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[Sleeplessnights]

Zumbla, you sound daft.

 

[HellsimusPrime]

Who's going to do the wall of shame of all the posters in here who shat on MS when it turned out they were in the right.

If i had known the OP was pirating i would have never defended him.

 

[Broder Salsa]

That was awesome, isn't there a website that hosts stories of a bunch of good Xbox Live bans?

It has been down for months vote sadly.

 

[Moosehole]

In light of recent evidence, clearly the OP deserved a banning.

Still doesn't change the fact that Microsoft (Or Valve, or Sony, etc) can ban an entire account and all of the properly purchased content on said account without any explanation or recourse.

Does Microsoft get the games back that the OP stole from them? No?

 

[Refreshment.01]

I agree too, I was worried (even to the point of being physically sick, but that's also not helped due to stressing out about life in general at the moment)

I was supicious when OP mentioned his "legit" games, and avoided the questions about the illegitimate games

This is so strange. He pirated software, i can understand that, as human weak to temptation, real life compromises, lack of money, etc. He knew the risks involved in doing so.


But he comes to a forum and under false pretentions makes a topic complaining of the injustice et all and how he will never support products from the brand and how he is the offended part.

That's hypocrisy at its finest.

I don't know ... I feel sorry for that..

You keep replying? No shame i guess. XD

So I expect OP will be permabanned for trying to pull our hair claiming he was innocent and was pirating games?

Shame on you OP.

Not so much because of pirating. But he is fooling people and telling lies. And made a really
pernicious thread out of spite.

Lol, at the dramatic "ÿou no gaffer" post thought XD

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

OP:

 

[8bit]

in light of this thread can I make two suggestions?

1) Ban Marketplace Theft threads. Many years ago like many people here I took part in the Coca-Cola MS points deal and managed to redeem a large number of free points. Looking back on that I realise it was a pretty stupid and careless thing to do given that MS are acting pretty strongly in a number of cases. Looking at the Oman thread I can't see how anyone who used it can think of it as anything but Marketplace theft, it was clearly an error on MS' behalf.

I have no idea what has gone on here, but I do agree with this. I don't understand why it's OK to promote software acquisition by exploiting loopholes in Marketplace pricing/promotions. Leave that to cheapassgamer et al.

 

[Tsukumo]

OP:

someone changed the thread title

 

[jadedcynic]

I'm glad Sony is not this strict. I got Jak and GoW HD for free because of their mistake (tho Jak went to be free in PS+ anyway :lol).

Sony welcomes you.

Enjoy your PS4

PS4turiningon.gif

Sucks.

Welcome home

PSN lets you do all of this and not get banned or anything.

Sorry OP

*Sighs*

What are PS4 suggestions going to do to help the, OP?

Playstation doesn't ban you.

Spoiler

Come to the Dark Side

Time to jump the ship.

Terrible form Microsoft. No reason given, no recourse for appeal.

This is why people shouldn't buy their products.

Next thing they will ban people for buying games! Wait... they did that with halo 4.

Bunch of thieves.

This is pretty harsh if it is just an Oman thing. Nintendo and Sony open their arms. You're safe now...

So MS bans people playing games they buy before release date, downloading and playing a map pack that they put up themselves. What else do they ban people for?

lol I tried to warn people that MS would ban people when those threads about creating foreign accounts to get free games started popping up. The banned a player for playing a LEGIT, legal copy of Halo 4 early for crying out loud, and you thought you'd skate by free on this? Not saying it's right either, it's shitty customer service, but They don't give a fuck.

Welcome to Cerny Computer Entertainment. Cerny PlayStation 4 welcomes you with open arms.

Bad timing M$

Love how people are defending this. This is the equivalent of having all your assets seized for being convicted of Jaywalking.

Fuck em. Imo this couldn't have happened at a better time.

I just want to reiterate that it's bullshit customer service won't even tell you what you did wrong.

Get banned because Microsoft fucked up and you lose ALL of your 50+ games, DLC, etc? i see people defending this lol. Holy shit wtf NeoGaf.

Wait, so your console is banned? You can't play your offline games anymore?

Thats fucked up. Digital future indeed.

Not saying i believe the OP's story completely, but microsoft bans people for playing a game before release date. Who knows what other tiny things they ban people for.

Glad Sony don't do this, but that is some Bullshit!

I've always had both a US and NZ login for the PS3, with my US account usually being for Demos and Trailers and the occasional game that releases sooner and cheaper, and I just buy US PSN cards online.

Way to create more paranoia about your digital system MS, when you could just remotely disable the offending games. I'm happy that I'm going PS next gen, and I'm legitimately concerned about my XBLA collection which contains probably 100ish titles. I replaced the laser on my XBOX 360 disc drive, am I going to somehow be fucked out of 500-1000 dollars worth of purchases at some point in the future? I dunno.

