Pokemon X and Y Leaks, Releases Early

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R0ckman said:
This gen actually convinced me to end here. I never thought it would happen, I get 3D I get customization of my character I get like a handful of mons this gen Im not tempted to drag behind a shed a finish off. If the 3rd upgrade game can save things then more power to it. The pluses of 3D will be a nice experience with old favs, but after that, i have nothing left.

The decision was based on a mixture of things. Like seeing a thread in another forum revealing the Z legendary. I open the thread and see its pic and Im like

"... Oh..Coo... Wait... Face is fucked up... Shame"

Look at the responses I'm seeing "cools" "awesomes" and "gimmies". I literally felt like everyone around me had finally just lost it all and went full batshit. Kind of like when I was doing this charity thing with my wife and there were all these free toys for kids, the little girls had pretty good taste. But the boys (in first 2nd grade) would come up and see a cool dinosaur but instead become fixated on a worn out play container with nothing on it? Wtf? I guess the same reasoning applies to older people and pokemon designs.
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Well, damn. Don't you sound like someone who thinks people are "batshit" crazy because they like something you don't.

-_-'
 
Fireblend said:
Yeah, if you're starting to think character designs are too ridiculous and over-the-top in a Pokemon game, there's a serious mismatch between expectations and reality somewhere along your train of thought.
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This was just a small nitpick. However, I don't think's it's unreasonable to prefer normal looking people, since I believe that it makes the game and experience feel more real. Gen 1 or 2 didn't have that problem. Gen 3 only had 1 or 2 ones that were *maybe* over the top, and since then with each passing gen it seems to have gotten progressively worse.

But I digress.
 
I'm fine with the number of new Pokémon.

We have ~70 all-new species, plus an unknown number of Mega Evolutions (nearly 20 so far), and the possibility of event Pokémon, alternate forms and more Mega Evolutions (in-game or otherwise).

Remember, even-numbered generations (II, IV, VI) tend to have less Pokémon and serve more of an expansion role. In terms of the number of all-new designs, this generation is on par with II and IV when you include the Mega Evolutions. And you should include the Mega Evolutions, unless you're going to discount, say, the dozens of evolutions like Magmortar, Electivire, etc, which were introduced in Gen IV.

Mega Evolutions also explain the fewer legendaries, since the whole purpose of Mega Evolution is to take popular or under-utilized Pokémon and elevate them to the equivalent of legendary status with powerful stats, abilities and typing. Hence the limitation on their usage -- sort of a formalized version of the rules regulating legendary use in competitions, anyways.

Then take into consideration how you have a strong mix of the previous five generations of Pokémon. For every 6.4 old Pokémon you encounter in the wild, you encounter a brand-new Pokémon. When we're talking 450 Pokémon in the Kalos dex, that's not bad. And that's not even taking into account the Mega Evolutions.

Certain types are barely represented by the new Pokémon, but again, taking a more holistic look at the situation, it makes sense -- there are already plenty of Poison-type Pokémon in the five generations prior, for example, so if Skrelp and Dragalge are among the only new ones, so be it.

Speaking of Dragalge, she is a stellar example of a wonderful new type combination we got -- Poison/Dragon, neutralizing damage from Fairy-types and hitting back with STAB attacks. We got a number of interesting type combinations this gen, including:

  • Fairy
  • Normal/Ground
  • Fire/Normal
  • Steel/Ghost
  • Dark/Psychic
  • Poison/Dragon
  • Electric/Normal
  • Rock/Dragon
  • Rock/Ice
  • Fighting/Flying
  • Electric/Fairy
  • Rock/Fairy
  • Fairy/Steel
  • Ghost/Grass
  • Normal/Fairy
  • Flying/Fairy
  • Water/Fairy
  • Psychic/Fairy
  • Ghost/Psychic
And personally, many of these designs are just INCREDIBLE. All three legendaries -- Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde -- are top-shelf. So are (in no particular order) Clawitzer, Dragalge, Goodra, Treverant, Malamar, Pangoro, Talonflame, Diggersby, Gogoat, Pyroar, Meowstic, Aegislash, Noivern, Tyrantrum, etc.

