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[Silky]

MMn. dedicated serverssss

 

[PureGone]

LoL

Great news! This is actually a good reason to buy an XBOne.

Because its free for the devs and won't effect you at all?

 

[bidguy]

Of course he did. They'll take whatever good news they can. True or false. Phil himself has been the source of false/misinformed statements.

like what ?

 

[LQX]

Well well well an actual game changer.



It's odd that MS didnt give dedicated servers away for free to everyone? Hah.

I edited my post. But MS has been going on and on about how cloud computations are whatever would make up for the lack of power matching that of PS4, so you would think a feature that would put in on par with the competition would be free for all developers.

 

[SeaOfMadness]

Omg. The double standard on here is getting ridiculous.

Author writes something positive: "Well, MS didn't say that so it's not true!!!"

MS spokesman says same thing: "Yeah right, that's an MS guy! PR! Can't trust what they say!!"

Can't lose, can you?

 

[2San]

Because its free for the devs and won't effect you at all?

I think having dedicated servers for most MP games will effect me very much.

 

[Pain]

like what ?

Well the latest one is that there was no time limit for game DVR. All it takes is a google search. I'm on mobile so sorry for no link.

 

[UNCMark]

Because its free for the devs and won't effect you at all?

Do you ever get tired spreading absolute bullshit in every MS thread? A dedicated server affects every single bloody user playing that game.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I think having dedicated servers for most MP games will effect me very much.

I'm curious to see how this affected people this gen considering we didn't get dedicated servers for every game and had just as much fun. I love this as well but I can play just as fine on a dedicated server provided game vs the latter. Let's not act like games are all of a sudden broke because they don't have dedicated servers.

 

[DopeyFish]

Because its free for the devs and won't effect you at all?

Because every game has dedicated servers if they require it, dedicated servers that will last the life of the system instead of disappearing when the devs go out of business or refuse to invest any more money in it?

This is like a seal of quality.

I'm curious to see how this affected people this gen considering we didn't get dedicated servers for every game and had just as much fun. I love this as well but I can play just as fine on a dedicated server provided game vs the latter. Let's not act like games are all of a sudden broke because they don't have dedicated servers.

Until you get to high level play... Which is huge on XBL. It's the epicenter of competitive console gaming, and every little bit counts.

 

[nampad]

Good because this probably means we will get dedicated servers for all games, which is great but should have been expected from gamers a long time ago in my opinion because of the multiplayer paywall. Paying for P2P mp was just stupid, now I can see some value.

Same goes for Sony now that I have to pay for online. PS+ already delivers value through the IGC but they argued the multiplayer paywall with better service, so I expect the same treatment from them.

 

[Crimson_Gold]

Omg. The double standard on here is getting ridiculous.

Author writes something positive: "Well, MS didn't say that so it's not true!!!"

MS spokesman says same thing: "Yeah right, that's an MS guy! PR! Can't trust what they say!!"

Can't lose, can you?

Considering that Respawn had to pay, I'm assuming that free servers via the cloud must be new. Only asking for clarification. Free servers is great and should be applauded. I just want clarification is all.

 

[Bsigg12]

Right and we knew cloud compute was going to be offered to devs for free

How is cloud compute = dedicated servers?

What do you actually think a dedicated server is? Serious question.

 

[BigDug13]

Dude, if you have trust issues, that's fine. But could you please stop spreading FUD in every single X1 thread? It's kind of tiresome. They've made it pretty clear what they mean in the article.

Spreading FUD? I'm just being realistic. MS has done nothing but muddy the waters of every message about the system and I hate that from any company. I'll call out bullshit where I see it and this cryptic message without specifics doesn't change that for me.

If you want to believe that Microsoft will host dedicated servers for all games for no money from developers, that's fine. I won't bother you anymore.

(Respawn said they had to pay, and they're timed exclusive to the platform...so...yeah)

 

[Nafai1123]

Good news for everyone.

