New unannounced Capcom game to be shown at TGS 2013 (Itsuno involved)
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Eh, I'd consider it more of a "G" expansion than anything else! There's actually quite a bit of content added compared to its original release.
Sure, they were later cancelled, but I'd consider Mega Man Universe being announced a mere 4 months after MM10 was released in 2010 another exception to the rule. Not to mention Legends 3 that was announced in October of the same year.
Why would capcom make another Devil May Cry game 8 months after their previous one when the previous one was a financial success?
Also, lol, if you think Itsuno is going to head up DMC, you're drunk. If they do announce DMC2, it'll be another in the new series made by Ninja Theory. Did you guys think that game flopped or something?
Because it didn't.
Also, lol, if you think Itsuno is going to head up DMC, you're drunk. If they do announce DMC2, it'll be another in the new series made by Ninja Theory. Did you guys think that game flopped or something?
Because it didn't.
I don't see that. That sounds the opposite of what current capom would do. It sounds more like what fans hope than what will happen in actuality.
I fully expect a new Ninja Theory DmC in 1-1.5years.
Word. Probably spring 2015, DmC2, Ninja Theory, Alex Garland is project lead.
I am gonna say no, capcom forgot new dante faster than Sonic team forgot about silver's entire thing, and that game reconnected itself.
Crossover games
" should we use new dante"
" who?"
...what possible reasoning do you have to make this statement?
Crossover games post DMC:
"Should we use new dante"
"YES!"
And then they did.
It's like you live in a world where Capcom makes smart choices instead of the one where:
-New Dante exists
-LP3 exists
-BoF5 exists...on phones
-New Strider exists...made by shitty devs
etc, etc.
I like your world better. Seems like it'd be nice there.
sixteen-bit
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Is there a mobile version a Dragon's Quarter I don't know about?
I think you mean BoF6.
I bet the new Strider will be fine. I think the bigger question is, will most people who play that game even remember what Strider was?
Hold on,
- Capcom seems to realize where they messed up on that one, and just stopped acknowledging him.
- I think issue is the fact that no one else knew it existed
- You got me on that one.
- eh... give em a chance, aren't they the same devs making KI?
Ah yes, my bad. BoF6, sorry.
Again, you're optimistic. That's awesome. BoF6 was the last straw for me, though. No hype until goods are shown.
Glass Rebel
Member
Realistically speaking, Capcom doesn't have what it takes to save DMC. Itsuno and team might have, but the higher-ups are the real problem here and with Capcom in general.
They haven't made any other crossover games. Where else should he be? It's been 8 months.
Well that's true.
Where else has old Dante appeared? PSABR is more recent than anything else.
Stone Ocean
Member
All right, all done setting myself up for disappointment. Let's go Itsuno.
Replace capcom with so many other Japanese publishers/Devs at the momento.
He should be at least in that weird mobile card crossover thing , but from what I say from the promo art, it was OG dante, OG OG Dante.
Besides Mahvel 3, he is in Project X zone and that Mobile crossoever card thing they announced.
Dude...Project X Zone and those mobile card games aren't made by Capcom, and are sequels to games that are nearly 10 years old where Old Dante was a main character. Marvel 3 was made before DmC was even in development.
What the hell are you talking about right now?
In fact, I've got 20$ says that the next capcom crossover fighting game has New Dante in it, and that's if it contains Devil May Cry characters at all.
Er what? DmC bombed in sales and failed to catch Japanese gamers' attention and made less than its previous iteration, Devil May Cry 4.
It flopped badly.
Marketing gimmick to boost sales for DmC, which didn't work as PlayStation "Smash Bros" bombed in sales too.
Same here, I wouldn't have minded a new Breath of Fire just not for the Mobile market.
Agreed and the question is are Capcom aware of that and are they willing to fix that problem before it's too late?
I would bet you some money.
But that would require the next crossover capcom game not to come out , in at least a decade. And by then we would have long forgotten this.
Like if capcom was doing alright, sure. now capcom ? Sure we could bet, results would not be seen for quite a while.
However atleast as a some type of sporting gesture, I do disagree with that statement
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I'll take that bet.
Dead serious. Remember this post in a couple years.
and let's up it to 60. Loser buys the winner a copy of the game
Jawmuncher
Member
I'm down with that. Subscribed.
Keep in mind, the likelihood that DmC2 by Ninja Theory being annouced before this game we're talking about is EXTREMELY high with the way Capcom has been treating it's fighter projects.
Here's a better question: why wouldn't Capcom continue another DMC game when the reboot a) sold worse than their previous entries and ultimately failed to meet its expectations as a reboot, and b) has an obvious stigma attached to it? DMC2 is one of the best selling DMC game yet Capcom have no problem largely ignoring its existence, just as the fans do.
If DmC was some smashing hit of the year I'd probably concede to your point but it wasn't very much far from it even, which still leaves a bit of room for hope on the possibility that maybe Capcom can go back to the root of the series and continue from it.
Because even if Capcom has greenlit the sequel, which I totally believe they have, It won't be done for another 24 months (people seem to have forgotten that DMC was released in JANUARY). Why announce a title with such a spotted PR history 18 months before you have anything meaningful to show?
Jawmuncher
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But this is new capcom. They have killed franchises off for less.
They could easily feel that DMC as a whole is finished. Dino Crisis 1 and 2 alone were some of Capcoms best sellers and the failure of 3 sales wise pulled the plug on that whole franchise.
I'm just talking in a general sense here though. Not saying I don't want more DMC.
Let's fucking go. This is what I came to see.
Glass Rebel
Member
I think the peeps at Capcom should be declared clinically insane if they can't see that their current course isn't going to cut it, especially after bomb after bomb after bomb after bomb.