Really, I like every Pokémon in some way. Depending on my mood, I find myself drawn to one, and then another. For example, yesterday I was really digging Avalugg, which reminds me of a glacier combined with an AT-AT. These days I can't get enough of Clawitzer and Dragalge.

So I'm quite happy with this generation's expansion of the Pokémon pantheon. I just want to know if there are more Mega Evolutions, and then I want to see all of the Sugimori art for each and every new design.
 
I'm just imagining all that water and trees in Hoenn updated with the BW engine omfffffff

Or the volcanic area ffffff

Or the jungle fffff

3D Hoenn will come for wigs. Please please please make it happen GF ;_;
 
R0ckman said:
This gen actually convinced me to end here. I never thought it would happen, I get 3D I get customization of my character I get like a handful of mons this gen Im not tempted to drag behind a shed a finish off. If the 3rd upgrade game can save things then more power to it. The pluses of 3D will be a nice experience with old favs, but after that, i have nothing left.

The decision was based on a mixture of things. Like seeing a thread in another forum revealing the Z legendary. I open the thread and see its pic and Im like

"... Oh..Coo... Wait... Face is fucked up... Shame"

Look at the responses I'm seeing "cools" "awesomes" and "gimmies". I literally felt like everyone around me had finally just lost it all and went full batshit. Kind of like when I was doing this charity thing with my wife and there were all these free toys for kids, the little girls had pretty good taste. But the boys (in first 2nd grade) would come up and see a cool dinosaur but instead become fixated on a worn out play container with nothing on it? Wtf? I guess the same reasoning applies to older people and pokemon designs.
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Cat fetus as your avatar. Lol.

bill1148 said:
This was just a small nitpick. However, I don't think's it's unreasonable to prefer normal looking people, since I believe that it makes the game and experience feel more real. Gen 1 or 2 didn't have that problem. Gen 3 only had 1 or 2 ones that were *maybe* over the top, and since then with each passing gen it seems to have gotten progressively worse.

But I digress.
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Oh nostalgia.
 
If Togekiss is Fairy/Flying like people speculate, that means, thanks to Hawlucha's Fighting/Flying, Flying has now been paired with every Type...and is the only Type to do so.

All Water needs is Water/Fire i think and it'll accomplish that.
 
R0ckman said:
This gen actually convinced me to end here. I never thought it would happen, I get 3D I get customization of my character I get like a handful of mons this gen Im not tempted to drag behind a shed a finish off. If the 3rd upgrade game can save things then more power to it. The pluses of 3D will be a nice experience with old favs, but after that, i have nothing left.

The decision was based on a mixture of things. Like seeing a thread in another forum revealing the Z legendary. I open the thread and see its pic and Im like

"... Oh..Coo... Wait... Face is fucked up... Shame"

Look at the responses I'm seeing "cools" "awesomes" and "gimmies". I literally felt like everyone around me had finally just lost it all and went full batshit. Kind of like when I was doing this charity thing with my wife and there were all these free toys for kids, the little girls had pretty good taste. But the boys (in first 2nd grade) would come up and see a cool dinosaur but instead become fixated on a worn out play container with nothing on it? Wtf? I guess the same reasoning applies to older people and pokemon designs.
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Zygarde sucks, but you're ridiculous for ditch Pokemon because of that. There's ALWAYS shitty Pokemon in each gen and there are ALWAYS people that like them anyways.

Buying and playing the game is about you. Disagreeing with the majority opinion shouldn't detract from your enjoyment of the game itself.
 
bill1148 said:
This was just a small nitpick. However, I don't think's it's unreasonable to prefer normal looking people, since I believe that it makes the game and experience feel more real. Gen 1 or 2 didn't have that problem. Gen 3 only had 1 or 2 ones that were *maybe* over the top, and since then with each passing gen it seems to have gotten progressively worse.