 

[zou]

When you're talking about cloud servers, compute = processing resources which, as has been pointed out, is what "dedicated server" functionality would come from. This is opposed to cloud storage which I would imagine stuff like Forza's drivatar would use.

AWS calls it EC2 (Elastic Cloud Compute), listed under Computer & Networking
Google's calls theirs "Compute Engine"

MS offering free Live Compute resources as part of their cloud strategy: lol could be anything, we don't know

Amusing.

 

[USC-fan]

Again, you clearly haven't read the article. The MS rep refers to dedicated servers as a service available through Live Compute. He also says that Live Compute is free.

Xbox live compute has always been free. E tall about this on gaint bomb podcast from e3.

This has nothing to do with hosting all online multiplayer games.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Good because this probably means we will get dedicated servers for all games, which is great but should have been expected from gamers a long time ago in my opinion because of the multiplayer paywall. Paying for P2P mp was just stupid, now I can see some value.

Same goes for Sony now that I have to pay for online. PS+ already delivers value through the IGC but they argued the multiplayer paywall with better service, so I expect the same treatment from them.

I do as well. Seems like MSFT is bolstering it's network so it will pressure Sony to do the same.

 

[HawksWinStanley]

I'm curious to see how this affected people this gen considering we didn't get dedicated servers for every game and had just as much fun. I love this as well but I can play just as fine on a dedicated server provided game vs the latter. Let's not act like games are all of a sudden broke because they don't have dedicated servers.

Tell that to Gears fans.

Good news for everyone.

Not everyone it seems.

 

[DopeyFish]

Considering that Respawn had to pay, I'm assuming that free servers via the cloud must be new. Only asking for clarification. Free servers is great and should be applauded. I just want clarification is all.

Titanfall is coming out to PC too...

 

[Copenap]

Omg. The double standard on here is getting ridiculous.

Author writes something positive: "Well, MS didn't say that so it's not true!!!"

MS spokesman says same thing: "Yeah right, that's an MS guy! PR! Can't trust what they say!!"

Can't lose, can you?

Any person that actually believes MS would ever offer dedicated servers for free without any conditions is naive, it's as simple as that. How anyone can actually take anything from MS as fact after 9 out of 10 sentences from MS reps have been total pr spin and borderline lying is beyond me.

 

[level44]

Free for the dev, charge the player.

Haha pretty much. I'm guessing they'll be a Gold hike in price soon.

 

[bidguy]

Well the latest one is that there was no time limit for game DVR. All it takes is a google search. I'm on mobile so sorry for no link.

wow man youre right. thats a buttload of false statements you truly convinced me.

I'm curious to see how this affected people this gen considering we didn't get dedicated servers for every game and had just as much fun. I love this as well but I can play just as fine on a dedicated server provided game vs the latter. Let's not act like games are all of a sudden broke because they don't have dedicated servers.

well i didnt have a good time with gears 2 and the huge host advantages aswell as the constant lag spikes on mw2 or halo when playing with the wrong people.

playing battlefield 3 or gears 3 really shows how much dedis improve games. or at least help them.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

I think having dedicated servers for most MP games will effect me very much.

How Do you Know that ps4 Games wont offer dedicated Servers?

 

[gtj1092]

Still holding on to the free dedicated server idea lol. Why would the titanfall devs being paying for it if it were free?

MS has been saying free compute from the beginning but not once have the words "free" "dedicated" and "servers" ever been strung together.

I mean if it is true it should a simple enough thing to clarify.

 

[unholyrevenger72]

Free dedicated servers for all multiplayer games is a huge deal. I hope Sony announces something similar, for the betterment of all gamer-kind.

What for? the Devs can run their PS4 servers off of Azure...

 

[UNCMark]

I edited my post. But MS has been going on and on about how cloud computations are whatever would make up for the lack of power matching that of PS4, so you would think a feature that would put in on par with the competition would be free for all developers.

