An flag on your account, and a warning that any repeated offenses will result in a ban?
I pirated 360 games and MS banned me, what the hell?
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An flag on your account, and a warning that any repeated offenses will result in a ban?
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Yep. Pretty heavy indications that he was game sharing.
Indeed, can't wait to not own anything we purchase even more.
Again, I'd like someone saying that downloading stuff from Oman was against ToS to prove it with the exact quote from the terms (found here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/livetou).
opticalmace
Member
Ohhhh, okay. I had no idea.
I have a 360 but the only things I've bought online are Trials HD and Trials Evolution.
Thanks.
Yeah well he won't do it again. Microsoft will most likely not see a single dollar from him in the future. Yeah that will show him.
Conflict NZ
Member
Browsing through that ban thread on the Xbox forums it legitimately scares me with some of the flimsy reasoning they have. For example playing with someone who is cheating. In no way should that warrant a permanent suspension and the person losing access to potentially thousands of dollars worth of content.
I think the hostility is at the indignant attitude that they took from the beginning, as if they did nothing wrong and how dare MS do this to them.
Look, it is not like they robbed a bank but they took a risk and they knew what they were doing.
Situation sucks and could be heavy handed, but don't act like there is no reason that this could have happened.
That is why some people are a bit sharp.
Its just as bad to jump to his side proclaiming evil corporations!!
Zumblakladla
Banned
Only thing that i want is transfering stuff i bought and my live subscription to other account. I dont give a fuck about achievements or something like that... Basically I don't want my money go down the toilet...
Yeah, that really bothers me, too. It lets people's imaginations run wild.
SuoGrey
Member
Oh yes, styling, profiling.
Truespeed
Member
There's nothing to prove. They can't prove your not a citizen of Oman who just happens to be living and working in another country or that a relative from Oman is staying with you.
When they give no adequate explanation and I know for a fact they give out bans for stupid, asinine reasons. It's hard not to jump to his side. You need to read that thread where a gaffer got banned for playing a legally purchased retail copy of Halo 4, before release?
Son of Cervantes
Member
Ugh, I did the Oman thing and I didn't even really want the games other than Ikaruga. I feel kind of sick now. I haven't logged onto my 360 in a few days, but I went onto the site and it doesn't show me as being banned...yet.
H_Prestige
Banned
Yeah, I don't get the logic here.
MS allows you to make an account for any region regardless of where in the world you are. So how the hell is it fraud or glitching the system when you do exactly that? If MS has a problem with this, then only allow NA consoles to make NA accounts, etc. You don't give users an option and then ban them for using it.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
You are saying this as if he was the first person that complained about a Ban in this forum withouth telling all the story.
Its really disgraceful they can ban you without saying what you did.
Needs to be transparency for this type of thing otherwise it can be subject to abuse.
Microsoft are the last people I trust to not make mistakes, If I remember correctly in the past people were wrongly banned for supposed cheating.
Needs to be transparency for this type of thing otherwise it can be subject to abuse.
Microsoft are the last people I trust to not make mistakes, If I remember correctly in the past people were wrongly banned for supposed cheating.
Well, how do you know? See my previous post above. The people who prefer to act hostile in this thread are just assuming that it's against the ToS, because it's "shady" and then go all out based on that half-baked assumption. It might be against the ToS, it might be not (and it's indeed probably not, because people don't get banned for these things in general, none seem to have been banned for this particular one and it's not explicitly mentioned in the ToS). And then there's the "willingness" part. It's another baseless assumption about the OP has been using the same logic involving this thing being "shady". What if he didn't know? It's not an inherently bad thing: Sony allows it, for example. And it's not really different from buying something from a different region's store. I, for one, buy all of my digital PS3 games from the US store, despite me being in Europe. Am I also going to get scorn for this?
I understand that taking a moral high ground doesn't require actual research and provides instant gratification, but it's very, very sad.
Such as?
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
They hinted at it in the OP
Attempted MS points fraud
Illegitimate acquisition of redemption codes
Duplication of Item history.
They're basically telling him some type of fraud took place.
It shouldn't be hinted. It should be explicitly stated. Especially if the banning process is as thoroughly investigated as they claim and bannings are to be perceived as some sort of deterrent. There should be no quesions as to why you've been banned.
Zoe
Member
They've reversed bans with complete proof of purchase.
GrumpyOutlander
Member
I have a question about my console licenses, and preventing a banning of my account or console.
I use to have a launch 360 that I got rid of and upgraded to a slim. I transferred my licenses over to my new console, but when I try to download something it always says something like; The license for this content belongs to a different console. I then cancel the download, try again and it works fine.