But I digress.
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If you arent going to get the games just peace out.
 
bill1148 said:
This was just a small nitpick. However, I don't think's it's unreasonable to prefer normal looking people, since I believe that it makes the game and experience feel more real. Gen 1 or 2 didn't have that problem. Gen 3 only had 1 or 2 ones that were *maybe* over the top, and since then with each passing gen it seems to have gotten progressively worse.

But I digress.
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I can kind of see your point.

I mean, this game does have a 3000-year old, 9-foot giant. That's sort of new territory for Pokemon.

Personally I don't mind Pokemon moving into more "fantasy" elements, but I can see how some would prefer the original game's down-to-earth setting more so.
 
Watch Da Birdie said:
That's kind of weird, since we've seen a pic of a cut-scene that straight up says that Pokemon were killed for Yveltal.
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LALALALALALALALA
I'M NOT LISTENING

Damnit spoilers, I hadn't seen that one. I got to leave here sooner over later, lol.

Here's a specific quote from what I'm talking about
I know that it’s aimed at kids, but as a Pokemon fan for the past 15 years, I couldn’t help but wish for a story that appeals to fans of all ages.
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I've seen comments talking about predictability and the child friendly appeal that haunts these game's narrative (bar BW, imo) a lot.

Again, I'll judge it myself come time, but my expectations have been dampened.
 
Personally I never valued the "realistic-ness" or whatever that the first 2 gens supposedly had to begin with, much like I don't care when people bring up the "more badass looking trainers" in gen 1/2 thing. But to each their own.
 
Diamond and Pearl are bad because of the slow battles. The Pokemon variety is bad too, but it's the slow battles that stop me from replaying them.

Platinum is an improvement in nearly every way, including the battle speed. The changes to the Battle Frontier were especially good. However, I still just don't like Sinnoh as a region. Maybe I'm biased from my experience in Diamond and Pearl, maybe it's because I wish the Pokedex didn't have so many evolutions and preevolutions instead of new Pokemon lines, or maybe it's just thinking that Giratina looks way cooler in its altered form. Whatever's the case, Platinum is probably one of the most polished and stuff-packed Pokemon games.

R0ckman said:
Look at the responses I'm seeing "cools" "awesomes" and "gimmies". I literally felt like everyone around me had finally just lost it all and went full batshit. Kind of like when I was doing this charity thing with my wife and there were all these free toys for kids, the little girls had pretty good taste. But the boys (in first 2nd grade) would come up and see a cool dinosaur but instead become fixated on a worn out play container with nothing on it? Wtf? I guess the same reasoning applies to older people and pokemon designs.
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Holy shit R0ckman, you can't see the play value of a cardboard box?
 
What are the main Pokémon of gym leaders Valerie and Wulfric? I'm guessing Florges or Klefki for Valerie, and Avalugg for Wulfric?

Also, it appears the Champion's main Pokémon is Mega Gardevoir? Sort of her equivalent of Lance's Dragonite, Steve's Metagross, etc?
 
The store that sold the leaked copy of Pokemon is not open anymore. I remember renting PC games and buying SNES games in the early 90s there. Wow. Nintendo doesn't fuck around.
 
Watch Da Birdie said:
If Togekiss is Fairy/Flying like people speculate, that means, thanks to Hawlucha's Fighting/Flying, Flying has now been paired with every Type...and is the only Type to do so.

All Water needs is Water/Fire i think and it'll accomplish that.
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We finally got a Poison/Dragon type, all I need is a Water/Fire to complete my dream "awesome unique typing" list.

Actually, Grass/Fire would be pretty dope too.
 
Stumpokapow said:
The store that sold the leaked copy of Pokemon is not open anymore. I remember renting PC games and buying SNES games in the early 90s there. Wow. Nintendo doesn't fuck around.
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Hmm? The exact store location, or the store chain??

And I very much doubt Nintendo could shut down the entire business. Maybe if it were a tiny mom-and-pop shop.
 
Watch Da Birdie said:
If Togekiss is Fairy/Flying like people speculate, that means, thanks to Hawlucha's Fighting/Flying, Flying has now been paired with every Type...and is the only Type to do so.

All Water needs is Water/Fire i think and it'll accomplish that.
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Surprised they haven't already done it: a steam pokemon shouldn't be that hard of a concept.
 
