How can Microsoft win back your heart for XB1?
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Trickster
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Well I'm gonna get a ps4 first. That's not gonna change since i'm not a tier1 country as far as microsoft are concerned.
But really. If they want me to buy their console. They just gotta have the games, that's really the only thing I care about. I don't give a shit about apps or streaming services and all that shit.
But really. If they want me to buy their console. They just gotta have the games, that's really the only thing I care about. I don't give a shit about apps or streaming services and all that shit.
Yes. They've published six games so far this year. They're planning to release four more games in 2013 and three in 2014.
Quadraphonic
Member
According to wikipedia:
MS-published 360 games in 2013:
Gears of War: Judgment
Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition
Zoo Tycoon
What am I missing?
They simply can't.
Yep, my thoughts as well. I still have Windows XP dual-booted with Ubuntu on my PC but with Valves push of Linux I can see myself getting rid of that as well.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
I preordered the moment it was available.
was going to flip it.
decided to keep it after they reversed on the drm crap and mandatory Kinect.
was going to flip it.
decided to keep it after they reversed on the drm crap and mandatory Kinect.
Already released:
State of Decay
Motorcross Madness
Battleblock Theater
Charlie Murder
Skulls of the Shogun
Upcoming 2013 games:
Lococycle
Super Time Force
Ascend: Hand of Kul
Next year:
Project Spark
Max: Curse of Brotherhood (pretty sure it's coming next year) Edit: Yes
Fable Anniversary
Quadraphonic
Member
Oh, XBLA titles...
Drop Kinect
Drop price $100
I think they've got a better launch lineup for my personal tastes in the short term.
I have no interest in indie games and think its an awful selling point for a $400 console, since most people own smart phones, tablets and/or PCs and can get those kinds of games anyway. Seems Sony is going to hang their hat on these Indy games after the launch window until Sony Santa Monica and Naughty Dog get their games ready.
That said, I have even less interest in Kinect than I do Indy games and I refuse to pay for it. Kinect 1.0 gathered more dust on my entertainment center than my Wii and Wii U combined and thats an awful lot of dust.
Drop Kinect and that $100 premium that goes with it, then Xbox one might be in play again as to which console I'll be getting at launch.
Drop price $100
I think they've got a better launch lineup for my personal tastes in the short term.
I have no interest in indie games and think its an awful selling point for a $400 console, since most people own smart phones, tablets and/or PCs and can get those kinds of games anyway. Seems Sony is going to hang their hat on these Indy games after the launch window until Sony Santa Monica and Naughty Dog get their games ready.
That said, I have even less interest in Kinect than I do Indy games and I refuse to pay for it. Kinect 1.0 gathered more dust on my entertainment center than my Wii and Wii U combined and thats an awful lot of dust.
Drop Kinect and that $100 premium that goes with it, then Xbox one might be in play again as to which console I'll be getting at launch.
Haven't you heard the latest news? Downloadable games are real games now.
Randolph Freelander
Member
That ship has sailed.
It was teetering last generation with their policies, particularly XBL and the marketplace, but they basically had me at "Halo" and PS3 was "FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE UNITED STATES DOLLARS." And at least 360 had backwards compatibility on most every title I wanted to play.
Now, they don't have me at Halo, they don't have BC, they have the same if not worse online and store policies and monetization encouragement, they're forcing Kinect down our throats, they wanted severely restrictive DRM although at least they temporarily backtracked on that. But I'm done, I didn't like them so much with 360 but I went along with it anyway, and I'm not doing it anymore.
It was teetering last generation with their policies, particularly XBL and the marketplace, but they basically had me at "Halo" and PS3 was "FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE UNITED STATES DOLLARS." And at least 360 had backwards compatibility on most every title I wanted to play.
Now, they don't have me at Halo, they don't have BC, they have the same if not worse online and store policies and monetization encouragement, they're forcing Kinect down our throats, they wanted severely restrictive DRM although at least they temporarily backtracked on that. But I'm done, I didn't like them so much with 360 but I went along with it anyway, and I'm not doing it anymore.
ThomasAnderson
Member
Drop the price to $450. That way when compared to the PS4 w/ PS Eye it comes out $10 cheaper. And Titanfall looks promising imo. I'll wait a while to learn more about their exclusives and hardware reliability, been burned by 2 RRODs.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Give Itakagi a shit ton of money and time For Devils third
Give kayima a shit ton of money and time for new IP.
Convince Itsuno and capcom to greenlight DMC5 and pay for development.
Fund a seperate action series With Neo_G as a director and Tragic as combat designer.
Offer a kinectless SKU and A 20 character retail KI disc.
Id welcome them with open arms.
Give kayima a shit ton of money and time for new IP.
Convince Itsuno and capcom to greenlight DMC5 and pay for development.
Fund a seperate action series With Neo_G as a director and Tragic as combat designer.
Offer a kinectless SKU and A 20 character retail KI disc.
Id welcome them with open arms.
-MD-
Member
Conker sequel without Chris Seavor? No thanks.
Kill Kinect.
Blood Wake 2.
RalliSport Challenge 3.
Halo Combat Evolved 2.