I agree that the cloud computation stuff should be free to all regardless since MS is saying that it's basically their "secret sauce". If this story is accurate and it also includes free dedicated servers for all devs, then I don't think that it should be expected to be free. And I guess people are still waiting for Phil to confirm or deny it.

 

[2San]

I'm curious to see how this affected people this gen considering we didn't get dedicated servers for every game and had just as much fun. I love this as well but I can play just as fine on a dedicated server provided game vs the latter. Let's not act like games are all of a sudden broke because they don't have dedicated servers.

Good for you, but I have 100/100 connection with low ping. However I get plenty of shitty matches. I have a quit playing games, because of connection issue's. When for example Gears 3 introduced dedi's in the Beta. It was like rainbows sunshine and happiness, till they went down(in the beta).

How Do you Know that ps4 Games wont offer dedicated Servers?

Killzone:Shadow Fall doesn't.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Tell that to Gears fans.





Not everyone it seems.

The struggle!

I 2 piece him.. wait?? What the hell?


Im dead!

 

[Naminator]

Well that's not true. Not all games are using the Xbox Cloud so...there has to be done kind of catch.

How do we know that? I don't think I've seen devs say that they are sticking with P2P other than Killzone devs.

But besides that, it's pretty clear that they are saying that the option is there for devs to use, and it's free apparently.

I'd personally hope that there would be some mandate to use dedicated servers for games with online components, but that would just generate bad PR of the evil and oppressive MS forcing devs to use dedicated servers, and I doubt MS would like to spend money to generate that bad PR.

 

[Marleyman]

Good news for everyone.

Not even close.

 

[Nafai1123]

Titanfall is coming out to PC too...

But they weren't talking about PC when they said they were getting discounted dedi's through Azure. They were specifically talking about XB1. If this is true, it's probably a new development.

Not even close.

Care to elaborate? If this is true, it will benefit XB1 users and force Sony to compete. Competition is bad now?

 

[DopeyFish]

What for? the Devs can run their PS4 servers off of Azure...

Not forever and not for free.

This is inherent to the platform and a significant investment that is not matched easily.

 

[BakedSardine]

That seems like the case to me but you have remember, devs won't be getting free servers from Microsoft for the ps4 versions.

Right, this I understand. I'm just thinking that if MS is already giving them free servers, then their costs to have dedicated servers is cut in half, and they would only have to host dedicated servers for the PS4.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

Because its free for the devs and won't effect you at all?

What? Smoother multiplayer game play, no host advantage, no more having to mess with my NAT settings and so on doesn't "effect" me? Really friend?

 

[Guymelef]

What for? the Devs can run their PS4 servers off of Azure...

Yesterday: MS: You can connect your PS4 to HDMI in port.
Today: MS: You can host your PS4 servers on our network.

 

[Tripp Daily]

I'm sure there's a limitation somewhere, even if only in the lifespan of the product's servers. If not, this would be wonderful - one of the worst things is having a game's master server shut down and broken forever.

Servers shutting down is addressed in the article.

Also, the MS employee states very clearly that there are limitations to how much the devs can use in order to keep costs down. He doesn't hide from that. The good thing is that it is scalable according to the game and I would guess the popularity.

 

[Wereroku]

Omg. The double standard on here is getting ridiculous.

Author writes something positive: "Well, MS didn't say that so it's not true!!!"

MS spokesman says same thing: "Yeah right, that's an MS guy! PR! Can't trust what they say!!"

Can't lose, can you?

Well I was wrong albert confirmed free servers.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Tell that to Gears fans.

Not everyone it seems.

What happened? I never had a bad experience online with any Gears game.

well i didnt have a good time with gears 2 and the huge host advantages aswell as the constant lag spikes on mw2 or halo when playing with the wrong people.

playing battlefield 3 or gears 3 really shows how much dedis improve games. or at least help them.

Can't disagree on BF3 but Gears never gave me issues but I suppose it's all dependent on connection.

Good for you, but I have 100/100 connection with low ping. However I get plenty of shitty matches. I have a quit playing games, because of connection issue's.