But I'm going mostly STEAM next gen, and PS4 for some cool console exclusives. I just can't do it anymore with worrying about BC and getting banned for fixing your own equipment, or whatever.

How can MS take back games a consumer paid for?

Whats next? They going to break into my house and remove my physical copy of Halo 3?

Sell all of it. Get a PS4

/thread

I thought this thread was very clever Sony marketing but boy was I wrong.

 

[Neuromancer]

I hope I never disappoint The_Monk the way the OP has disappointed The_Monk. In a way it's worse than if The_Monk was simply angry with me; I'd feel like I let him down.

 

[Fracas]

Can someone sum this up? Basically is this what happened:

-OP claims he was banned for dumb reasons
-Detective-GAF finds shady practices by OP
-OP actually pirated 360 games, is no longer fellow gaffer
-Nothing to do with Oman exploit

 

[Mammoth Jones]

OP got taken to Church w/ that title change...

And the Church said: "Amen".

 

[Truespeed]

What a waste of time. This cheater, pirate and liar deceived everyone here. There's only one good thing that came out of this thread - anyone that ever gets banned from Xbox Live and posts a thread about it will now be presumed guilty because they're never going to tell you the real reason they got banned.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

Who didn't see this coming? These threads always turn out this way.

 

[Maxim726X]

Does Microsoft get the games back that the OP stole from them? No?

Nope.

So then the company should have a right to take away what you purchased?

 

[braves01]

I thought this thread was very clever Sony marketing but boy was I wrong.

I object to being on the wall of shame since I still think MS (or whomever) should have to give a more specific reason for a ban if requested, beyond the generalized charges in the email.

and i never suggested a switch to sony products

 

[The Boat]

Soooo... The Oman thing should be safe?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Dat wall of shame.

 

[bill0527]

 

[Tyrant Rave]

Just wondering, does Microsoft actually refuse or deny threads on their Xbox Live Ban Support forum? Or was the OP making that up too?

 

[Dukey]

Nope.

So then the company should have a right to take away what you purchased?

What part of "he can still play them offline" isn't registering?

 

[Hedge]

The_Monk.. why aren't you my boss. I can only imagine every environment being for the better with you working there.

 

[SpoonyBard]

God damn right he does.

Again, two wrongs don't make a right. If he legitimately purchases something and no longer has access to it due to other activity, that doesn't change the fact that he legitimately purchased that content and no longer has access to it.

Eh, it's like a rental service. You don't actually own anything you buy from the Xbox marketplace, it doesn't hold any value on its own. If you read the terms, MS has the right to do whatever it pleases with the content you buy.

 

[Nuts.Pistachio_Nuts!]

I love how the console ban message is 'we won't tell you why you're banned and there is no recourse.'

The very definition of arbitrary. Just imagine, we almost had a whole console subject to this.

Thank gaffers we spread the word on bs to call it for what it is.....

Spoiler

shit =p

 

[HDgaming42]

Obviously the entire argument was based on the fact that he legitimately purchased games and that he was banned for something more nebulous than blatant piracy.

Great, so we're done here?

And you know what- Even if he did pirate 90 games but purchased 10, does he not have a right to the 10 games he purchased?

Oh god, you're not done...

Does he not have the right to connect to the service he's been screwing over? Umm. No. No he doesn't. It's kind of sad that he thinks he should...

If I have a modded console where I download 90 games, I still own the 10 physical copies I purchased. The argument is more about ownership in the 'digital age' than anything else.

So make a thread about that. Defending this guy is bizarre. You know what an acceptable ratio of piracy to purchases is here on GAF?

Zero.

 

[Lucid07]

I thought this thread was very clever Sony marketing but boy was I wrong.

What's funny is most thought that the ban was for the Oman thing because MS weren't very clear about what the ban was for, so it's not really much of a wall of shame.

 

[Aberrant]

Can someone sum this up? Basically is this what happened:

-OP claims he was banned for dumb reasons
-Detective-GAF finds shady practices by OP
-OP actually pirated 360 games, is no longer fellow gaffer
-Nothing to do with Oman exploit

Is this the case?

Does it have anything to do with Oman exploit or not?

 

[fvng]

Can someone sum this up? Basically is this what happened:

-OP claims he was banned for dumb reasons
-Detective-GAF finds shady practices by OP
-OP actually pirated 360 games, is no longer fellow gaffer
-Nothing to do with Oman exploit

thank you for this.

What were the shady practices?

 

[iammeiam]

I object to being on the wall of shame since I still think MS (or whomever) should have to give a more specific reason for a ban if requested, beyond the generalized charges in the email.