A racing game where you play as a panicked flying squirrel heading down the side of a mountain. It could play like a blend between Wipeout HD and F-Zero GX.
A main menu where the adverts are replaced by "deal with it" gifs of premium quality.
Blood Wake 2.
RalliSport Challenge 3.
Halo Combat Evolved 2.
A racing game where you play as a panicked flying squirrel heading down the side of a mountain. It could play like a blend between Wipeout HD and F-Zero GX.
A main menu where the adverts are replaced by "deal with it" gifs of premium quality.
astronaughtE
Banned
I'm deffinetly buy xbo first.
I watch tv.
I own blurays
I can't wait to snap gaf
IR blaster
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Titanfall
Project spark
DR3
Xbl
Challenges
That's all I have for now
I'll buy the more powerful hardware when its loaded with software I want
I watch tv.
I own blurays
I can't wait to snap gaf
IR blaster
Auto login
Titanfall
Project spark
DR3
Xbl
Challenges
That's all I have for now
I'll buy the more powerful hardware when its loaded with software I want
Super_Chicken
Member
I'm done with xbox and xbox live when they auto charged my credit card and refused to refund the $8 after I told them I hadn't used their service once that month. It had nothing to do with the money and everything to do with principle... lost a customer for life.
Neuromancer
Member
Drop the price.
Show me some awesome games I can't get anywhere else.
Stop being dicks.
Show me some awesome games I can't get anywhere else.
Stop being dicks.
Boogalogist
Member
Poor Microsoft....even if they dropped the Kinect and dropped $100 in price, it's still weaker than the PS4.
Quadraphonic
Member
...The fact you listed IR blaster makes me sad. You have no clue about what that means, do you? HDMI CEC should be all you need. If you have to use the IR blaster, you have a weird setup. Plus, they don't even include an IR blaster cable.
astronaughtE
Banned
Heh I actually don't 100% know. I assume it will turn on my tv and receiver?
That cloud doesn't exist.
The part about not XBL not having anything close to the Summer Sale is not really true. They have had some big digital sales this year.
Also, the 360 is/was deeply rooted in retail. The One would have been their chance to try and be like Steam as a digital platform, but they didn't get the chance.
Conrad Link
Member
Ditch Kinect, give me the option of saving money by not forcing me to purchase something I will never use.
Quadraphonic
Member
See. Right there. You're quoting things as reasons that you want the Xbox One and you actually have no clue how it works. Don't you find that a bit sad?
HDMI CEC is what you'll be using. The slim PS3s already have this. The Xbox 360 doesn't. The HDMI cable should do everything you need.
That is a brutal list compared to God of War, Sly, Last of Us, Ratchet, Beyond, Rain, Dust 514, LBP Hub, Puppeteer and Gran Turismo.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Massive price drop
Massive dedication to AAA first party games
It'll never be a primary system, but I may pick it up later in the gen if it has a lot of killer exclusive content.
Massive dedication to AAA first party games
It'll never be a primary system, but I may pick it up later in the gen if it has a lot of killer exclusive content.
Nathan_Drake
Member
Was always getting PS4 but what could get me to go with an extra console? (I wouldnt mind it as my brother is an XBot so MP would be nice.
1) Drop the price 150.00. It is less powerful and I would not use it for multiplat so I am not paying more than the PS4 and it would have to be less. Kinect or Kinect-less I don't care.
2) Bring something new to the table that is Gaming related. Not NFL, not TV control, or any other non game feature. Maybe Oculus Rift support or something.
3) Remove Pay Wall for features that I am already paying for (Netflix, Internet, etc). If you want me to pay for MP that is fine especially if you are providing dedicated servers.
4) Become more consumer friendly. This has been a horrible display of business ethics and customer loyalty. It is a business I get it but there are varying degrees of customer support/satisfaction they can move on.
1) Drop the price 150.00. It is less powerful and I would not use it for multiplat so I am not paying more than the PS4 and it would have to be less. Kinect or Kinect-less I don't care.
2) Bring something new to the table that is Gaming related. Not NFL, not TV control, or any other non game feature. Maybe Oculus Rift support or something.
3) Remove Pay Wall for features that I am already paying for (Netflix, Internet, etc). If you want me to pay for MP that is fine especially if you are providing dedicated servers.
4) Become more consumer friendly. This has been a horrible display of business ethics and customer loyalty. It is a business I get it but there are varying degrees of customer support/satisfaction they can move on.
HAMMEROFJUSTICE
Neo Member
Great exclusives. Killer Instinct is already making it tempting..
MoGamesXNA
Unconfirmed Member
- Good amount of exclusives and massive first party support (no timed 'exclusive' DLC thanks)
- Console revision that's half the size
- Proven reliability
- GUI that isn't complete wank and riddled with adverts
- No Kinect
- Pure, dedicated offline focused console
or
Project Gotham Racing 5 and Geometry Wars 3
- Console revision that's half the size
- Proven reliability
- GUI that isn't complete wank and riddled with adverts
- No Kinect
- Pure, dedicated offline focused console
or
Project Gotham Racing 5 and Geometry Wars 3
They can't. They gave up on my demographic as soon as they saw Nintendo rake it in with the Wii. I'm done with the stupid avatars, Kinect, paywalls on services I already pay for, catering to the Call of Dudebro crowd, all that shit.