I have the same issue across every platform. If the game is not suitable to play then I find another active game and join that.

 

[LilZippa]

The way it reads is that Microsoft will be giving the tools to do these things for free, not that they servers will be free. This reduces overhead for the devs and gets them using Microsoft cloud services which recoup them money.

I could be wrong, but that would be extremely expensive for Microsoft to not make anything back on their server side.

 

[USC-fan]

Still holding on to the free dedicated server idea lol. Why would the titanfall devs being paying for it if it were free?

MS has been saying free compute from the beginning but not once have the words "free" "dedicated" and "servers" ever been strung together.

I mean if it is true it should a simple enough thing to clarify.

Well the big problem that xbox compute is "dedicated servers" but when people say dedicated server they alway take it to mean server dedicated for hosting multiplayer. These are dedicated servers for compute which ms has made free to devs which Is a good thing.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

We know that some developers have been given free server estate, but I highly doubt that "devs" in general are.

Probably just select AAA-titles, who can already afford servers.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

We know that some developers have been given free server estate, but I highly doubt that "devs" in general are.

Probably just select AAA-titles, who can already afford servers.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Tell that to Gears fans.

Not everyone it seems.

What happened? I never had a bad experience online with any Gears game.

well i didnt have a good time with gears 2 and the huge host advantages aswell as the constant lag spikes on mw2 or halo when playing with the wrong people.

playing battlefield 3 or gears 3 really shows how much dedis improve games. or at least help them.

Can't disagree on BF3 but Gears never gave me issues but I suppose it's all dependent on connection.

Good for you, but I have 100/100 connection with low ping. However I get plenty of shitty matches. I have a quit playing games, because of connection issue's.

I have the same issue across every platform. If the game is not suitable to play then I find another active game and join that.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

We know that some developers have been given free server estate, but I highly doubt that "devs" in general are.

Probably just select AAA-titles, who can already afford servers.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Tell that to Gears fans.

Not everyone it seems.

What happened? I never had a bad experience online with any Gears game.

well i didnt have a good time with gears 2 and the huge host advantages aswell as the constant lag spikes on mw2 or halo when playing with the wrong people.

playing battlefield 3 or gears 3 really shows how much dedis improve games. or at least help them.

Can't disagree on BF3 but Gears never gave me issues but I suppose it's all dependent on connection.

Good for you, but I have 100/100 connection with low ping. However I get plenty of shitty matches. I have a quit playing games, because of connection issue's.

I have the same issue across every platform. If the game is not suitable to play then I find another active game and join that.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Tell that to Gears fans.

Not everyone it seems.

What happened? I never had a bad experience online with any Gears game.

well i didnt have a good time with gears 2 and the huge host advantages aswell as the constant lag spikes on mw2 or halo when playing with the wrong people.

playing battlefield 3 or gears 3 really shows how much dedis improve games. or at least help them.

Can't disagree on BF3 but Gears never gave me issues but I suppose it's all dependent on connection.

Good for you, but I have 100/100 connection with low ping. However I get plenty of shitty matches. I have a quit playing games, because of connection issue's.

I have the same issue across every platform. If the game is not suitable to play then I find another active game and join that.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Tell that to Gears fans.

Not everyone it seems.

What happened? I never had a bad experience online with any Gears game.

well i didnt have a good time with gears 2 and the huge host advantages aswell as the constant lag spikes on mw2 or halo when playing with the wrong people.

playing battlefield 3 or gears 3 really shows how much dedis improve games. or at least help them.

Can't disagree on BF3 but Gears never gave me issues but I suppose it's all dependent on connection.

Good for you, but I have 100/100 connection with low ping. However I get plenty of shitty matches. I have a quit playing games, because of connection issue's.

I have the same issue across every platform. If the game is not suitable to play then I find another active game and join that.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

LOL wha happan?!?!?

 

[DopeyFish]

holy spam guys