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Pacific Rim |OT| Apocalypse Never
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Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
So basically it's just out on digital today and no "pre order disc and get digital" deals?
Hmm, may have to buy the iTunes version. As much as I want a disc...
Hmm, may have to buy the iTunes version. As much as I want a disc...
Damn, $20. I'll just wait for Blu
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Wait the two weeks. The disc will have lossless sound, and it should be a killer on this movie.
I preordered it at Walmart, got my early Vudu/ultraviolet copy, and the blu will be mailed on the 15th.
Darth Pinche
Member
Hey a heads up, this is available now on the Playstation network. If you check out the trailer, they then show the first 10 minutes for free. I almost clicked on buy immediately, but I'll wait for the BR goodness.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Whaaaaa?
Maybe I'll go to Walmart tonight and see if they have a card, or did you do it online? They just mail you a VUDU code? Link to the one you ordered?
Odd thing is they have an edition with VUDU and one with Ultra Violet, and the UV one is cheaper.
donkey show
Member
FYI - People usually sell these preorder cards cheaper on eBay. If you search "Pacific Rim Preorder" you should find a few. They are $29.99 in my store but I got the code (which is the only content for these) on eBay for $15.99. You enter the code in Vudu, which gives you the UV copy and asks you to enter your address for mailing the blu-ray copy. If you want to go that route, it's the quickest and easiest way to do it.
CrocMother
Banned
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Poindexter
Member
Watching the Xbox Video version. God this movie is so gorgeous. Guillermo shut up and take all my money!
Go into Walmart, buy the card. There will be a code inside that you redeem on a Vudu url, you enter your shipping info, and they link the ultraviolet version of the film to your account which can be played on Vudu.
No.
Yea, annoying. Argh
This movie was pretty bad. I can ignore common sense and science and get into a popcorn flick like everyone else, but:
Why wouldn't the robots ALWAYS use stabbing weapons and swords? Why rely on slow-charging guns? On punching a monster instead of fucking stabbing it with a sword?
And why did they shut down the robot program? For walls? This makes no sense. When facing such incredible power, why would they stop with the robots? It makes no sense whatsoever.
And why did they shut down the robot program? For walls? This makes no sense. When facing such incredible power, why would they stop with the robots? It makes no sense whatsoever.
a secret-boss
Banned
Money. u know how they said how expensive it is to make them jaegers
I find this hard to believe when we are talking about giants space creatures that kill millions of people and the humans have shown not a single way of killing it except the giant robots. I would have preferred if it was because of some limited resource that was exhausted. I just can't buy the "welp, costs too much, maybe they'll leave us alone if our walls are high enough. Nevermind that some of the fuckers can fly."
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
Yep. If anything those governments that refused further funding of the Jaeger program should have crawled back to Stacker and given him anything, at least a month before the start of the movie, when the Kaiju started appearing en masse and the walls proved worthless.
a secret-boss
Banned
well they didn't even know it could fly and they saw recently how the the kaiju just smashed the wall easily on that one tv news.
As Apostate said, once they saw that the walls were worthless, why not restart the program?
a secret-boss
Banned
it creates drama that the team only have one chance rather than unlimited funding for Jaeger. it is a movie
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
The governments knew the
rate of breaches was increasing, and that the battle against the monsters was a lost cause, this is why they stopped the jager program and went with the wall plan. They were just buying time until the end, which they thought was inevitable defeat.
SJRB
Gold Member
It's an incredibly cheap plot device to keep the amount of available Jaegers to a minimum and to present Gipsy Danger as the savior to humanity. There would be zero tension with 500 Jaegers running around everywhere.
Pacific Rim is a great movie but you really mustn't stop and think about what is actually happening because then the movie crumbles to a pile of nonsense.
It's a movie about giant robots versus giant monsters. Are you not at all familiar with the genre? This movie was an homage to it. The premise alone requires you suspend your disbelief of logic and the laws of physics. Why didn't Voltron use its sword right off the bat? Or the Yamato use the wave motion gun as an opening salvo? Or the SDF-1 with the main gun? It's because starting by pressing the easy button isn't entertaining. Sucks you didn't like the movie, but different strokes and all that.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Any chance of an Extended or Director's Cut?
Yeah, I'm over it. When I asked my buddy why they didn't use swords from the start, his response was "how are the robots standing up in the middle of the ocean?" It's just annoying because I liked the premise and I think these types of things could have been addressed in some way. Like I said with ending the robot program - why not just make the robots require some uber rare resource that has run out? Or have it so that each robot takes 10 years to make and the monsters destroyed the rest or something?
