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[NullPointer]

This is the first time that the government has completely fucking infuriated me. I'm talking rage. The GOP is doing actually sabotaging the economy, when at fucking last it was showing some signs of recovery.

Whatever they do it'll end up being put on Obama. "It happened on his watch", "he was too weak to stop it", or "he was unwilling to compromise". Take your pick.

If there is anything the party of personal responsibility knows, its how to avoid accountability and shift the blame.

Its maddening.

 

[Big Baybee]

There is no difference between the two parties.....


.....right guys?

 

[ridethepiggy]

If you think our monetary system is the equivalent of a ponzi scheme why should anyone bother to respond to your posts?

We shouldnt respond. This is his shtick.

 

[JavyOO7]

I'm pretty sure democrats have some districts that are Gerrymandered to all hell too. Though to be honest I can't tell you which states since I haven't checked. Maybe California? Or is that state completely blue when it comes to districts.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

I'm pretty sure democrats have some districts that are Gerrymandered to all hell too. Though to be honest I can't tell you which states since I haven't checked. Maybe California? Or is that state completely blue when it comes to districts.

No, democrats also do it. Gerrymandering as a whole is bad.

 

[Riki]

I'm pretty sure democrats have some districts that are Gerrymandered to all hell too. Though to be honest I can't tell you which states since I haven't checked. Maybe California? Or is that state completely blue when it comes to districts.

California has a lot of red districts in it. But the large cities all vote blue, and they count for more of the vote.

 

[The Librarian]

I'm pretty sure democrats have some districts that are Gerrymandered to all hell too. Though to be honest I can't tell you which states since I haven't checked. Maybe California? Or is that state completely blue when it comes to districts.

CA has a non-partisan redistricting committee.

 

[Megadragon15]

Honestly, Boehner is taking a pretty tough stance here. He flat out said if Obama doesn't give into what they want despite the fact Dems already have, the default will occur. He is basically putting this all on the President by acting like default is out of his hands when it is not.

Yes. The longer this goes on, the more the public will blame Obama and the Democrats. Its absolutely a brilliant move just in time for the midterm elections next year. The GOP has a very good chance of winning the Senate and gaining House seats.

 

[Guerilla]

There is no difference between the two parties.....


.....right guys?

Just because there is a difference doesn't mean they're not both fucking terrible.

 

[ridethepiggy]

Yes. The longer this goes on, the more the public will blame Obama and the Democrats. Its absolutely a brilliant move just in time for the midterm elections next year. The GOP has a very good chance of winning the Senate and gaining House seats.

Lol no. Its a dumbass move.

 

[Riki]

Just because there is a difference doesn't mean they're not both fucking terrible.

One is actively trying to kill the country. The other isn't.
I'd definitely say one is terrible and the other just needs a backbone (which they seem to have now).

 

[Kusagari]

Yes. The longer this goes on, the more the public will blame Obama and the Democrats. Its absolutely a brilliant move just in time for the midterm elections next year. The GOP has a very good chance of winning the Senate and gaining House seats.

lol that's the worst move possible. People will blame the GOP more and it will actually be fresh in Americans fickle minds if this drags on and on.

 

[Colonel Nasty]

All Obama has to do is a quick state of the union and say "The United States of America does not negotiate with terrorists" drop mic.

 

[Link]

Yes. The longer this goes on, the more the public will blame Obama and the Democrats. Its absolutely a brilliant move just in time for the midterm elections next year. The GOP has a very good chance of winning the Senate and gaining House seats.

It's not nice to freak out Diablos.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

lol that's the worst move possible. People will blame the GOP more and it will actually be fresh in Americans fickle minds if this drags on and on.

Depends on the people. Nobody knows how a long shutdown will play out. Republicans have no reason to compromise, Obama just won 17 of the house repub districts in 2012.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

Yes. The longer this goes on, the more the public will blame Obama and the Democrats. Its absolutely a brilliant move just in time for the midterm elections next year. The GOP has a very good chance of winning the Senate and gaining House seats.

This shutdown won't last any more than two weeks. It's a done deal.

 

[Cloudy]

Honestly, Boehner is taking a pretty tough stance here. He flat out said if Obama doesn't give into what they want despite the fact Dems already have, the default will occur. He is basically putting this all on the President by acting like default is out of his hands when it is not.

This is only because the media is letting him get away with it. He said there are no votes for a clean CR this morning and Stephanopolous didn't debunk that or ask him to prove it by bringing the bill to the floor. That seems like the obvious response from a good jounalist but it never happened....

 

[Hot Coldman]

There is no difference between the two parties.....


.....right guys?

As a Brit I'm actually super jealous of how fucking vastly different the GOP and Democrats are right now. :lol

 

[Guerilla]

One is actively trying to kill the country. The other isn't.
I'd definitely say one is terrible and the other just needs a backbone (which they seem to have now).

They're both Wall Street puppets, one just went nuts and will probably implode. Doesn't mean the other is a rational option.

 

[Liberty4all]

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line, imho.

 

[ridethepiggy]

They're both Wall Street puppets, one just went nuts and will probably implode. Doesn't mean the other is a rational option.

