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speaking of which, where in the hell is Biden? He hasn't been seen or heard from at all during this whole thing - which is especially odd given how instrumental he was during the fiscal cliff talks.

Granted, there's nothing for the White House to negotiate here, but still seems strange that he's been totally absent.
Unless he's casting a tiebreaker vote for the Senate, he probably should stay out of this.
 
4. Negotiate with the portion of the crew that is throwing a mutiny..
He tried this once already. And all we've got to show for those troubles is more mutinies, and since the threat of mutiny has been shown to be profitable, we're left with a guarantee of more to come down the line at every opportunity.

It's done. All the compromises have been made. It's over.

Like its been said before we're all standing around waiting for the Republicans to realize they've fucking lost.
 
speaking of which, where in the hell is Biden? He hasn't been seen or heard from at all during this whole thing - which is especially odd given how instrumental he was during the fiscal cliff talks.

Granted, there's nothing for the White House to negotiate here, but still seems strange that he's been totally absent.

Biden isn't needed for any of this since there is no deal to be made. Reid and Obama don't want the Republicans there is one to be had either. Were there one he'd be front and center.
 
Only if Luther got presidential bitch slap powers.

Don't remember which forum it was, but I remember having a conversation about what kind of super power you wanted, and one of the choices was the ability to summon Iggy Pop to appear, and punchout the designated target. The target would be imparted the knowledge of why they were being punched, and there were no consequences to the wielder of the power (or Iggy Pop) for performing this action. You had a total of 5 uses of the Iggy Pop power.

I'm pretty sure I'd have used up the Iggy Pop power this week, possibly all 5 uses on Boehner.
 
Don't remember which forum it was, but I remember having a conversation about what kind of super power you wanted, and one of the choices was the ability to summon Iggy Pop to appear, and punchout the designated target. The target would be imparted the knowledge of why they were being punched, and there were no consequences to the wielder of the power (or Iggy Pop) for performing this action. You had a total of 5 uses of the Iggy Pop power.

I'm pretty sure I'd have used up the Iggy Pop power this week, possibly all 5 uses on Boehner.
I'm up for funding research on this power.
 
Obama called Boehner this morning.
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Obama will tell us all about the call I'm sure in an hour or so.

rofl at this press release

Speaker Boehner's press secretary's summary of President Obama's call with Speaker Boehner:

The president called the speaker again today to reiterate that he won't negotiate on a government funding bill or debt limit increase.
 
I want to see a televised, live negotiation. Get it all out there, no taking points, no spin, just the facts and a resolution.



Except the only problem here is that Boehner is not respected the process of our Democracy, and threatens the very foundation of how our government works. All over the fact that he is a sore loser and is more concerned with his Speaker-ship than ending this foolhearted effort to undermine ACA because they lost at every democratic process.
 
There's nothing to negotiate about.

That's fine, Obama can just sit down and point out all of the concessions that have already been made and that he won't bend any further. Then boner can ramble on and show everyone that he's an idiot. But force everyone to see it. No closed doors with separate press releases telling different stories.
 
I agree with this. Healthcare Summit part 2.



Yea, it won't do anything because Republicans don't want to fund any of the Democratically vetted Affordable Care Act. They wish to defund it entirely, there is no middle ground on this issue with them, and Boehner does not want to lose his speakership because he is a weak leader.
 
Haha I'm so happy Obama isn't caving here. For the people saying he should have done this years ago, his whole platform was on negotiating and changing the partisanship in Washington so coming out in the beginning and plain out stating I'm not negotiating would have not been good.

Also I can't believe polls are showing people actually blame everyone for this situation. At this point, I've already accepted the default is coming
 
Yea, it won't do anything because Republicans don't want to fund any of the Democratically vetted Affordable Care Act. They wish to defund it entirely, there is no middle ground on this issue with them, and Boehner does not want to lose his speakership because he is a weak leader.
It will put the crazy in full display and shows everyone just what Obama is dealing with here.
 
Happy to get a text from my Father this morning saying he got the call to come back to work. He is a civilian working on a Army base and had been out since it all started. At least they don't have to be so stressed out about money for now.
 
Nah, not "The Republicans", just Boner and Obama in the Oval Office. Call him out on the carpet.

O, if it's just Boehner he will cry or something.



As my girlfriend says (who hates politics) "Boehner always cries because he lies so much he cant handle his own lies"



::Edit: Boehner needs to grow some balls.
 
I hope this is the ultimatum speech. The last straw. The I found my balls from the last few years speech.

The problem is that Obama would have to give half the country a lesson in civics before they'd understand what's even going on and why it's not his fault.
 
LOL I'm listening to Boehner asking the president to call. JESUS CHRIST. And now there's some lady going "Why don't they have a dialogue about how to move forward?" Are you fucking serious? Eat a big fat bag of dicks. YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO FUCK UP OUR ECONOMY!
 
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