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I pirated 360 games and MS banned me, what the hell?
- Thread starter Zumblakladla
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razoftblend
Member
Thanks for the summary. If MS caught wind of his modified console, then the ban is more than justified. However, what will happen to the games he purchased through the market place. I know the Omen thing is out of the auestion, but the others? Banning him from using the service is one thing, but taking his legally purchased games is another. He did paid for those, so shouldn't he have acces to those? Like I said, I've never been in such a situation, and this is the best chance to ask.
Don't compare NeoGAF to Reddit - it's completely different.
Our detectives are better!
We don't need this here.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
In my opinion, yes. If he needs to access the service to access those games.
If they are already on his console, then no.
Celestial Mortal
Member
Now we know what the guy was really talking about.
TrueGrime
Member
LOL, MJ. So I see!
ebullientprism
Member
Dat awesome wall of shame. 
Clearly, this is the majority opinion.
Off-Kilter
Banned
CassidyIzABeast
Member
He can still play the games. He just can't go online with them. Think of it as a permanent disconnect from XBL.
From what I understand if you get banned you still have access to any games that are on your console. You lose access to Xbox Live...because you broke the rules of Xbox Live...so why should you have access to games stored there?
Dreams-Visions
Member
What are you even trying to say.
It's called punishment. If OP stole a car they would not just take back the car. They would also give him a fine.
Moosehole
Member
There are consequences for every illegal action. The ToS is available for anyone to read and understand at any time, and the OP agreed to those terms when he signed up for XBL.
He knew what he was doing, he knew what the possible consequences could be, and he did it anyway. If he didn't know, then its his own damn fault for not reading the ToS.
SpoonyBard
Banned
Common sense should have told him to only buy physical games if he had layed pirared games with the same account.
Sadly it is. Things can only get worse with a majority thinking this.
He cant play the games that he hasn't got on his HDD though.
PartyTimeFunTime
Banned
Its called INTEGRITY people!
If a cashier gives you more change back then you're supposed to get, you give it back.
But you cheating scumbags go, "Well it's their mistake, so I'm not stealing."
Sickening.
If a cashier gives you more change back then you're supposed to get, you give it back.
But you cheating scumbags go, "Well it's their mistake, so I'm not stealing."
Sickening.
Fried Food
Banned
Like I said before, he wouldn't have been banned if he did nothing wrong.
Sorry I took me so long to reply, but you can't be serious.
This is where I have a difference of opinion.
Obviously, he should not be able to utilize online gaming or purchasing anything new. But people should still have access to what they purchased over the history of that account.
NTIETS13A_Superiority
Banned
I dislike MS alot (but to be fair, i dislike lot of things) Was needless, true. Other opinions stand.
It's a tricky thing--essentially he still has access to everything physical he bought, and any download titles he purchased that were on his hard drive and licensed to his console (not his account, but his console) at the time of the ban.
Anything he didn't have installed, or any games he had installed that had console licenses on another console, he will be unable to access anymore because he has been banned from accessing the servers that host that content/will validate his account license.
This is something that's sort of up for moral debate, as some people feel MS should be obligated to provide access to their servers indefinitely to download content (Steam does this now; I believe they didn't used to and being banned used to cost you your library, but they no longer do this.) Some people don't. It's also worth noting that pre-180, Major Nelson was claiming that being banned wouldn't prevent you from accessing purchased content on the Xbone, but since that all went sideways we'll never find out if MS was really planning to change their approach at the generational leap or if Nelson was incorrect.
TrueGrime
Member
Er.. what?
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
LOL. What?
Your stance is that OP should have just hidden his piracy better?
I totally agree with you. Trying to exploit vulnerabilities of a gaming system to get free content is the same as pirating. YOU VERY WELL DESERVED IT. I love GAF community because enforces you to be a clean and honest gamer, whichever console you got.
Don't be a fanboy asshole, it doesn't matter the console, it's about actions.
If his legally purchased games are currently on the hard drive of his console, he can play them offline
fvng
Member
Taking away people's legally purchased property is tantamount to theft in itself.
OP is a douche,but that's indefensible. The punishment already happened, he was banned and so was his console.
hilarious. what was the smoking gun proof?
Zumblakladla
Banned
Pirating games and not supporting developers is one thing. But pirating games so you can try and decide to buy if you like, and in the end buy that game is totally different.
If im a pirate, why would have such a huge collection of the games, why would I buy games through XBL etc etc... It just doesn't add up.