And you vote for...?

 

[SoulPlaya]

We've already cut spending by a massive amount. We don't need to do so, anymore. At this point, the cuts in spending are endangering GDP growth.

 

[low-G]

I wish I could be happy about democrats having complete power over US politics from 2014-2064 but lately they seem as bad as the old GOP...

RIP America

 

[Riki]

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line. imho.

They're still people. They could choose not to destroy the country. They didn't. They're just as much to blame as the people telling them to do it.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line, imho.

Then they should stop the funding for their districts only, not the whole US government.

They are economic terrorists plain and simple.

 

[ridethepiggy]

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line.
imho.

Really? So if the constituents want to bring back slavery and the politicians representing them push for it we shoudnt call them racist bigots? Also you do realize that there are many GOP House members that support a clean resolution but Boehner wont bring it to the floor, right?

 

[Hot Coldman]

And you vote for...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT_BuJAI70

 

[Thatonemoor]

They're both Wall Street puppets, one just went nuts and will probably implode. Doesn't mean the other is a rational option.

Isn't Wall Street going crazy right now because the shutdown has made the market extreme hectic? If anything both parties are doing what wall street doesn't want right now.

 

[Chumly]

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line, imho.

How is it over the line? What they are doing is the definition of terrorism. They are committing economic terrorism to further their political agenda. Deliberately shutting down the government unless people give in to their demands. Honestly I don't see how this could be any more clear cut.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Just because there is a difference doesn't mean they're not both fucking terrible.

Hilarious, considering Dems are the main reason we have any sort of social reform and progress, dating back all the way to the 30s.

 

[Trakdown]

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line, imho.

The Nuremberg defense. Awesome.

 

[entremet]

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line, imho.

Most people are for the ACA, even Republicans. However when its phrased Obamacare, it's automatically derided

This obstructionism is not from the grassroot GOP voters against Obamacare, but from the monied interest in the Repubican party.

Major legislation is not longer driven by grassroots interests, but by monied interest.

 

[Crayons]

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line, imho.

 

[The Librarian]

They're both Wall Street puppets, one just went nuts and will probably implode. Doesn't mean the other is a rational option.

Last time I checked, Larry Summers isn't Fed chair.

 

[ridethepiggy]

Hilarious, considering Dems are the main reason we have any sort of social reform and progress, dating back all the way to the 30s.

Dont you know that false equivalencies are hip nowadays?

 

[Rebel Leader]

should have underlined the political aims part tooo

 

[Drazgul]

http://i.imgur.com/rV1uyBF.png

And, not or.

 

[Thatonemoor]

Even though I agree with you that definition doesn't work because it says "and" not "or"

 

[heliosRAzi]

They're both Wall Street puppets, one just went nuts and will probably implode. Doesn't mean the other is a rational option.

Rational, in this case, is relative; and the Dems are very rational at the moment - they are not actively trying to ruin the country.

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line, imho.

Although it is kind of inflammatory language, consider that they are kind of using the same tactics of fear and hostage-taking to get their way. They may not be killing people, but if the US were to default, that would affect the entire world, not just us.

 

[EatinOlives]

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line, imho.

The constituents actually supporting a government shutdown over this are very much in the minority. The fact that it's the wishes of those constituents and nobody else's that are being respected means there's something seriously wrong with this process.

 

[The Librarian]

Well, it does say "and."

 

[Crayons]

Well, it does say "and."

And, not or.

Even though I agree with you that definition doesn't work because it says "and" not "or"

Okay. They're half terrorists.

 

[Riki]

Well, it does say "and."

We just need a loose definition of violence.

 

[Guerilla]

Isn't Wall Street going crazy right now because the shutdown has made the market extreme hectic? If anything both parties are doing what wall street doesn't want right now.

The ultra right party is just protecting its corporate overlords from health care costs and its HMO overlords from being "forced" not to scam people.

 

[ridethepiggy]

The ultra right party is just protecting its corporate overlords from health care costs and its HMO overlords from being "forced" not to scam people.

Smh. The complete and utter ignorance is amazing. So you're against all insurance, right? No auto, no renters insurance. It's all a scam. Right?

 

[Rebel Leader]

We just need a loose definition of violence.

Found

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

 

[Guerilla]

Smh. The complete and utter ignorance is amazing. So you're against all insurance, right? No auto, no renters insurance. It's all a scam. Right?

So why are republicans doing this in your opinion?

 

[alstein]

At this point, if you cave, what's to keep the Republicans from doing it again?

You're going to have to show a spine at some point- I think this is the point where Dems have decided to make their stand no matter what happens. It's also the time where they'll suffer the least amount of damage politically.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

While I dislike what they are doing, the Republicans spearheading this are following the wishes of their constituents ... Calling them terrorists is way over the line, imho.

Their constituents are drones. The politicians don't follow their constituents, their constituents follow their politicians (and Fox News).

 

[Demon Ice]

Congrats, Republicans. You surpassed everyone's expectations about just how far you're willing to go to get what you want.

Bunch of whiny, petulant fucking sore losers.