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2) It says that you need a PC/Mac on your home network in order to stream PC/Mac only games over to it. Right in the part you quoted. It doesn't run them natively.

Hundreds of great games are already running natively on SteamOS.

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[OpieOP]

RIP Windows.

 

[I H8 Memes]

So if the first circle is the SteamOS, the second circle is a box around the OS - has to be the SteamBox, right?

So what's the third button, which looks like SteamOS + SteamOS? Some sort of multisystem-based announcement?

Could be that the + sign in the 3rd circle is referencing how they will include Steam users into the design process.

Soon, we’ll be adding you to our design process, so that you can help us shape the future of Steam.

 

[tim.mbp]

So Total War: Rome II SteamOS bound?

 

[Lasthope106]

I don't understand why anyone would use this on PC. I mean, none of the Windows applications will work and it will take a while for most of the games to support it (and games released in the past will obviously not work). And unless I missed something, they didn't announce any cool features that the OS has..?

The OS is Linux. I'm assuming you will be able to do everything that Linux allows. The problem is not now, but a few years down the road if Microsoft decides to go the app store route. That is the thing that worries Gabe. If that were to happen, Steam would have to give a cut of the money to MS.

Valve is betting on a future where Linux will always be a desktop OS, and that will the future of the pc.

 

[harSon]

Why would I chose this over a PC running XBMC, Advanced Launcher and Steam Big Picture Mode?

 

[Hayama Akito]

Linux full of DRM, Stallman would be proud.

 

[StuBurns]

This is Valve's New Coke moment.

 

[dejan]

I'm way more excited about this than I probably should be.

 

[Maedhros]

RIP Windows.

 

[ActionMan]

Would I be able to install Windows/Microsoft programs on SteamOS e.g. Microsoft Office?

Are You planning to do spreadsheets or work on that PowerPoint presentation while sitting on a couch? Or, perhaps, do some 3D modeling?

It's a media center PC alternative with integrated Steam and some Linux ports (that Valve plans to encourage developers to make), it does not replace PC/Mac and is probably not supposed to. Maybe, in 10 years it will replace consoles, though.

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

Exclusive other os install for PS4 I'm sure. I remember Valve was on stage with Sony at one point so I've got to believe they are best of friends.

Haha, no. Their 'friendship' extended as far as Portal 2 and CSGO. That's it.

 

[Prophet Steve]

The issue for me personally with this would be having to dual boot since I'd want to play bf4 or any other game not on steam or supported on Linux.

Well, it is called a SteamOS. So you should not expect something that is not on Steam. There is a limited library but that is true for every console, if you want to call it that.

 

[ComputerMKII]

Canonical had it's chance and blew it.
SteamOS is gonna steamroll Ubuntu. My Hard Drive is Ready.

Elementary OS is so young yet already doomed

 

[Orayn]

Valve needs to show that the perf for native games is better than on Windows in the first year or it's DOA.

Already did, babyskates: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/133824-valve-opengl-is-faster-than-directx-even-on-windows

 

[Diddy Kong]

God damn I'm interested in this

 

[Proelite]

RIP Windows.

For gaming maybe. Even that's a bit of a stretch.

 

[PG2G]

It isn't really a threat to Windows when the only useful and marketable feature of the product is the fact that it can stream games FROM Windows.

The amount of people willing to pay $1k for a machine that isn't useful beyond gaming is miniscule.

 

[Stimpack]

1. Steam OS
2. Steam boxes ($99 streaming, ~$300 base game player, $900+ monster rig)
3. Steam Game streaming? I'm guessing something similar to OnLive

That's what I'm betting on as well.

 

[Pachael]

There's lots of wins and groundwork from this (i.e. Valve taking the flag for Linux or a NIX variant, ensuring that their OS will be supportable in the future, paving the way for compatibility even if Microsoft goes down - there will be DirectX to OpenGL wrappers, potentially even stretching towards ARM/mobile in the future if required - software stacks everywhere)

Can't deny the self-interest in this though, good business of them to continue to elevate the Steam branding.

Also, Rome 2 confirmed Linux?

 

[KingSnake]

I wonder if you could install SteamOS on Wii U.

What about an upgraded Gamepad (or a gamepad like tablet - way cheaper than Shield)

 

[Bboy AJ]

So excited.

 

[Sponge]

Xbox One = Xbone
SteamOS = Stamos

THIRD AND FINAL UPDATE CONFIRMED

THE JOHN STEAMOS

 

[Dragon]

No it's not. On Windows I can just go to AMD's website, use the menu which will find the right file for me, download, open the executable and let it do its thing.

On Linux, if you don't speak English and aren't willing to Google shit, you're fucked. You're also fucked when you want to uninstall or update the driver (or the OS).

On Linux it costs no $$$.
On windows it costs $$$.

Fuck Windows.

And the installers on Linux are pretty awesome. Yum yum!

 

[c0de]

2014, year of linux.
you heard it here first.

 

[Sendou]

I'd say the next announcement is definitely a Steambox of some kind. Last announcement could be a controller that can be taken in parts somehow. So you can choose between trackball or analog stick for example.

 

[Durante]

This is Valve's New Coke moment.

