I pirated 360 games and MS banned me, what the hell?

He couldn't get banned for the Oman thing, since it was a glitch. You're not stealing if something glitches up and you take advantage of it.

That's a fun rationalisation :-)


I mean, you're not *stealing* anyway, since that's explicitly tied to taking a physical product. Something more akin to fraud.
 
Get banned because Microsoft fucked up and you lose ALL of your 50+ games, DLC, etc? i see people defending this lol. Holy shit wtf NeoGaf.
 
He couldn't get banned for the Oman thing, since it was a glitch. You're not stealing if something glitches up and you take advantage of it.

He most certainly can be banned for a glitch.
1) Exploiting the system is against the TOS.
2) Misrepresenting/falsifying your data is against the TOS
 
http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/f/41.aspx

First 2 pages with account suspension... Hm.. And all recent. Like last couple of hours.

Took at look at the first five or six - attempting to extract info from other players, modification of avatar, cheating (software/hardware/account mods), unauthorized transfer of Xbox Live account (not sure what that is), and one 'my son's account was banned' that turned out to be for cheating.

Yeah...such a pandemic of account bans for the same thing.
 
"I broke TOS and now I'm banned. Waaaaah"

I have no sympathy for online bans. Especially on Xbox Live - It's not often that they are handed out incorrectly. You did something wrong and you were punished proportionally for it. You can still play your games offline.

Take responsibility.
 
Console banned.

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Oh, d'oh. I can't believe I missed that.
 
"I broke TOS and now I'm banned. Waaaaah"

I have no sympathy for online bans. Especially on Xbox Live - It's not often that they are handed out incorrectly. You did something wrong and you were punished proportionally for it. You can still play your games offline.

Take responsibility.

hope it never happens to you.

Break street date and you may get banned too. Fifa hack? banned
 
Hah.... and companies want us to go all digital, and always online? Screw that. I'm glad to have my offline, physical copies.
 
Get banned because Microsoft fucked up and you lose ALL of your 50+ games, DLC, etc? i see people defending this lol. Holy shit wtf NeoGaf.

Don't feel any pity at all? When you buy alot of digital shit, you are taking very risky chances when trying to exploit the system. I guess the OP learned the hard way.
 
Get banned because Microsoft fucked up and you lose ALL of your 50+ games, DLC, etc? i see people defending this lol. Holy shit wtf NeoGaf.

I see this justification for fraud/exploitation all the time and it's bullshit IMO.

Just because Microsoft (or anyone else) fuck up does not give you the right to exploit and take advantage of that fuck up.

In some countries it can be illegal as well as being against whatever the service ToS is.
 
I don't know what's funnier, the question or the answer.

i would like to know why my other account (TryBioEdits) got banned till 31/12/9999 when my dad is always whatching me play and tells me to block people that swear


This Xbox LIVE account has been permanently suspended due to unauthorized modification of your avatar

- Altering the appearance of your avatar beyond legitimate parameters

Now I want to know WTF he did with his avatar to warrant a permanent ban.
 
"I broke TOS and now I'm banned. Waaaaah"

I have no sympathy for online bans. Especially on Xbox Live - It's not often that they are handed out incorrectly. You did something wrong and you were punished proportionally for it. You can still play your games offline.

Take responsibility.

I agree that ban whining in general is crap. The problem is he can't download any previously purchased content that's not currently on his hard drive. You can play your stuff online, but only if you've already got it downloaded. If not, you're out of luck. That seems like a legitimate issue to raise.
 
OP is not providing the full story.

Console bans are a lot harder to get than account bans. Either he's been cheating using hacks, pirating or doing some sort of payment fraud. Hardware bans are serious.
 
Scary shit. and they have right to do it.

The worst part is customer service won't even tell him why. I don't care what OP did, customer service should at least point to a specific part of TOS and specific conduct that isn't some generalized violation if they're going to deprive you of content you paid for.
 
I don't know what's funnier, the question or the answer.






Now I want to know WTF he did with his avatar to warrant a permanent ban.

Modifying your avatar in ways the normal avatar editor doesn't allow (purple skin, whatever) is a sign of console hacking AFAIK. So basically they figured out his console was hacked so they banned him.
 
I don't know what's funnier, the question or the answer.






Now I want to know WTF he did with his avatar to warrant a permanent ban.

Avatar banning typically happens when people actually hack their avatar data to change their skin color to blue or other crazy stuff. It's not that he changed his avatar, or used a glitch to change it, they actually had to hack the data. That's the kind of stuff that gets a perma.
 