They have an entire forum on their website filled with people asking and receiving specifics, though, so they do do it. They just tell you not to ask because they'd rather not have people wasting time telling pirates they pirated or people who whipped it out playing Uno that they whipped it out playing Uno so they're hoping some people will just acknowledge they done fucked up and move on.

 

[HellsimusPrime]

I thought this thread was very clever Sony marketing but boy was I wrong.

This was without the knowledge that the OP was pirating his games.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

thank you for this.

What shady practices?

Piracy.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Nope.

So then the company should have a right to take away what you purchased?

He can play the disc based games and the XBLA games as far as I understand. He just can't log into live anymore.

 

[Trevelyon]

I thought this thread was very clever Sony marketing but boy was I wrong.

Why whip up this bullshit, seriously? Ok, there are a few overly eager beavers here, but they were completely misled. They wouldn't be going to bat for this guy if this guy hadn't been a complete sneak fuck from the start.

 

[Kadey]

LOL title change.

 

[Lucc]

what a backfire.

I do believe MS is in the wrong (at least partly) though. They shouldn't be allowed to deny him the games he bought legally. Ban the console but banning the account is stupid imo.

They should however forward it to the respective authorities and they should deal with it.

 

[Lucid07]

What part of "he can still play them offline" isn't registering?

The part where he cant download games he paid money for I guess.

 

[Maxim726X]

What part of "he can still play them offline" isn't registering?

What part of 'I should still have access to what I purchased' isn't registering?

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Lol. I wasn't going to post in this thread until details could be confirmed one way or the other but I saw this coming from a mile away. Holy shit.

 

[TrueGrime]

As for the wall of shame, sometimes it's best to tread on even ground when all of the facts aren't present. Even if you didn't know all the facts were present. That's the price to pay for taking someone's word at face value.

Almost reminds me of Detective Reddit and that whole fiasco.

 

[EatinOlives]

I thought this thread was very clever Sony marketing but boy was I wrong.

To be fair, I doubt any of the posts you quoted would've been so sympathetic to the OP had he said "I pirated games" right from the beginning, and MS has a history for banning over some pretty weird shit.

This OP, though, was truly shameful, seeking sympathy from everyone and deliberately hiding that he pirated games. Hell, he still doesn't admit it and pretends it's all because of the Oman exploit.

 

[kidko]

If it feels like cheating, it probably is cheating.

 

[chickdigger802]

In light of recent evidence, clearly the OP deserved a banning.

Still doesn't change the fact that Microsoft (Or Valve, or Sony, etc) can ban an entire account and all of the properly purchased content on said account without any explanation or recourse.

True. I do think people should be more aware about this stuff at the very least.

Have occasional ads in the dashboard that warn against piracy.


Now for the rare false bannings. I know mistakes happen, but most companies take these quite seriously and check thoroughly. If you reach that level up the food chain, you done fucked up.

Really curious how many actual false bannings are there.

 

[Fracas]

Is this the case?

Does it have anything to do with Oman exploit or not?

It doesn't. MS goofs like that all the time and gives away free games, and I've never seen anyone IRL on on GAF get banned for it

 

[Valnen]

That was awesome, isn't there a website that hosts stories of a bunch of good Xbox Live bans?

It was whywasibanned.com but it doesn't appear to exist anymore. Hours of entertainment were there too =(.

 

[NTIETS13A_Superiority]

TOS means jack shit. MS is evil and F all digital future. If guy pirated then he should have hidden it better. No regards for ban.

 

[Maxim726X]

So make a thread about that. Defending this guy is bizarre. You know what an acceptable ratio of piracy to purchases is here on GAF?

Zero.

Care to point to a single instance of me protecting the OP?

No? Then come back when you actually have something substantive to add.

 

[Dreaver]

I laughed at the topic title change haha, but I feel sorry for OP. If Oman is the reason it's really stupid. Yeah it's not legal officially, but it's Microsoft who screws up.

Let's say you want walk Walmart and have a shopping car full of goods. You go to the counter. The cashier forgets to scan 1 article and you notice it just before you are about to pay. You have always been a loyal customer Would you say it? I don't think I would, yeah officially it's theft but it's the cashier who screws up, just like Microsoft does here.

If you have always been a loyal customer to those super AAA companies it's really, really a sad and fucked up move to screw you this way in my opinion.

 

[Onion_Relish]

That ether title change
thank you based mods

 

[Dukey]

The part where he cant download games he paid money for I guess.

Because most stores will allow you back in them after you've ripped them off and banned you?

What part of 'I should still have access to what I purchased' isn't registering?

He still has access to his games. You're arguing that he should be allowed the benefits that the service offers after he was banned for being a thief. How you don't grasp the silliness of your own argument is mind boggling.

 

[Terbinator]

>buys gimmicky Kinect camera.
>refuses to buy games.