Lord_Byron28
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We'll get a legendary trio, the cover legendary trio, the cute fairy event poke and the Mewtwo/Deoxys/genesect event poke and hopefully that's it.
Pokemon X and Y Leaks, Releases Early
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Black-Wind
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There's not really a such thing as filler Pokemon though.
What you call filler may be the truest bro to the person beside you.
That's the beauty of Pokemon.
Dr. Buni
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Agreed. I could live without a lot of the 5th Gen Pokemon. XY having fewer new Pokémon and a lot of old ones, if true, is a great thing imo. The worrying part to me is the "almost no post game content". I was really hoping for a new Battle Frontier. :c Then again, B2W2 has a lot of post game content and I still like BW waaaay more.
Wow, this might be the wisest quote in the entire thread. Props.
AlexMeloche
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Even if there was only 70 new Pokémon right now in the game (which would be sad), GameFreak could always add more with patches.
I know, but I just ended up not liking it in retrospect. I prefer when they mix them like this and just let up choose from pretty much every pokemon before we even get to the post game.
fredrancour
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My bold
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Diprosalic
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I was pretty pleased with the 100+ we got each gen. I was also looking forward to normal evo to single evo pokemon and i"m usually digging the weird novelty ones like the ape trio or the fighting trio. 70 is just barely enough to get the essential ones like starters, three stage bird, furrythingy, fossils and legendaries.
Also a lot seem to be fairy types. :/
Black-Wind
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There really shouldn't be..
I truly have no clue why GF makes so many legendary Pokemon other than to pop a a new movie every year..
If we're not getting 100+ pokes then the least they could do is keep it at the basics. (Z and a pixie and a Mewtwo like mon)
Dr. Buni
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I doubt that would happen. I recall Masuda saying that there would be no DLC for Pokémon games.
If there is no post game content, I might try to hold back until we get a Z version. Or I can still justify getting Y by setting it to Italian. I'll just wait a few days more and hope the entire game leaks so I can make up my mind. But if they pull that Black2\White2 crap I'll be seriously pissed. I have never owned a third version 
There will still be event pokemon which can be distributed like DLC without needing to have the data already on the cart.
I disagree. The sense of awe and excitement of discovering new Pokemon was so appealing. I didn't care much for Black 2 or White 2 once they started including past Pokemon.
ColtraineGF
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Well obviously, why wouldn't they have a lot of the brand new type they're introducing.
And besides, sometimes "the patterns" don't work out. For example, no rodent. But it's not even that big of a deal, with the huge amount of Pokemon even before the first badge.
Lord_Byron28
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I can't see them breaking the tradition of no trio and if they give us legendaries like Xerneas and Yveltal I have no complaints. Granted they've been breaking a lot of traditions with this gen.
Yeah I was gonna post this but I really don't get his philosophy of no dlc but still includes those event pokes.
Speaking of which we only knew about event pokes because we had hacked nintendo handhelds. Since this is the first not fully hacked Nintendo handheld will we not know of the event legends beforehand.
Dr. Buni
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He said there would be no DLC, so unless he changes his mind, that won't happen either. Still, 70 new Pokémon only in XY + 30 new others in Z or X2Y2 could be an interesting way of creating some hype for the next Gen VI games, me thinks.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I guess all the Pokemon we've yet to see are probably gonna be one-stage evolutions...
Carbink, Hawlucha, Orotto, probably Binacle too.
Carbink, Hawlucha, Orotto, probably Binacle too.
Diprosalic
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I know but i'm not digging the fairy type. The retyped mons were among of my least favorites in the past.
There is a two stage bunny so that pattern still exists.
ColtraineGF
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I mean, if you're in it for the "discovery of Pokemon", then why are you in this thread anyhow? Just go on blackout like the other people not following this massive leak.
(note: this is not at you dipro)
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(note: this is not at you dipro)
I saw Bunnelby as the male counterpart to Lopunny. But I guess it would be like one, considering it's right before
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dakkumauji
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Based off that coastal Pokedex floating around, it does look like Carbink and Hawlucha are one-stages.
No one has seen an Orotto yet, lol.
Binacle might possibly have an evolution since there is an unknown spot after it in the coastal Pokedex.
All he said that there would be no paid DLC so I'm expecting gamefreak to do the same type of events they do now but with mega stones as well.
