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I'll do a proper comparison using a pc game.
the HUD will be sharp, as it will render it differently from the actual geometry
That pikes peak car at 1800 HP......hnnnng
WeAreStarStuff
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When I enlarge the images it's very clear; so I'm sure it would be even more apparent on the big screen in my living room. Please note that I have no doubt that 1080p looks significantly better, and have been a strong advocate for 1080p only this generation, it was just that I had a hard time seeing the difference with the aforementioned example before clicking on the images to enlarge them.
Well of course. If they're both displaying at 640x360, they'll look the same.
Agreed. I was so hyped I bought the GT3 PS2 bundle. I still have the red cardboard box, too.
SHADES
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My 2 girls just walked by as I scrolled onto this gif, they've just spent the last 10 minutes watching it over & over in hysterics, awesome gif.
ethomaz
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The source can be banned here but the GT franchise numbers are public.
VGC shipped over 70 million in March 2013.
With more GT5 sales (I think it was in every week in UK chartz) and GT6 late this year... over 80 million is possible for end of 2013.
This game sells like hotcakes
VGC shipped over 70 million in March 2013.
With more GT5 sales (I think it was in every week in UK chartz) and GT6 late this year... over 80 million is possible for end of 2013.
This game sells like hotcakes
This is photoshop's bicubic automatic. Everything gets smeary. In motion it will look worse. It's also not a fair comparison because when downsampled, image quality benefits slightly from the downsample.
native
upscaled
Very interesting, thanks for doing this.
I'm on a 27" imac right now and when viewing the images at full size I can definitely tell a difference, so much so it's worrying. On the other hand, iMac screens are very high quality. Chances are I won't, in next few years, have a tv with a display as clear as my iMac. Also, I am sitting about 18" away from my screen. When playing games on a console, I will be multiple feet away from the tv. My guess is, I personally won't be able to tell the difference if playing on a 46" tv.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
It will never happen.
The source can be banned here but the GT franchise numbers are public.
VGC shipped over 70 million in March 2013.
With more GT5 sales (I think it was in every week in UK chartz) and GT6 late this year... over 80 million is possible for end of 2013.
This game sells like hotcakes
Out of curiosity, Chartz shows 'shipped' numbers. Does Polyphony also show 'shipped' numbers? Sales are 2m higher on Polyphony's site, but not sure if that # is ' units shipped' or ' units sold'.
Either way, GT6 is pre-ordered and I can't wait.
P.S.: Sorry for posting Chartz screeny. It's been since removed. Please don't ban... (My fault for not reading ToS in full)
With that site being banned, is there any site that gives solid numbers on games? I try looking on NPD, but they seem to never have #s I'm looking for, or only things from many months earlier.
There isn't really. You kind of have to watch out for comments here and there for the most part from events or developers. GT numbers on the website aren't a common thing with other developers. Having said that, Forza is a medicore seller. It's like comparing Resistance to Halo, a bit of a joke comparison (Forza being the Resistance in this comparison).
I don't think most people will sitting 4-8ft or whatever away either.
Question: Does current gen games use internal scalers or does it depend on your TV/Receiver?
SwiftDeath
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Nope sales number for games are held close to the chest from what I can tell
Only those proud of the numbers state sales anywhere but at shareholder meetings
Remember when Microsoft said, "We are going to kill Sony at E3"? I just imagined a Kazified Syrio jumping out after the E3 conference and saying "We only say one thing to death. Not today."
I find it most notable when comparing the Helghan near the center of the screen and the blue particle effects in the top right quadrant. There is certainly a difference anyways.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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haha, you missed the part where those morons are now saying all games will run in 1080p and tha the gpu is actually a modified R9 280x.
ethomaz
Banned
PD is shipped for sure.Out of curiosity, Chartz shows 'shipped' numbers. Does Polyphony also show 'shipped' numbers? Sales are 2m higher on Polyphony's site, but not sure if that # is ' units shipped' or ' units sold'.
Either way, GT6 is pre-ordered and I can't wait.
P.S.: Sorry for posting Chartz screeny. It's been since removed. Please don't ban... (My fault for not reading ToS in full)
BTW I think every other publisher/developer can share the shipments of their franchise... I like PD to be that open.
Are you saying people will be sitting closer than 4 - 8ft? I actually think 4 - 8th is probably the norm or maybe even below average. I could be wrong though.
Definitely a difference (although I'm viewing from a monitor), not big enough for me to care which version I'm playing I must say.Here's a better example. Notice the blurring of all the textures. All options on high.
native 1920x1080
1600x900 upscaled
Here's a better example. Notice the blurring of all the textures. All options on high.
native 1920x1080
1600x900 upscaled
Wow, gross.
Oops. yeah, I meant will be sitting 4-8ft. Sorry about that.
I'm curious if they'd be as public with their numbers if they sold as many as Forza. Good on them for posting it anyways, though.
BlastProcessing
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Eh, I'm betting Gonff probably used the work email to verify. I doubt it's a big deal.
But ya CBoaT saying anything is surprising. Figured that deal was over until next year.
I really just wanted to see someone try a wrestling move on an unsuspecting person
Salvor.Hardin
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They look identical to me. Ryse got trashed for the 900p reveal for this differential? Wow.
CosmicQueso
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I swear I must be going blind because those two pics look identical to me. I want to see the difference, but I just can't. I can't see any blurring of textures and only the shape of the flame made me think you weren't playing a sick joke or posting the same picture twice.
ethomaz
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There are some trackers that show numbers from time to time... like GFK France, UK, Spain, etc... I think every six month they shows some games numbers.
Famitsu and Media Create release numbers every week for Japan.
NPD every month for US * the late time they closed the numbers but before 2012 was everything public *
Do you mean you literally can't, or you don't think it's worth making note of? Because if you literally can't, you do have bad eyes.
It doesnt even take into account that you will sit FAR away from the TV to notice the difference. I'd say 720p is still enough!
SEGAvangelist
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Ryse should look better as well because of the hardware scaler and whatever AA is added on top of that. I don't see 900p being a real problem for most people.
Now if it's 720p compared to 1080p and also minus some effects and lower framerates for third party titles... Xbox One could then look pretty bad in the multiplatform arena. That would be a worst case scenario for MS.
Haha it's probably just the monitor you are viewing the images on. If your monitor isn't very bright or sharp than difference will be hard to notice for most people. I do think, for the vast majority of people, the difference will be unnoticeable when playing on a tv.
Nevertheless, it still upsets me that all launch games aren't 1080p.
Lol, no he repeated what the edge article already stated. I'll be getting an xbox one in a year at the earliest. And that's if Halo 5 turns out good.
and I definitely won't buy one if there are red ring of death problems.
But both of those games have been completely re-worked, Ryse especially.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
my room is 14 ft long, I've just walk to the end and I can still see the difference.
Roland Deschain
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All those comparison pics do for me is show me how small the difference is, not how big.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
LMAO!
It's about you too, Sullichin.
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It will look worse in motion. This is photoshop scaling one frame at a time.
SwiftDeath
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NPD was publicly available prior to 2012?
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