject to lag and monster movement. It's also expensive TP wise, which means that missing a few on a group of mobs is really punishing, and probably means you have one or more mobs now chewing on the healer.

The worst part by far though is that unlike Flash, it breaks sleep. This means that Flash is probably going to be stuck permanently in my cross class skills instead of another damage mitigation cooldown.

Granted, that's mostly for dungeons, for tougher boss fights I don't need Flash so I can swap it for a different cooldown (... and then you usually don't need Overpower either :D)

If you're in an aoe heavy group that isn't using sleep, then Overpower does shine more - or if you can coordinate with your blms to not sleep until you lock aggro with 2-3 overpower hits on the whole pack - but that's so annoying to do in pugs I just use Flash instead instead of explaining it every run.

You're in Sargatanas Red Dot right?
 
issue i have is, i have a hard time figuring out which gaffer is which random anime character name.

why join a gaf guild when your in game name isn't remotely similar to your gaf handle ?.?

i know in other mmos you have a 'status' text box in the guild list that you can paste your gaf name or w/e there so people can figure out who is what.
A google doc is also floating around out there that has a list of GAF names to XIV names.
 
There are people who are basically just taking up FC spots. Never talk, never do anything with anyone else in the FC, never post here or on Guildwork, don't even respond when a FC-mate says something or emotes at them when they pass by. I guess this would bother me less if the FC wasn't totally full and there weren't people who want to get in who might actually interact with the rest of the group.

As Robokitty has suggested in this very thread, shouldn't your concerns be taken up with them in private?
 
A google doc is also floating around out there that has a list of GAF names to XIV names.
It's sadly very incomplete, but I believe it's in the OP.
As Robokitty has suggested in this very thread, shouldn't your concerns be taken up with them in private?
I'm not going to private message every single person I think is guilty of what I said. There's a lot of them. I'm just venting, anyway. It sounds like Robokitty et al are going to be culling a bunch of people soon, so we'll see what it's like afterwards.
 
I need into the gaf Sargatanas shell already. Maybe Ill look yas up tonight if I remember. I always see you guys running around and try to wave each time.
 
I dunno. ANY dungeon that you have to run a few times a week gets incredibly stale. Raids don't have that much of a problem since it's a weekly reset, but even spread over 7 days, the 8 AK runs are insanely boring. Shit's on autopilot like Ifrit HM.

Sorry, can't feel any sympathy here. All endgame content in every mmo ever eventually goes on farm. Once you've done it enough, you know how to do it, and the only way you're going to wipe and fail to complete it is if you have enough new players in the party/raid to overcome the experience and gear of the veterans.

Your raid point is disingenuous, you're implying that you'd be happier if AK was time locked as a weekly single run? Plenty of people are still using it to gear up with ilvl60 gear in all of their slots (which will easily propel you up to HM Titan, ignoring myth/phil entirely), running it a few times a week for a chance at those drops (and extra drops for other classes) is not a big deal.

SE hasn't cracked the magic code that makes dungeons fun to run week after week endlessly, surprise! That's not a new MMO issue.

If you're already at the point where you're farming AK to cap mythology and have HM primals on autopilot, perhaps its time to take a break from the game? You've beaten the story, you've seen every dungeon, what's left for you to do? Either go see the remaining content in the game via leveling other classes and exploring the world, help some friends, or bail out until they introduce new content! The game has been out for all of a few weeks, and many players here on GAF are still leveling their first 50.
 
in the social or fc menu find your name, right click, edit search info

Pull up the FC list or social list, find your name, right click -> edit search comment. You can view others' if they have the little speech bubble by their name in those lists and you right click -> view search comment.

Thanks both :)

Just a suggestion:

To keep the FC from getting clogged up, maybe make it exclusive to GAF members?

I realise it's a nice gesture to include family and friends, but when you have members of GAF waiting to get into the GAF FC and it's full, it's a conflict of interest, you know?
 
Sorry, can't feel any sympathy here. All endgame content in every mmo ever eventually goes on farm. Once you've done it enough, you know how to do it, and the only way you're going to wipe and fail to complete it is if you have enough new players in the party/raid to overcome the experience and gear of the veterans.

Your raid point is disingenuous, you're implying that you'd be happier if AK was time locked as a weekly single run? Plenty of people are still using it to gear up with ilvl60 gear in all of their slots (which will easily propel you up to HM Titan, ignoring myth/phil entirely), running it a few times a week for a chance at those drops (and extra drops for other classes) is not a big deal.

SE hasn't cracked the magic code that makes dungeons fun to run week after week endlessly, surprise! That's not a new MMO issue.

If you're already at the point where you're farming AK to cap mythology and have HM primals on autopilot, perhaps its time to take a break from the game? You've beaten the story, you've seen every dungeon, what's left for you to do? Either go see the remaining content in the game via leveling other classes and exploring the world, help some friends, or bail out until they introduce new content! The game has been out for all of a few weeks, and many players here on GAF are still leveling their first 50.

Half your post is responding to things I never said. I'm saying that weekly raids don't get overly boring and grindy because they're locked for a week. I'd prefer other ways to get Myth tomes without having to grind through the monotonous AK dungeon several times. I never said anything about putting a weekly reset in for AK. I also never said I had HM primals on autopilot, just ifrit, since it's insanely simple.
 
Personally I find I very rarely use Cure III. Not sure if I am missing out on anything because I am not using it but it just seems like a large mana return for a spell that needs people to be clumped up to get the right amount of AOE healing. I'd love to hear from other WHM's to see if I am losing out on a good heal because I am not using Cure III. Reading the theorycrafting threads posted here it does seem like working Cure III in is a very good idea.

I feel like Cure III is broken for me. Or it just has ridiculously shitty range (4y radius? really? loooooool). I cast it on a melee DPS hoping to hit them all, and it only hits the one I casted it on. And they were not far from each other. I just see no point in it currently due to the mana cast and Medica/Medica 2 work just fine.
 
I feel like Cure III is broken for me. Or it just has ridiculously shitty range. I cast it on a melee DPS hoping to hit them all, and it only hits the one I casted it on. And they were not far from each other. I just see no point in it currently due to the mana cast and Medica/Medica 2 work just fine.
I agree with you. The range is 4 yalms, which is incredibly small. The people basically have to be standing on top of each other, which nobody ever is.
I might use it sometimes when overcure procs, for the crit heal, but it's almost never worth it.
 
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Just a suggestion:

To keep the FC from getting clogged up, maybe make it exclusive to GAF members?

I realise it's a nice gesture to include family and friends, but when you have members of GAF waiting to get into the GAF FC and it's full, it's a conflict of interest, you know?
 
I agree with you. The range is 4 yalms, which is incredibly small. The people basically have to be standing on top of each other, which nobody ever is.
I might use it sometimes when overcure procs, for the crit heal, but it's almost never worth it.

There are some skill like that for a number of classes.
Cover in 1.0 was absolutely necessary for PLD to regain MP. Now, it feels like the yalm range was reduced and the total cover time was drastically reduced. I wish it still had the MP regain mechanic, it would make far more PLD actually use it again.
 
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