I pirated 360 games and MS banned me, what the hell?

Also, even if he is wrong and stuff, Microsoft should transfer what he bought to another account.

I don't think he should get his stuff transferred to another account. If he deserves to be perma-banned, he should never be allowed access to Live again. He should have the ability to re-download his already purchased titles, though.
 
The sign said it was see to another country and these people didn't do it from that country, so yeah based on MS rules it is indeed stealing as the offer wasn't for them.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am not a us resident and I buy stuff from amazon through a courier service. Guess I am a fucking thief then. See y'all Gaf. I am turning myself in.
 
The sign said it was free to another country and these people didn't do it from that country, so yeah based on MS rules it is indeed stealing as the offer wasn't for them.

My initial response:
This is false equivalence. If a store makes a printing error in a sunday ad, giving away free games, and people take advantage of it, those people are generally not banned from the store. They could be banned, sure, but most stores will eat the loss because they recognize that it was their mistake. Moreover, the store doesn't go into your home and take every item you've ever purchased from them after the fact.

This is not stealing. Apparently, some people in this thread don't know the difference, though.

To drive home the point further, if I got my free game because a cashier rang me up incorrectly (the equivalent of the XBOX Marketplace allowing a regional exploit), I shouldn't be banned.

I didn't even do this Oman thing, but the analogies in this thread are really bad.
 
I never understand this defence, its like saying its OK to steal games from a store because they left the door unlocked, and then saying "well another store didn't press charges, so why should tis store?". If I leave my house unlocked, yes its my mistake - but it still isn't OK for people to walk in and take what they want.

If you break the rules, then there is always the chance you will get punished - its really that simple, and its the very reason on all of my accounts that contain items that cost money - I don't break the rules.

Is it shitty the person (or people) got banned, sure it is - but if you take the the chance and break the rules, then you have to accept you may get something shitty in return.

Oh my god. You're comparing legally downloading a free license for a digital game with invading private property to steal whatever you want? Fucking really? Apologizer.
 
Why did ABSOLUTELY NO ONE else reported that they actually got banned in the Oman thread? He probably wasn't the only person to have taken advantage of the mistake, yet it appears he's the only one banned, so how could it be the ban's reason?
 
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So weird, in the year 9999 we're going to have 31 months!
America is one of the only country that still use Month/days/years
 
That Digital future. Make some of you stay there :- You always have something to say about being the victims fault till it happens to you.

There is categorically NO reason why a consumer should be barred from accessing their purchased content on any service at anytime. NO MATTER WHAT.

Break the TOS = A ban from live and the marketplace,outside of a aways accessible download list of purchased content. Cool.

Not, you broke one of the rules = You are banned and can never play the games your purchased again.

Some of you are vindictive, mean spirited and generally badmind to even suggest such a thing.
 
Not to be a dick, but you probably shouldn't have created a fake account and stole shit off of the marketplace that you weren't entitled to.
 
If you broke ToS you're probably not going to have any luck when you contact them.
You won't have any luck with MS 'support' either way. I had an MS support person tell me that debit cards straight up don't work with Live. I found out later that this is bullshit.

MS= 'We don't care about you, fuck you.'
 
My initial response:


To drive home the point further, if I got my free game because a cashier rang me up incorrectly (the equivalent of the XBOX Marketplace allowing a regional exploit), I shouldn't be banned.

I didn't even do this Oman thing, but the analogies in this thread are really bad.

Oh, the irony of this post. An equally awful analogy. An incorrect ringing up by a cashier =/= knowingly exploiting a loophole illegally. An actually accurate analogy would be walking into a store and taking a game that was unknowingly left unlocked, but that'll likely soar far above your head.
 
He still has access to his content, he just doesn't have access to the Xbox Live network.

And he was clearly banned for gamesharing, which seems like a totally ban-worthy offense.
 
Not to be a dick, but you probably shouldn't have created a fake account and stole shit off of the marketplace that you weren't entitled to.
And that should mean he can't play any of the legitimate games he's paid for in the past? Nah.
He still has access to his content, he just doesn't have access to the Xbox Live network.
Edit: I thought he'd lost access to it?
 
I guess I should also note that MS are beings asshats for doing this to you, but still man. You had to know that wasn't right when you did it.
 
Would be nice if Major Nelson would look into this. Banning for the Oman thing seems really extreme.