I don't see how it can be, they aren't replacing "old coke".

 

[Impeccable]

Haha, no. Their 'friendship' extended as far as Portal 2 and CSGO. That's it.

They both are fighting the same enemy. It is time. Believe.

 

[whiteape]

Dat image noise everywhere. Welcome to 2008.

 

[Angel Abaddon]

So I have a choice to either:

1: Connect my Windows PC to my TV via a long HDMI cable and play my games, or:

2: Connect my Windows PC to my livingroom PC which is connected to my TV, and expect a little bit of lag as my games are streamed from one machine to another.

Yeah. Thanks?
What is it about this that makes everybody hard? I see no advantages in using this over Windows, at all. If I wanted a console OS, I'd buy a console, since I use my PC for more stuff than just gaming.

Its perfect for me, as I mentioned earlier in the thread. I'm probably a fringe case, but I can't run cables in my flat as its rented so a no-no on drilling, and I don't want to have to trail a cable from the spare room to the living room every time I want to game on the TV, as well as HDMI getting dodgy at the length I'd need, so it would actually be HDMI over 2x Cat6, so even more unwieldy .

 

[inm8num2]

Why would I chose this over a PC running XBMC, Advanced Launcher and Steam Big Picture Mode?

Would it be possible for Steam to have "SteamOS" exclusives?

 

[LQX]

So you still need Windows?

 

[Tertullian]

Here's how it seems to work.

SteamOS is a Steam centric operating system you can install on a device. Valve has been working with developers to get games working natively on the OS.

Not all games will work natively though. Games that do not work natively can be streamed to a SteamOS device by having your Windows/Mac PC library active on another system.

Sooo if I have, say, Left 4 Dead 3 it will run on Windows, Mac, and SteamOS. I can install it directly to my SteamOS device and run it straight from the source. However, maybe I also want to play BioShock Infinite, and BioShock Infinite does not (hypothetically) have SteamOS support. What I can do is have my normal computer turned on, and then use my SteamOS device to stream the game via the network from my source computer.

I can imagine input lag is a problem. What I really want to know is what kind of performance increase SteamOS native games will benefit from under SteamOS. If it's significant I'll definitely be installing a dual boot on my computer: one for Windows, and another for SteamOS, and just boot the latter when I want to take advantage of full performance.

This was what I assumed as well.

The biggest question in my mind is whether the PS4 will be able to run SteamOS, like any other Linux OS or as an app or whatever. That would be srs business.

 

[xbhaskarx]

I have no idea what any of this means...

 

[Interfectum]

I have no problem with how things have been going for years. Admittedly MS every now and then tries to make it a problem like they did with GFWL at its start and the beginning days of Windows 8 but then they get their asses chewed out and go back to normal. Win xp and Win 7 have been great for me.

So... you'd rather trust Microsoft to not wrong you again with Windows 9 and keep PC gaming forever in their hands? That's good you want to keep the status quo but I'd rather a company attempt to decouple PC Gaming and MS by any means necessary.

 

[jj984jj]

So the most interesting thing is what platforms does Valve develop on now?

Is Valve still a Windows developer?

Valve is going for an open future, there's no reason to believe they'll stop supporting other OS and platforms.

 

[AkuMifune]

Yeah, this is a waste of time. But hey, who wants HL3 anyway?

 

[GetZ]

Gabe is Heisenberg

 

[Felix Lighter]

So the most interesting thing is what platforms does Valve develop on now?

Is Valve still a Windows developer?

I can't imagine a situation where they do not continue to develop for Windows along side Linux at least while Windows is still the by far the dominate OS for PC gaming.

 

[Guevara]

2014, year of linux.
you heard it here first.

Every year for dozens of years has been the Year of Linux.

 

[Various Artists]

Seems interesting but why would I use this instead of my regular windows steam pc.

I'm sure I'm missing something so sorry in advance.

 

[TheRealTalker]

VitaTV + SteamOS = Megaton
(with streaming games from your PC)

you just made me want this to no END

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Holy Mary mother of God :O

I didn't think they'd actually do it. Based Gaben.

 

[reelbigtink]

Sounds pretty sweet to me. And I'll most surely be calling it Stamos.

 

[panty]

And this is a positive megaton how?

People are freaking out just if it says Steam.

 

[S0N0S]

Could be that the + sign in the 3rd circle is referencing how they will include Steam users into the design process.

Yup! Last circle will be SteamDev. Workshop, Marketplace, Early Access used to crowd-source development. Mods and assests given and sold to devs to use within their titles, early access for alphas/betas to test.

 

[Horse Detective]

So can this be installed on normal computer rigs? I don't understand the terminology they use.

 

[maabus1999]

I'm befuddled by the RIP Windows comments...this, as presented, does not make an impact on Windows sales at all...

If anything it opens a market for steambox to go up against something like appletv or vita TV.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Gabe is Heisenberg

And Balmer is Hank

And FBI is Windows

 

[MikeE21286]

Of course they are. It'd be throwing away money to do anything else.

Lots of platforms to juggle there;

Xbox 1, PS4, Linux, Windows

>10 year dev cycles confirmed. See ya in 2020


/sarcasm