Does this happen to anyone else? Should I try to resolve this so Microsoft doesn't think I'm trying to share licenses?
I use to have a launch 360 that I got rid of and upgraded to a slim. I transferred my licenses over to my new console, but when I try to download something it always says something like; The license for this content belongs to a different console. I then cancel the download, try again and it works fine.
Does this happen to anyone else? Should I try to resolve this so Microsoft doesn't think I'm trying to share licenses?
When I read stories like this I tend to stop and think what I would do if Valve went mental and decided to block me from accessing my Steam account. It would hurt, I know that much. My profile says I have 96 games right now. All gone, just like that? Even the idea sucks balls.
It's also the reason why I keep all my GoG games downloaded locally, and the advantage of their no-DRM policy.
Deep inside, I secretly hope that Nintendo being so late into the unified account business is because they want to do it right. I imagine that they are trying to figure out how to keep me happy (or calm, at least) when stuff like this happens.
It's also the reason why I keep all my GoG games downloaded locally, and the advantage of their no-DRM policy.
Deep inside, I secretly hope that Nintendo being so late into the unified account business is because they want to do it right. I imagine that they are trying to figure out how to keep me happy (or calm, at least) when stuff like this happens.
Well, if you use iTunes to create a Nuclear weapon you can get your licence removed. Might get your account banned too.
What? Is this shit real?
Sword Of Doom
Member
Yes he did but there should be some gray area don't you think? If the guy really purchased a lot of games and now he can't play any of them that's bullshit. They should send a notice or warn someone first. Not just cut the cord and not even tell you why. They should learn how to treat their customers. It was the same way of thinking that led them to the DRM bullshit and the 24hr check in.
HellsimusPrime
Banned
Not saying i believe the OP's story completely, but microsoft bans people for playing a game before release date. Who knows what other tiny things they ban people for.
They shouldnt be banning for that in the first place. It's not out of the ordinary for street dates to be broken. The assumption shouldnt first be guilt until proven innocent. If they have a way to verify that a copy is pirated, then by all means ban it, but otherwise tough shit. If they want to make sure people dont play a game early, then they need a better grip on distribution.
Well, that's true, but something being against the ToS depends on what ToS actually say. Valve, for one, outright prohibits accessing other region's stores. It's enforced by an IP block and an account ban if you use a proxy to circumvent it. This is stated explicitly in the Subscriber Agreement:
I wasn't able to find anything similar in the Xbox Live Terms of Use.
Is this disapproval or what?
Valve never directly lock you out your account though, You can be banned from the community, and banned from purchasing new titles, but your account itself will always have every game playable
No since many people have multiple accounts set for different regions on PS3.
See, that's what I call fair play.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Not exactly but when you use the defense of "He didn't know" you generally don't attack the other people arguments with "lack of research"
This page lays out the reasons for temp and perma bans.
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-...feedback/account-suspensions-and-console-bans
this part is about console bans.
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-...feedback/account-suspensions-and-console-bans
this part is about console bans.
Truespeed
Member
That's probably because you need to spoof your IP address in order to buy something from another country on Steam. Spoofing is a violation of their TOS. But, there was no spoofing done here so it's not like it was a violation by tricking their servers you were based in another country.
Oh I agree, I've been an xbox live ambassador for years and I get ranted at by a lot of angry customers that don't know what's going on and why I can't supply them with the direct answer. Before they changed the forum over they used to reply and tell you exactly what you did but sites like whywasibanned.con became popular and people complained about being ridiculed. Now you only get canned response.
Yeah,valve are great in regards to bans, for example, scammers get their account banned from trading etc, but can still play, if you cheat on a online game, its only that game you'll be banned from, the others are fine.
One of the few digital distribution services I trust
Why would downloading from Oman or another country or whatever violate the ToS? Microsoft need to get off their high fucking horse. Gamers download shit from different regions all the damn time on other platforms without this sort of anal strictness. Savvy gamers who usually get in for deals like this tend to also be the core gamers who buy the most games legally too. Don't dick over loyal customers just because they found a minor loophole that gives them better value for money or a free game or two. Take for example the OP, guy has 50+ legally purchased games, and has probably made these companies a lot of money. And yet they're stamping their foot over a free game or two.
Since there were probably thousands of people who do the oman thing and the op is the only one banned so far.. I doubt that was the reason.
Sword Of Doom
Member
And that's how it should be. I just find it strange that a company can just take away from you what you purchased and is yours. And of course some cases might warrant that kind of reaction but to punish any violation of terms of service with such severity is not good business. Especially when you're selling a product geared towards young people.
You have your answer.
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