Augemitbutter
Member
Capcom vs SNK or Dragon's Dogma 2 and i will kiss him.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I'm just putting my money where my mouth is. I think Capcom has learned their lesson and that the redesign didn't go well for them.
So basically I'm betting that there will be a DMC5 before the next crossover, or no new DMC game and they'll just use DMC4 Dante and Nero as a step up from the DMC3 characters in Marvel 3.
If they don't, I'll gladly pay up. It'll be the last 60 dollars of mine that goes to this company that refuses to learn from their mistakes. DmC , Lost Planet 3 and RE6 underperformed. If their take away from that is to double down on this strategy of pouring all internal R&D into one or two titles and outsourcing the rest of their IPs to the west, then they probably won't have much to offer me going forward.
Aw, you guys. Thinking Capcom will make another crossover fighting game.
So cute.
Well I've bet cash now so knowing my luck this Itsuno game will be DmC vs Capcom
You're welcome...?
I think the more likely scenario is that DmC, by hook or by crook, has been deligated to a B-tier status. Let's look at Capcom's projections for the next 3 years. Dead Rising 3 this year, Deep Down next year, Dragon's Dogma 2 for 2015 (because I don't think they can afford not to turn that IP into a franchise at this point), that means they need spring games for the next 3 years. 2014 will probably be filled by SF4:Ultra, 2015 by DMC2 and 2016 by something that's going to get announced at TGS or e3 next year. If the rumors are true and Capcom really is burning their franchises prior to this generation, they can't afford to have franchises that have notoriety simply fade away, even if that means sticking with something like DmC that split the fanbase.
Getting back to the topic on hand though, and with all that being said, It would be super interesting if the game announced next week is something brand new...but I think Capcom is too scared of that right now.
Meanwhile, that Shante Kickstarter is still going on while it could have been a Capcom game for chump change...but whatever.
Aw, you guys. Thinking Capcom will make another crossover fighting game.
So cute.
Marvel did well enough that I think they won't take the idea off the table.
Now it being announced, it being good, and Capcom having a meaningful long term plan for it are 3 separate things.
I'm maining Noriko and Tripp.
I mean, let's not get it twisted, the thing I'm betting for isn't something I necessarily want, I just think it's the more likely out come. Itsuno taking the reigns wouldn't be a bad thing, it would probably mean DMC2 or DMC5 or what have you would be pretty great...but I can't see that happening when Ninja Theory has the assets and ability to make a sequel on the cheap in a relatively short amount of time. Businesswise, it makes more sense to go back to Ninja Theory, even if (and i'm not saying they will) they send Itsuno to america to frontline the project.
Keyword in my post: "sequel" not "expansion".
And too be fair, they only did that because they rushed Vanilla Marvel out the door. Like I said, the game being announced, it being good and Capcom having a long term plan for it are 3 very different things.
I wasn't talking about DmC the reboot, but DMC the original franchise.
And, well, it's not like they haven't done this already with MvC LOL. But to be fair there were probably license restraints there.
Yeah, that's true. I guess I'm just more hopeful than anything since nothing's been said outright and the window is still a tad bit open.
Either way, I think it's the same thing. At this point, it'd be so far out that they only they could meaningfully do is some sort of "darkstalkers aren't dead" type mess...but then, we all know how that turned out.
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Retro_
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Fair enough. Even though I disagree I respect that argument
but I mean that's not even what we're betting about really. We're betting about Donte's inclusion in a crossover fighting game that may or may not ever happen.
and to me the bottom line is that DmC Dante is an unpopular character design and Capcom knows this. So I don't see him repping the franchise in any crossover stuff any time soon. Doesn't make alot of sense to put in a character no one wants to see in a game about seeing a your favorite characters included. I think that dictates character choice more than anything in those games.(which is why Wolverine and Magneto had their 90's cartoons suits, and DMC3 Dante and X Zero were in over their more recent incarnations in their newest games)
KingJ2002
Member
Not going to happen.
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/04/18/capcom-adjusts-forecasts-following-canceled-games-revises-strat/
Capcom halted overseas game development due to quality issues
it explains why Lost Planet 3 was just thrown onto shelves with little to no promotion.
This gen... expect Capcom to go back to the company's old ways.
No, you're right, that is the bet.
My point is that I think that Capcom will spend more time salvaging the Donte brand (and I will here on dub it because it's less confusing) because making games within that brand is fiscally easier for them then having their internal teams start from scratch on a sequel that wouldn't be finished for god knows how long. Even if they wanted to do that, it makes more sense for them to still have DonteMayCry2 come out and be heavily marketed while the game that harkens back to the game's origins is being made. And one of the steps they'll have to do in the meantime is market it, and their favorite way of doing that is through inclusion for other games.
So yeah, the bet is Donte being in the next Capcom crossover fighter. Loser buys the winner the game.
I don't think they can afford to do that at this point. Their next 3 games would have to sell COD numbers for that to happen.
And yeah, that cancelled all their outsourced projects...for a while. Remember Dead Rising 3 is still being made by Capcom Vancouver, which WAS bluebox studios. I think Capcom will take less risks in the future working with unpolished foreign devs (BlueBox wasn't polished either at the time), but with a project as big as DmC it doesn't make sense to toss it all out because the internet finds it upsetting, not unpopular.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Doesn't it also have some of the original staff from 2 on the project?
To be fair, doubleHelix is 10 times the developer Spark Unlimited ever was. And Ninja Theory's games, DmC not withstanding, were really good for what they were.
The lead on strider 2 is advising.
So.....not really...
That's... not very comforting when "10 times" above Spark Unlimited is Front Mission Evolved/Silent Hill Homecoming quality.