Regiruler said:
Surprised they haven't already done it: a steam pokemon shouldn't be that hard of a concept.
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Water/Fire? How about a a fish resembling a lava lamp with globs of magma floating around inside? It could scoot around thermal vents on the ocean floor.

On a side note, still no dolphin Pokémon!
 
Neiteio said:
Water/Fire? How about a a fish resembling a lava lamp with globs of magma floating around inside? It could scoot around thermal vents on the ocean floor.
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As amazing as that sounds, crazy bioluminescence like that would either blind everything around it or get it eaten instantly.
 
Symphonic said:
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yis
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My best pokemon ever.
 
Zygarde turning people off the series? What

1. Zygarde is fucking awesome. Very simple design, could easily be a Kanto Pokemon
2. There are way worse Pokemon to be pissed at (Voltorb, Vanilluxe)
 
All the mega evolutions I've seen so far are nice and all, but all of them can't have been leaked yet right? There's still hope for Mega Tyranitar right?!? RIGHT?!?
 
Caladrious said:
As amazing as that sounds, crazy bioluminescence like that would either blind everything around it or get it eaten instantly.
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I don't mean in real life, I mean in Pokémon where you have all sorts of stupid shit that doesn't make sense. Plus, it would burn the hell out of anyone that tried to eat it. The lava blobs floating inside its translucent body would be the equivalent of warning patterns on poisonous insects.
 
Stumpokapow said:
The store that sold the leaked copy of Pokemon is not open anymore. I remember renting PC games and buying SNES games in the early 90s there. Wow. Nintendo doesn't fuck around.
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I expected as much, if they actually were charged $2000 per copy sold that wasn't retrieved. If they were small enough, I'd imagine that'd be too much for them...
 
Neiteio said:
I don't mean in real life, I mean in Pokémon where you have all sorts of stupid shit that doesn't make sense. Plus, it would burn the hell out of anyone that tried to eat it. The lava blobs floating inside its translucent body would be the equivalent of warning patterns on poisonous insects.
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It's actually hilarious to think about a pokemon ecosystem because there's absolutely no way anything would remain standing if pokemon took their hunts seriously.
 
MicH said:
Zygarde turning people off the series? What

1. Zygarde is fucking awesome. Very simple design, could easily be a Kanto Pokemon
2. There are way worse Pokemon to be pissed at (Voltorb, Vanilluxe)
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The last thing I'd describe Zygarde as is "simple". But that's to his credit, because looks scary with his hexagonal eyes and hood. I think the people using him as an excuse to drop the series were already on their way on and it's just serving as a convenient excuse.

Now I wonder what his inevitable Z form is.
 
Twisted-Gamer said:
This will also be my future team FYI

Gen 1: Cloyster
Gen 2: Crowbat
Gen 3: Exploud or Mawile
Gen 4: Luxray or Lucario
Gen 5: Chandelure
Gen 6: Pangoro or Tyrantrum
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omg I forgot you can now how have a full party with 1 Pokemon per gen. *O*

Jynx
Bellossom
Gardevoir
Togekiss
Volcarona
Dragalge
 
DR2K said:
What? Damn. How did they know which store leaked it?
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The person who posted the photos made his location clear; the store in question is the only independent game store in the city in question, but I assume Nintendo checked everywhere in the city.

Neiteio said:
Hmm? The exact store location, or the store chain??

And I very much doubt Nintendo could shut down the entire business. Maybe if it were a tiny mom-and-pop shop.
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It is an independent store.
 
Regiruler said:
Surprised they haven't already done it: a steam pokemon shouldn't be that hard of a concept.
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My idea for it was an angry Lobster that literally boiled because it was so mad.

Clawitzer would've made a nice Water/Fire honestly.
 
ffdgh said:
Since hackers can't mine the game for info, we're playing the waiting game for once =/.
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Please guys, there is a way to mine 3ds games, not many people right now do it (compared to DS times) but it isn't impossible.

I would be surprised if such a popular game like Pokemon wouldn't get datamined
 
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