Maybe if they learn some humility next gen I'll check them out then. This gen I'll sit back and watch the $499 trainwreck from the sideline.
Maybe if they learn some humility next gen I'll check them out then. This gen I'll sit back and watch the $499 trainwreck from the sideline.
Justzisguyukno
Member
Hate to be that guy..
1.Price drop.
2.Conker/Banjo/PerfectDark
I'm not as anti-kinect as I was at the start, but for me the system just doesn't have the games I'm interested in at the moment, and the price + game initial investment is quite steep.
With that said I'm also not getting a PS4 since it doesn't have any games that I feel are "must haves" at this time either.
1.Price drop.
2.Conker/Banjo/PerfectDark
I'm not as anti-kinect as I was at the start, but for me the system just doesn't have the games I'm interested in at the moment, and the price + game initial investment is quite steep.
With that said I'm also not getting a PS4 since it doesn't have any games that I feel are "must haves" at this time either.
Dark Rider
Member
I can't trust them anymore. They tried to take my rights and failed.
If i support them and in whatever point in the future they gain enough controlling power over the industry, how I know they won't do it again? with fail safe this time
If i support them and in whatever point in the future they gain enough controlling power over the industry, how I know they won't do it again? with fail safe this time
Shipwrecked
Neo Member
If they announce Jade Empire 2 xbox exclusive. Then maybe ill bother a friend, who may own a box, to lend me it.
For me to buy one it would have to be kinect free, slim model (current is retarded big) and a crap ton of good exclusives I missed by going ps4, pc. So I doubt i'm getting one until the end of next gen if at all. Probably not at all. I can't justify paying the online subscription price on 2 systems.
Due to their near nonexistent indie and Japanese developer support they've lost their opportunity to be my primary system, but maybe in two years or so after a price drop I'll pick one up if there are enough AAA exclusives to warrant it.
I think the industry move away from exclusives is only going to accelerate though, so it's going to be pretty tough to justify a system purchase just for 1st party Halo games. Some of Microsoft's currently unknown and unproven 1st party devs are really going to have to execute and shore up Microsoft's 1st party lineup.
I think the industry move away from exclusives is only going to accelerate though, so it's going to be pretty tough to justify a system purchase just for 1st party Halo games. Some of Microsoft's currently unknown and unproven 1st party devs are really going to have to execute and shore up Microsoft's 1st party lineup.
If they do another 180 and remove the Kinect, that would be the last straw. I would never buy XB1 in that circumstance. Well, certainly not for $399. The Kinect is about the only "uniquely interesting" thing the XB1 has going for it. Get rid of that and you've just got a PS4, except slower. And with better online.
What they need to remove is the Kinect price premium. If Microsoft wants to force everybody to purchase the Kinect, with all benefits currently sight unseen, then they can by-god pick up the tab for it! Or, at least subsidize the shit out of it. As it is now, only Microsoft seems to think the Kinect will be super useful, and yet everybody except Microsoft is being forced to pay for it. It might suck!
Now, I personally believe that the Kinect might be cool. And I certainly believe that it has to be packed into every SKU, or it will be ignored by developers just like the first Kinect was. But since Microsoft has not shown us any evidence of this theoretical future coolness, I'll be damned if I'll plunk down $100+ of my money, just to be part of some grand experiment.
So, again to repeat:
What they need to remove is the Kinect price premium. If Microsoft wants to force everybody to purchase the Kinect, with all benefits currently sight unseen, then they can by-god pick up the tab for it! Or, at least subsidize the shit out of it. As it is now, only Microsoft seems to think the Kinect will be super useful, and yet everybody except Microsoft is being forced to pay for it. It might suck!
Now, I personally believe that the Kinect might be cool. And I certainly believe that it has to be packed into every SKU, or it will be ignored by developers just like the first Kinect was. But since Microsoft has not shown us any evidence of this theoretical future coolness, I'll be damned if I'll plunk down $100+ of my money, just to be part of some grand experiment.
So, again to repeat:
- XB1 plus Kinect for $499 -- Hell, no. That's too much to pay, even if the Kinect turns out to be sweet.
- XB1 with no Kinect for $399 -- Still no. You just described a slightly shoddier version of the PS4. I can get an actual PS4 for that.
- XB1 plus Kinect for $399 -- Okay, now you're starting to appeal to those of us who have some "faith" in the Kinect. Maybe a bit slower than the PS4, but it's got that fairly snazzy camera...
- XB1 plus Kinect for $349 -- Now you're starting to appeal to the folks that don't even want the Kinect. It's (at worst) a slightly cheapafied PS4 at this point, and if the Kinect does pan out, that's an actual damn good value.
- XB1 without Kinect for $299. This is the last ditch, "get out of hell" SKU. Rolled out only when all else has failed. This is the "Faster Wii U, except with games" SKU. And at that price, it might even sell to the imaginary demographic that buys consoles to watch TV on.
polyh3dron
Banned
This is where I'm at.