Pokemon X and Y Leaks, Releases Early
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Another reason I think Megas are the dumbest ideas to have been introduced to Pokemon.
AmICoolYet
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Pumpkaboo, Gourgeist, and that Ice thing.
Um, isn't the middle one named pumpkaboo in the screenshot. And the first one has a different name entirely that is eluding me right now. I'm pretty sure that is the pre-evo to orotto
Which is why I am not a fan of Mega Evolutions, I don't count them as new Pokémon or new evolution.
Really disappointed.
I would have been fine with Mega Evolutions if they didn't count towards the new Pokémon count and we had past gen Pokémon getting new traditional evolutions.
Now unless there's more Pokémon post game, then Game Freak messed up.
Letterbomb
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This would be utterly fantastic. Oh my dear God.
UberTag
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It's not confirmed.
Aren't the robust and supposedly fantastic online features going to make up for any lack of post game stuff in single player anyway?
I'm not upset about the low pokemon count. I love the fact that they're breathing new life into older gens and giving people reason to include them in their teams. I don't see the value on just adding more pokemon every gen when there's this many already.
I'm not upset about the low pokemon count. I love the fact that they're breathing new life into older gens and giving people reason to include them in their teams. I don't see the value on just adding more pokemon every gen when there's this many already.
kingofthedead45
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I mean we still have to get through to the 8th badge right? Then there's I'm sure some form of Victory road where there will undoubtedly be new pokemon right? And then there's the elite four themselves, they always have unique pokemon in there parties right? There's still some more to go! Right??
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I was interested in them at first, but seeing the clear toll new Pokemon had to take in order for them to happen really soured me on the concept.
Also, Lucario with 145~ ATK and Adaptability is fucking stupid.
A majority are lazy designs, a few look cool, and a lot just ruin the aesthetics of some of our favorite pokemon.
This is all a play of marketing for nostalgia reasons to excite and perhaps bring back some old players, as well as a bit of fan service for customers who never left.
If they decided to add some regular evos to old pokemon, I probably wouldn't have minded as much. But what we got was a silly name and silly looking pokemon in exchange for them working on creating all new creatures for us to love.
HypnoDarkrai
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But.. The third eye!
Velcro Fly
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Hoping for just Ghost or keep Ghost/Poison
either way normal Gengar is a lock for OU again
That's a pimple. I'll go for any excuse if it means it stays Ghost/Poison.
Common sense?
AmICoolYet
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Mega pokemon show up; new species number goes down. You can't explain that!
Well, they are spending time on Mega Evolutions that they could be using designing brand new Pokemon. That said, if we weren't getting Mega Evolutions we'd just be getting a ton of regular evolutions for old Pokemon instead.
HypnoDarkrai
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Hahahaha
Never thought of that!
4x weak to dark and ghost, as well as a bug weakness.
ManBearPanda
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So I've got a question which I haven't seen asked (if it has been, sorry): are ribbons back? Even if there aren't new ones, can we see the old ones on our pokemon?
Velcro Fly
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Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Its basic logic, if they're going to design a bunch of pseudo-evolutions for older Pokemon, time and effort would have to be taken away from the new roster.
Starfish Hero
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I think it's because Fairy is getting a lot of hype and Poison is SE against it. Plus it has a 4x weakness to Dark and Ghost, and people tend to exaggerate how big of a deal that is.
Sucker Punch murders it anyway.
dakkumauji
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Wouldn't ghost negate the bug weakness unless that got changed in this new game?
4x Dark
4x Ghost
Cripples Gengar who already sucks defensively. Loses Fairy-killing potential. Psychic ain't that great for coverage either. Just bad all round really.
The stats page doesn't seem to have a spot for them, but there's a good chance they're still in the data structure of the Pokemon. If RSEmake rolls around you'll probably be able to see the ones on whatever you've transferred over from Gen 3/4.
AmICoolYet
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Poison has a lot of good resistances, especially with fairy looking to be a strong typing. And adding psychic to ghost only doubles it's weaknesses and removes it's bug resistance.
Pumpkaboo, Gourgeist, and that Ice thing.
THIS IS AWESOME
UberTag
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The source is always 4chan. Which is a real shame.
peanutbutterlatte
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You're right, that's very basic logic.
Ultimadrago
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So Mega Gyarados confirmed to stay Water/Flying? Ah well, I'm still going to get it, ofc.
DragonKnight
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My only complaint out of all these pokes is that this gen doesnt feel...cohesive. if that makes any sense.
They gave us over 150 last gen so if they really wanted to they could have made more than 70 Pokemon + however many Mega Pokemon we end up getting. They simply chose not to make more when they obviously could have done more and there's no way to know whether they did it because of them counting the Mega Pokemon or them just not wanting more.
I will admit that the "If we didn't have Mega Pokemon they would just be evos of old Pokemon" argument is pretty decent though.
UberTag
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I wouldn't say confirmed. They've got that typing asterisked so it's clearly a supposition.
The guy who maintains this chart likes to assume typing when it remains unknown.
The guy who maintains the other chart that's been updated steadily keeps things ambiguous and doesn't presume.
ManBearPanda
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Aw okay, thanks. I just had a couple of pokemon I've used since Emerald which have a lot of ribbons and would've been awesome to see here.
entremet
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I think it being the first 3D game does that. GF is still getting used it. Hopefully, this means the Gen III 3DRemake will be awesome as result.
Velcro Fly
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Now that Mega Gengar has been revealed, I'm more curious about it's movepool. Will it get a good Fairy type move? Might even be worth it to get one with Sludge Bomb ready on Black 2 in case it isn't a TM in Gen VI.
Also was there anything new said about Gen III remakes today or something?
Also was there anything new said about Gen III remakes today or something?
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