Anyway, we'll see what the sequel brings.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Probably costs too much with all the effects they would have to make for it. Unless it is all character development.
SJRB
Gold Member
This is a good point, actually. The reason that there are so many different Jaeger types and Marks is because the Kaiju kept evolving to counter the Jaeger. So as a response the Jaegers were constantly upgraded to face the new Kaiju types.
This is the main reason they're not being mass-produced - their models are obsolete in no-time.
Thats actually adressed in the movie: Mako specifically
mentions she had additions made to Gypsy before they set out and use the sword.
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
So what's the story with the Pacific Rim sequel? The last article I saw said that del Toro had started working on the script but the sequel had not been greenlit by the studio.
And won't be greenlit for a looong time.
BattleMonkey
Member
They expected the walls to work (they weren't just walls, they were covered in weapons too), but yea that didn't work. The Jaeger program was extremely expensive and it was not working, so yea they went with a more defensive strategy that proved pointless.
Also it makes more sense to use ranged weapons on Kaiju than get in close, since that is where most Kaiju are deadly. Getting in close should be last resort if they can take them out or harm them first from range.
Also it makes more sense to use ranged weapons on Kaiju than get in close, since that is where most Kaiju are deadly. Getting in close should be last resort if they can take them out or harm them first from range.
Wiktor
Member
This still doesn't explain anything. She didn't make those additions during the fight, did she?
fredrancour
Member
Experienced veteran dude didn't know the new weapon was there.
Newbie on first combat mission follows his lead for most of fight.
Because no one thought to use stabbing or slicing weapons before this?! Not even using spikes on their fists at least? Human warfare since the beginning of time has been about using weapons to inflict more damage. But I need to just get over it
BronsonLee
Member
No, they actively avoided those weapons because Kaiju blood is a dick
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
Wow, thanks for the wealth of information /sarcasm
So basically you know nothing. kthnxbye
Shouta
Member
Because no one thought to use stabbing or slicing weapons before this?! Not even using spikes on their fists at least? Human warfare since the beginning of time has been about using weapons to inflict more damage. But I need to just get over it
It's because they want to minimize the blood of kaiju being spilled. They explained it briefly in the beginning with Kaiju Blue. They didn't explain it outright but you can put two and two together. The internals of the kaiju also required folks going in to wear hazmat suits as I recall. Probably a mix of the atmosphere and blood inside
What are you expecting? To Legendary pull some cash ahead of a schedule? If PR2 will be greenlit within the next 3 years then Del Toro is not directing it. It's safe to assume it's not coming out for long time, given he is pre-occupied with Crimson Peak and Pinocchio.
They did mention that in the movie. One of the reasons the wall was selected was because they losing Jaegers faster than they could build them. They probably thought that while the Kaijus could damage the wall they could probably kill them with missile strikes before they breach it and then fix the wall afterward, which would be much quicker and cheaper than building new robots. Turns out they were wrong.
Also:
why did the aliens fail with the dinosaurs? What could've possibly stopped them at that point in time?
In the novelization, they explain that
the wall had never been broken though completely until Sydney, so it would have still been a viable option at the time of the closing of the jaeger program. Probably the dumbest point of the movie though, although it doesn't ruin it for me.
Enosh
Member
idk about spoiler tagging rules in movie threads, so I'll just spoil everything ^^
I have seen that explanation before and I have to call bullshit on this
1. they don't exactly seem all to concerned about blood spilling when they ripped the tongue out of that flying one, or at any other blood spiling part of the fight
2. damage with quick kill and more blood vs prolonged battle that destroys half the city
I'm thinking the cost/benefit of that one goes to the quick kill one
3. the chinese one had saw blades as basically primary weapons (although with none of the advantages a sword would give, stabbing and cutting instead of just cutting plus longer reach) so no one seemed that concerned about the blood fall out if they said okay to that
so yeah, given how effective swords and other bladed weapons proved against the monsters compared to just punching it I really fail to see the reason they didn't start using those sooner and more of them
2. damage with quick kill and more blood vs prolonged battle that destroys half the city
I'm thinking the cost/benefit of that one goes to the quick kill one
3. the chinese one had saw blades as basically primary weapons (although with none of the advantages a sword would give, stabbing and cutting instead of just cutting plus longer reach) so no one seemed that concerned about the blood fall out if they said okay to that
so yeah, given how effective swords and other bladed weapons proved against the monsters compared to just punching it I really fail to see the reason they didn't start using those sooner and more of them
overall fun movie ^^
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