Dr. Buni
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No, he said there would be no kind of DLC, free or paid, because that would make the games "feel incomplete" or something. I understand his reasoning, but I wouldn't mind some free DLC here and there tbh. Mega Stone events are different because the content is likely already in the cartridge, just waiting to be unlocked.
Velcro Fly
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I think I'm more excited about Spotpass and using that for event stuff than anything else.
I'm pretty much a noob when it comes to stuff outside of just playing the main game. I hate trying to go to GameStop to get event stuff. I couldn't even get online to battle/trade until Gen V. Spotpass is simple and easy and hopefully they use it.
That said, the Coastal and Central Dexes have a neat variety. I knew we'd get a ton of variety with many new pokemon being Fairy type to populate it.
I think once Bank is available it will be piss easy to start up a file, transfer some really low level pokemon that you want to use for the main game, and use whatever you want regardless of availability in game.
I'm pretty much a noob when it comes to stuff outside of just playing the main game. I hate trying to go to GameStop to get event stuff. I couldn't even get online to battle/trade until Gen V. Spotpass is simple and easy and hopefully they use it.
That said, the Coastal and Central Dexes have a neat variety. I knew we'd get a ton of variety with many new pokemon being Fairy type to populate it.
I think once Bank is available it will be piss easy to start up a file, transfer some really low level pokemon that you want to use for the main game, and use whatever you want regardless of availability in game.
But at the moment you can only have one mega evolution per team (unless I missed something), so putting in more mega evolutions than evolutions would be a waste.
ColtraineGF
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He probably means the type of stuff he'd put into a 3rd game - no new areas and the like.
Game Freak has always done Pokemon DLC, for every single game. You'd know them as "events", of course. Since no one really knows how the data is laid out in XY, there's nothing stopping Game Freak from actually putting new Pokemon on your cart, since to the user it would still be seen as "unlocking an event".
Game Freak has always done Pokemon DLC, for every single game. You'd know them as "events", of course. Since no one really knows how the data is laid out in XY, there's nothing stopping Game Freak from actually putting new Pokemon on your cart, since to the user it would still be seen as "unlocking an event".
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Heliolisk looks "incomplete" because its frills are folded
The rumors about there being no post game make this pretty funny.
Edit: A post in the starter thread has me curious, what do we know about HMs in these games?
Beast Legacy
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This person speaks the truth.
GasProblem
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Just woke up and saw Chestnaught.
Yeah, Greninja it is:
My team so far:
Greninja, Charizard, Tyrantrum, Hawlucha, Spritzee.
Yeah, Greninja it is:
My team so far:
Greninja, Charizard, Tyrantrum, Hawlucha, Spritzee.
I can't imagine there is no post-game. None at all.
Every game since Emerald has had AT LEAST a Battle Frontier. The most recent games BW2 went above and beyond to give us crazy amounts of post game content with all the legendaries and towns and the Pokemon World Tournament, the best mode.
I think this guy is either full of crap, or more likely just not looking hard enough.
Every game since Emerald has had AT LEAST a Battle Frontier. The most recent games BW2 went above and beyond to give us crazy amounts of post game content with all the legendaries and towns and the Pokemon World Tournament, the best mode.
I think this guy is either full of crap, or more likely just not looking hard enough.
There is secretly Hoenn region and it's all a conspiracy.
Black-Wind
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I'm starting to be okay with 70ish new pkmn. As someone who hasn't caught em all since RBY, I have a lot missing, and the new art style makes everyone sorta feel new to me. I was excited to see ferroseed in its new model, and I hate that guy.
Also, megas are awesome. Give me some Arcanine please!
Also, megas are awesome. Give me some Arcanine please!
Not sure if posted, but after tonight's Chespin revelation I looked at an archived 4chan thread that previously described it's final evolution.
http://archive.foolz.us/vp/thread/14056758
He described all three starters and their correct types before they were properly leaked. He also goes on to say there's only 70 new Pokémon and very little end game content. I know those two rumors were already known, but this puts some more credibility to it. Hopefully this guy just didn't look hard enough. Post game stuff is some of the best stuff in Pokémon games.
http://archive.foolz.us/vp/thread/14056758
He described all three starters and their correct types before they were properly leaked. He also goes on to say there's only 70 new Pokémon and very little end game content. I know those two rumors were already known, but this puts some more credibility to it. Hopefully this guy just didn't look hard enough. Post game stuff is some of the best stuff in Pokémon games.