Given that no one else has reported being banned for the Oman thing and the OP seems to have admitted to game sharing in the Oman Exploit thread, it's far more likely the OP was banned for game sharing.
 
Oh, the irony of this post. An equally awful analogy. An incorrect ringing up by a cashier =/= knowingly exploiting a loophole illegally. An actually accurate analogy would be walking into a store and taking a game that was unknowingly left unlocked, but that'll likely soar far above your head.

Not even fucking close.

Exploiting an error in the system is not stealing an item off the racks. There's really no gray area here.
 
Games all gone. Fuck digital, physical disc all the way.

Physical discs can get destroyed, what if your house burns down? What if you're robbed? There go all your games. If my console is stolen my next console will still have access to all my digitally purchased games. There are pros and cons to both systems.
 
Its a problem with online digital purchases. Customers have no rights. You gave them money in exchange for products yet they can take them away any time they feel like it and can also write the laws...they don't have to answer to anyone.

Pretty much this. Number one reason why I always buy retail when I can.
 
Can only speak for Valve, but I can't think of any specific exploits that mirror the Oman stuff.

Well I frequently get people to gift me US versions of games on Steam to get around Steam regional pricing.

I guess you could call that an exploit.
 
And that should mean he can't play any of the legitimate games he's paid for in the past? Nah.

ToS exist for a reason. Read them. Know what you can and can't do and what the consequences will be if you violate them. No one to blame but yourself for ignorance.

Not saying I agree, just saying those are the facts.
 
Given that no one else has reported being banned for the Oman thing and the OP seems to have admitted to game sharing in the Oman Exploit thread, it's far more likely the OP was banned for game sharing.

Oh, whoops. That's what I get for skipping right to the last page of the thread.

Glad to hear the ban was reasonable.
 
To drive home the point further, if I got my free game because a cashier rang me up incorrectly (the equivalent of the XBOX Marketplace allowing a regional exploit), I shouldn't be banned.

I didn't even do this Oman thing, but the analogies in this thread are really bad.

So you added another bad one?

Microsoft didn't forget to charge him for the games, they didn't charge him because he pretended to be in a different bloody country. That's a tad different. Your analogy would be more apt if you presented fake ID to the cashier and that's how you got the product for free. Which... would probably get you into a whole mess of trouble.

Even besides that, the Oman thing is very unlikely to be the reason he was banned, considering the things he's implied and just applying the common sense that shows that nobody else was banned for the Oman thing.
 
Like I said - miles above your head.

*shrug* You can be as overtly dismissive as you want. That doesn't make me wrong. It just makes you unable to articulate yourself.


So you added another bad one?

Microsoft didn't forget to charge him for the games, they didn't charge him because he pretended to be in a different bloody country. That's a tad different. Your analogy would be more apt if you presented fake ID to the cashier and that's how you got the product for free. Which... would probably get you into a whole mess of trouble.

Even besides that, the Oman thing is very unlikely to be the reason he was banned, considering the things he's implied and just applying the common sense that shows that nobody else was banned for the Oman thing.

I can see the merit of the ID thing. That makes a bit more sense to me, I suppose. The whole "stealing" thing is still silly.
 
Physical discs can get destroyed, what if your house burns down? What if you're robbed? There go all your games. If my console is stolen my next console will still have access to all my digitally purchased games. There are pros and cons to both systems.

If i were robbed my physical games would be replaced. However when my 3DS was stolen all my games were completely gone for good with no way of replacing them.
 
Its a problem with online digital purchases. Customers have no rights. You gave them money in exchange for products yet they can take them away any time they feel like it and can also write the laws...they don't have to answer to anyone.

This is true, which is why I find it pretty strange how gaming sites never really talk about it/complain about it, sure we get the odd EA/Origin story when something major happens (SimCity), but this is something that should be talked about a lot more (more so considering how big some of the digital markets are).

A good example of digital rights being ignored by the gaming press is, earlier this year it was announced in the UK that new laws would be getting added to aid consumer rights with digital products, to make it so we can get refunds and compensation for various reasons (current laws don't actually cover these despite what some think).

You know how many gaming sites covered a pretty big change in digital gaming rights in the UK? - none.
 
Wow at all the people assaulting the Oman thing so furiously while completely ignoring all other developments of this thread.
 
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