Now I want to know WTF he did with his avatar to warrant a permanent ban.

Probably changed his skin color to green.
Apparently it's not a ban for changing their avatar, it's for using the program that does it (which can do a lot worse).
edit:ninja'd! Aw man, the 'why was I banned' site is gone? :/
 
You knew what would happen if you did the Omen loophole. That's why I stayed away. Seems like you blaming MS for banning you. You broke the TOS. Sucks to be you
 
Physical discs can get destroyed, what if your house burns down? What if you're robbed? There go all your games.

Homeowner's Insurance.

I had my GCN and games and Dreamcast and games stolen in 2002 (apparently thieves don't care too much about NES/SNES/Genesis/etc.), and Homeowner's Insurance covered the cost of replacing all of it.
 
That's why you wait to get games till the street date like the rest of us, and don't hack other games either, jesus, how hard is it to understand

Breaking street date. What an egregious violation. Burn his account, console, and legally bought games.

And as for the Fifa hacks, he's specifically referring to people who have had their own accounts hacked and banned, I believe.
 
So, let's put this Oman theory to rest. They have no way of proving you're not a resident of Oman or that someone you know is a resident of Oman and created an account on your Xbox. They can never prove this.
 
Breaking street date. What an egregious violation. Burn his account, console, and legally bought games.

And as for the Fifa hacks, he's specifically referring to people who have had their own accounts hacked and banned, I believe.

Why risk it, just wait till it comes out, god damn
 
Now I want to know WTF he did with his avatar to warrant a permanent ban.

The key part is the 'beyond legitimate parameters' thing. That's things like unusually coloured skin tone, I believe. As I understand it, that's only doable with a hacked console.

It's not really the avatar itself that gets Microsoft's notice, it's the fact that the user is effectively parading around with an advert on their head stating "I have hacked my console". Funnily enough, they regard that as banworthy.
 
OP is not providing the full story.

Console bans are a lot harder to get than account bans. Either he's been cheating using hacks, pirating or doing some sort of payment fraud. Hardware bans are serious.

And if it was for simply getting one free game for one console via Oman style there would be a thread on GAF about being perma banned, along with a thread at the Cheap ass gamer forums as well.

I'm not really getting the mystery aspect of this thread. OP was banned for sharing games with multiple people, something else entirely, or a bit of both.
 
So, let's put this Oman theory to rest. They have no way of proving you're not a resident of Oman or that someone you know is a resident of Oman and created an account on your Xbox. They can never prove this.

Geo-location via IP address is actually quite easy.
 
Homeowner's Insurance.

I had my GCN and games and Dreamcast and games stolen in 2002 (apparently thieves don't care too much about NES/SNES/Genesis/etc.), and Homeowner's Insurance covered the cost of replacing all of it.

Yeah, I'm surprised how many people don't know about Renter's Insurance.
 
I do not think it is right they outright ban your console and do not let you download your already bought games, but if you broke the TOS then being banned from online play is fine by me.
 
You knew what would happen if you did the Omen loophole. That's why I stayed away. Seems like you blaming MS for banning you. You broke the TOS. Sucks to be you

Please show me the hundreds or thousands of people that got banned for this.

Eh, don't cut corners and try to get free games from a territory in which you don't reside and your online account will be fine. The OP has himself to blame for this.

Good thing that isn't ban worthy apparently.
 
Something just does not seems right in here, fellow GAFfers.

As for OP, I know you are upset but knowledge is power so you should always read the TOS, this goes for anything, from using their Online Services to buying games digital and so on. I know there's a lot to read there but in the end it's up to you to Accept it or not.

This is almost an impossible feat. A recent study showed the average user would be required to take a month each year in order to successfully read all the TOS agreements they agreed to : http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...d-need-to-take-month-off-work-each-year.shtml
 
Oman is a country in the middle east, I'm guessing MS where giving away free games to people who lived there so if you changed your region or something you got a free game (shot in the dark).

Correct. I don't think this is a legit store fuck-up but a promotion and people changed their accounts to get the promotion on their account. Hence, MS classifying it as "fraud" and banning.

Sucks, but I think they should've stipulated it was only for people registered in that country with IP locks or something...
 
This smug "you violated the TOS, so you deserve it" attitude makes me cringe. The fact that people who employ it choose to completely ignore the fact that no other bans for the Oman error were reported along with other things — makes it worse.
 
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