HawthorneKitty
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PaulExcellent
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Woah, man.
That's some real talk, there.
Woah.
I want this posted at the beginning of every new Pokemon thread.
Awkward. I'm trying to avoid reading this thread in case there are newer spoilers. My friend gave me a rant about how lazy GF were and we ended talking about that thread.
I don't agree, it would be "fucking awful". I think this has to do with fanbases just rationalizing buying something that could be better, people do that a lot with purchases now. People will most likely not out right say "70 Pokemon and a shitton of Megalutions with no post game is shit GF, FIX IT". They will instead say "3D models are hard work, its a balancing gen etc." this is why I like kick starters to an extent, once I put so much money in the project, you can't fuck me over on content.
Black-Wind
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I'm not.
This gen is so confusing. How could a gen that gives use TREX/ Lion/ FoxandFrog-mid-stage/ Mega Char x- Blaze- Mawile- Lucario- Mewtwos and this new Eevee evol yet have so many Pokemon I'm completely apathetic to at best?!?!?
I NEED more! More chances to not be disgusted or let down by what we have.
LoftyTheMetroid
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That's actually my problem, and why I'll be disappointed with this gen if GF decides to (yet again) add a lot of monsters while ignoring the broken ones they leave behind.
We always get the new Pidgey and Rattata, the useless one-offs and what have you. They're just thrown in and forgotten, adding little substance while bloating the roster. It often feels like there are only a handful of interesting monsters when all is said and done.
That's why I like new evolutions. They don't add as much "weight" to the roster as an entirely new monster line, it balances the game and adds more diversity, and supports established fanbases for those monsters by giving them something to cheer about.
Raticate not doing much? Make it into a competitive Normal/Poison based on a rat king and call it Rattiking.
Muk wasting space? Hold this metal orb and evolve into a Poison/Steel blob of mercury.
Rapidash looking glum? Enjoy your Fire/Flying Pegasus, bitch.
Instead, we've got a huge quantity of Pokémon with little quality. Mega evolutions are definitely a step in the right direction (especially for 3-stage Pokémon that can't evolve again), but the limits of the mechanic means we still need standard evolutions. (Or, at least, heavily adjust movepools, abilities, or even base stats to get older Pokémon up to speed.)
Boss Doggie
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The guy that said 70 Pokemon also said Greninja is Water/Fighting
That is beyond gross.
He says Water/Dark in that thread, and then people stop believing him because earlier "leaks" and rumours suggested Water/Fighting. So he was spot on.
Yeah most of them are just new adaptations of older Pokémon's themes (3 tier bug, 3 tier bird, 2 tier fire dog/lion, etc), evolutions of older Pokémon, or just shitty designs (binnacle, espurr, that magical rock, etc).
Personally I would have rather had GF make a RSE remake as their first 3D game. It'd give them more time to make more/better Gen VI Pokémon and not have the excuse that making 3D models for every Pokémon caused them to not make that many new ones.
No he doesn't. He reveals the correct typing for all the third evos (water/dark, fire/psychic, grass/fighting), it's the other people in the thread that are asking if it's water/dark or pure water. He later describes the appearance of the grass and fire third evolutions. Also, he claims that the box art Pokémon are numbered 715/716, meaning it's most likely 70 Pokémon assuming there aren't tons after the box art Pokémon (which never really happens unless there's a ton of legendaries).
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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This, I'm really bummed out that Kalos might be emulating one of my least favorite aspects of the Johto games, but worse.
Ok guys, relax. We haven't had any confirmation of # of new pokes in this game. Even if this is the case, there will still be plenty of variety in the metagame to satiate us. Lets. Wait until someone completes the dex for sure before we judge gamefreak. Their track record is nigh impeccable. Just enjoy the ride.
LoftyTheMetroid
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They could make it cute. Imagine a plump, clean-shaven Raticate with a crown, and four smaller Rattata tied to its tail as its loyal servants.
It'd be Slowbro- or Mantine-esque in including other Pokémon into its design, which I've always liked.
(...I've thought a lot about these sorts of things...)
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