US Federal Government Shutdown | Shutdown Shutdown, Debt Ceiling Raised

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Non-essential who still require a fucking paycheck to live?. The same ones who still spend money at businesses, for food, clothing, etc. What about the non-essential government contracts that other businesses require to function?

EV said it more eloquently than I could have.

who cares about non-essentials

not our fault you're not essential!

sarcasm for the slow ones
 
I ran into this girl I dated briefly at East End, and we wound up catching up and she told me she works at the place that Devo went to as a topless waitress/occasional dancer/do stuff with ladies on stage person. ...she has nice boobs, I can see why she has that job. -.-
i vote for Acropolis. Time to try that Steak.
Been here since 2006, outside of a year stint in San Francisco. Still haven't had that steak. This needs to be fixed. I must try that steak.
So they sit on their ass even harder and still make 6 figures?

I found the real Welfare Queens.
Amen.

Seriously though. Now that this is over, I'm kinda wondering what the next step is. Depending on the next couple days, it's looking like Dems are going to not cave in the first time in uh, a long long time. That's a huge first step.
 
It's much easier to reach your bootstraps when you're sitting down.

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Doesn't the US gov. have to raise the debt ceiling again soon, too?
Yes, unfortunately. However, since this fight is happening now instead of later, it demonstrates that the Dems are willing to put up a fight, and it puts the Republicans in a disadvantageous position for the future debt ceiling fight.

Regardless, we need to stop having these petty fights. It's a waste of time, taxpayer money, and it's really hurting our citizens.
 
Yes, yes it does. Now if we don't do that we not only screw ourselves, but the rest of the world economy in the process.

Whelp, hopefully the new Australian government can insulate us from that like the previous one did....if the US government does end up failing to raise the roof.
 
I already saw a welfare queen driving to get a now free Obamacare abortion paid with on her EBT card. Also, she was with a homosexual.
 
a lot of federal employees deemed "essential" still have to report to work in the morning. they are not allowed to take annual or sick leave during the shutdown. of course all days they report to work during the shutdown will be back paid.

i was curious though, how does this affect women on maternity leave? will their time off be back paid as well?
 
The best case scenario is that a few days or a week or so of shutdown gets blamed on house republicans, particularly the tea party bunch, and they actually get shamed/see the light as a result. Then they won't pull this crap again with the debt ceiling vote. But at this point it's quite obvious that the tea party republicans in the house are at greater risk with their own districts when they compromise than when they try to blackmail the entire country.
 
Medicare and Social Security will be some of the last programs affected, given that they are nondiscretionary spending items with their own funding sources (payroll tax) that are required to be funded by law and aren't included in the yearly regular budget (except as an accounting trick to use Social Security surpluses to patch over deficit spending.)

I believe the obama administration did away with that little accounting trick.

Or maybe it was for social security bonds. I don't know.
 
The local news comments...All attached to real names and pictures.


Someone just mentioned bootstraps


EDIT : and communism
 
Looking forward to my country's economy going back down the shitter because of some politicians on another continent.

Do you know what happens in most countries when the government fails to pass a budget? An election is called. If the government can't do the one basic thing it is meant to do, you replace it.
 
Who's gonna stop ya?

No seriously who is getting paid to stop people from going to national parks, that part confuses me. They are closed, but how do they enforce it?

Can local government help out their local parks to keep them afloat while this goes on? I can't imagine they can keep entire parks sealed off, nor do they want people loitering around the parks unsupervised.
 
At least give me some fucking cake. These motherfuckers make $180K/year and don't even work the whole fucking year. Congrats fuckers, you just got extra vacation days. Give me cake. I'll eat it. Not that dry-ass supermarket bullshit, but real cake. If you are feeling cheap give me some fucking pies. I hear pumpkin is in season these days.

How about at least fucking peanut butter because that's literally the only thing I had to eat when mother nature did an actual shutdown a few years ago and dropped eight feet of snow where I live. I'm a 34-year-old man eating ramen noodles because health insurance costs are so fucking god damn insane and it's either eat well or pay my hospital bills and rent. Just try to at least fucking pretend that you exist in the real world for once and have to make a choice between eating actual sustenance or paying bills. Chef Boyardee or rent? Call me when you have to make that choice when you are flying back to your gerrymandered district on your tax-payer funded private jet. Wait, I forgot. I'm not in the magical middle class, so my voice doesn't mean shit even though I vote in every election and primary.

We are ruled by a bunch of fucking oligarchs. The tyranny of the one has been replaced by the tyranny of the select few.
 
I always thought things like this were avoided at the last minute, you know, like the last time. Guess not.