All the games I've been playing are legally obtained, and that's it.
I know there's no reason to belive me, so be it, its your choice. If im totally wrong i wouldt post here, Oman account wouldnt be banned, if its because of piracy, only console is banned, not account, because you modified console, not your account.
I know what I'm guilty for and i feel sorry for that, but I know what I'm not guilty for and i want to find out what's the main reason for my banning.
If they told me, look dude, you pirated games, we took yours the end! i will say, ok you're right, but I'm fucking collecting games that i love, and i support every developer.
I know that the most of you don't give a fuck what I'm going to write but that's it.
Someone mentioned, do i feel ashamed? Yes for people telling me I dont belong here and thinking that im taking advantage of MS and shit, but not for opening a thread because Im not banned because i want to try someting before I buy.
That's it.
If im a pirate, why would have such a huge collection of the games, why would I buy games through XBL etc etc... It just doesn't add up.
All the games I've been playing are legally obtained, and that's it.
I know there's no reason to belive me, so be it, its your choice. If im totally wrong i wouldt post here, Oman account wouldnt be banned, if its because of piracy, only console is banned, not account, because you modified console, not your account.
I know what I'm guilty for and i feel sorry for that, but I know what I'm not guilty for and i want to find out what's the main reason for my banning.
If they told me, look dude, you pirated games, we took yours the end! i will say, ok you're right, but I'm fucking collecting games that i love, and i support every developer.
I know that the most of you don't give a fuck what I'm going to write but that's it.
Someone mentioned, do i feel ashamed? Yes for people telling me I dont belong here and thinking that im taking advantage of MS and shit, but not for opening a thread because Im not banned because i want to try someting before I buy.
That's it.
Refreshment.01
Member
But a good chunk of that wall of shame had to do with defending the "company of our devotion" more than helping/supporting the person in question.
Oh and forgot to add: Fanatism sucks!
Edit: OH! the ego XD
He didn't lose access to all his games, just the ones he doesn't have on his HDD. It's like being banned from a storage/vault, you can't go back in to get your stuff after you've been banned.
VGChampion
Member
Yep. I don't think I've ever seen a thread where someone says they're innocent end up with them actually being innocent. This one seemed shady from the past with the way he kept saying he bought a number of legally purchased games. OP was basically implying that's not all from the beginning.
OP hasn't stolen the games he owns though, fair enough if they ban him, fine him and take the games he got illegally, but he should keep his purchased games. If you stole a car they would take your other cars you bought as well.
HellsimusPrime
Banned
Why did i defend this guy?
not_so_special
Banned
well it works on both ways.. people who defend anything microsoft does..so? u wanna to convert this into another console wars thread? come one..u act like you are free from bias when u are one of the most prominent xbox defenders on this forum
the op was wrong ( i told ya) and microsoft was right on this,but that doesnt make the subjet less valid,bans in digital services need to be explained with details,not automated messages
HDgaming42
Member
Damn son!
I was totally off base there. I get it--you're not defending him, you're broadly defending everyone who pirates 90% of their games and you feel they should be unbanned so they can access XBOX LIVE to grab those games again! Because...dat $ LOL.
Sorry--internet and all. I mistook that as defending the OP. My bad. Continue on with enlightening us on the way the world should work. I was coming at it from the way it is.
So it's evil for a company to ban people for piracy?
Dreams-Visions
Member
Guys, I'm pretty sure he can still play all games that don't require an XBL connection to work. A lot of conversation is about a reality that doesn't exist. That being that all games stop working. They do not.
There are legal methods of finding out if you like a game, some games have demos, you can rent others etc.
No one took his games away. They denied him access to their service for breaking their ToS. Accessing a service isn't a right. It's a privilege. Don't want to lose that privilege? Don't be a thief.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
nvm. I forgot can still re-download games that you've already bought.
jadedcynic
Banned
I honestly believed it was marketing from the beginning, I noticed somebody was banned for making a negative PS4 thread the other day here, I guess you can't post anything bad about Sony here.
That's why I'd like to see a stop put to these kind of threads. This might be entertaining to a lot of people but it doesn't add much value to the discussion here and seems to sow a fair amount of discord amongst posters. The wall of shame is a mixture of people eager to jump on MS and others who took what OP said on face value, a 'gotcha' moment for many who just thought OP wasn't full of shit. I'll stop waving my placard and frowning my face now.
Im pretty sure they'd tell you to clear your stuff out first. That is also theft.
Maybe not, but MS doesn't know if the other games were pirated too.