You have to understand the level of hate we're talking control here. This is the extent that some will claw at power to keep it. I hope people remember this come next election. I'm sure many involved think the same but things will not go the way they think it will.
 
So let me see if I have this correct, they want to defund the government and leave almost a million people jobless (if only temporarily) because they don't like some laws that government passed? Is this the gist of what's happening here?
 
You have to understand the level of hate we're talking control here. This is the extent that some will claw at power to keep it. I hope people remember this come next election. I'm sure many involved think the same but things will not go the way they think it will.

Even if they do it might not matter, the House has been gerrymandered to hell and back in favor of the GOP. It'd take a miracle for Dems to regain the House.

So let me see if I have this correct, they want to defund the government and leave almost a million people jobless (if only temporarily) because they don't like some laws that government passed? Is this the gist of what's happening here?

More or less. You should note that the law allows people to get healthcare that normally wouldn't have access to it.
 
So let me see if I have this correct, they want to defund the government and leave almost a million people jobless (if only temporarily) because they don't like some laws that government passed? Is this the gist of what's happening here?

More or less, yeah.
 
Whelp, hopefully the new Australian government can insulate us from that like the previous one did....if the US government does end up failing to raise the roof.

just put them on boats and ensure i get my imported goods cheaply!
 
At least give me some fucking cake. These motherfuckers make $180K/year and don't even work the whole fucking year.

They are trying to seize the crown of worst ever from the 2006 group of fuckwits.
In the Sixties and Seventies, Congress met an average of 162 days a year. In the Eighties and Nineties, the average went down to 139 days. This year, the second session of the 109th Congress will set the all-time record for fewest days worked by a US Congress: ninety-three. That means that House members will collect their $165,000 paychecks for only three months of actual work.

It was actually worse than the shit stained surface.
And even those numbers don't come close to telling the full story. Those who actually work on the Hill will tell you that a great many of those "workdays" were shameless mail-ins, half-days at best. Congress has arranged things now so that the typical workweek on the Hill begins late on Tuesday and ends just after noon on Thursday, to give members time to go home for the four-day weekend. This is borne out in the numbers: On nine of its "workdays" this year, the House held not a single vote - meeting for less than eleven minutes. The Senate managed to top the House's feat, pulling off three workdays this year that lasted less than one minute. All told, a full fifteen percent of the Senate's workdays lasted less than four hours. Figuring for half-days, in fact, the 109th Congress probably worked almost two months less than that "Do-Nothing" Congress.
 
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You realize this is because the Tea Party wave of 2010, a sect of 30 or so people in the Republican House Majority, has thus far been telling the rest of their party, their Speaker, the Senate, and the White House how to run things?

~30 people. And don't you forget that. Republicans will try to call out Dems who aren't perfect by any means but this is a crisis manufactured by an incredibly small but ideologically insane group of people.

John Boehner is not doing his job -- you should know he has the power to bring the clean CR bill (what the Senate sent back) to the floor, and he would have had at least 100 Republican votes for that. Combined with Democratic votes, it would have passed just in time and there would be no shutdown.

When 30 people within a party that only controls one branch of Government are dictating the entire process thus far, that's all you really need to know, outside posturing be damned. The Tea Party's platform is one of pure lunacy, plain and simple.
And term limits would prevent this kind of stuff from happening. They wouldnt be in office as long so these little cliques couldn't happen. Instead, we have to wait until they get voted out of office, but considering how uneducated your average voter is, they will just continue to vote for the same people year after year
 
and term limits would.prevent this kind of.stuff from happening. They wouldnt be in office as long so these little cliques couldn't happen. Instead, we have to wait until they get voted out of office, but considering how uneducated your average voter is, they will just continue to vote for the same people year after year

You realize that the group of Congressmen doing this are the new guys right? It's not the old guys who have been there for ages, this is all the new guys. The guys that got in recently. Term limits wouldn't have done shit here, except maybe have allowed more of the crazies that ran to get in.
 
and term limits would.prevent this kind of.stuff from happening. They wouldnt be in office as long so these little cliques couldn't happen. Instead, we have to wait until they get voted out of office, but considering how uneducated your average voter is, they will just continue to vote for the same people year after year
Tea party came in as freshmen. Term limits on legislative branches of government concede power to the executive branch and make people in the political class solicit jobs from businesses they will write legislation for while in term limited seats. Also makes oversight over executive departments disappear because legislators forget that's part of their job. Money becomes a larger factor in legislative term limited chambers, just look at Michigan, for instance. It also makes people in the local elections become more interested ini running and limits the ability for those not in the political class to run for those positions.
 
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