Opus Angelorum
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Sadly it's not surprising to see so many trying to find the negative here.
Gamesindustry: Xbox Live Compute (Cloud Servers) offered free to devs
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God damn, parity achieved, maybe surpassed even.
NoMoreTrolls
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Awesome news. About time I started getting my money's worth from Gold.
Good news is good. I don't get where the negativity is coming from. I mean, I understand the desire for clarification, but some of the vitriol from a few posters is crazy. While I won't take this at face value as a large amount of free servers for developers (due to Microsoft's recent messaging issues), ANY amount of free dedicated servers is a good thing.
Good news is good. I don't get where the negativity is coming from. I mean, I understand the desire for clarification, but some of the vitriol from a few posters is crazy. While I won't take this at face value as a large amount of free servers for developers (due to Microsoft's recent messaging issues), ANY amount of free dedicated servers is a good thing.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I mean how much salt is that man?
CitizenCope
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Why they gotta be ignoring 4th world. Jerks.
Impeccable
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Problem is "balancing" the legit good news about the dedicated servers to the complete shit of powering games to run better.
So on one hand, yay, and on the other it is the same tired and debunked story.
Muppet of a Man
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The multiplayer platform of choice will be dictated by those who play multiplayer games and the console they choose. Community trumps these sorts of features (although, they most certainly are nice). If major multiplayer titles all have dedicated serves on PS4, this likely won't be much of a bullet point from the consumer's perspective.
I think they will have some cloud features that will surprise us, however (i.e., things we weren't anticipating that might help set X1 apart).
Doesn't say you can play online without gold though so what's the news there exactly?
HawksWinStanley
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Honestly with some of the stuff I've been reading on GAF the past few months I can't really blame him. If picking the lesser console eliminates the chances of running into some of the people on here online then that might be worth the extra $100 alone. It's really getting pathetic.
SniperHunter
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isn't all of this bull shit?
Cool, please link to where Sony says that will be the case. Should be easy since you're so certain.
uncledonnie
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SEGAvangelist
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This is exactly the type of thing MS puts behind pay walls.
Metalmurphy
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Not the persistent worlds part. That's one thing the cloud will be good for.
Doubting != finding the negative.
There's no negative, if it's true.
great news for all I think.Opus Angelorum
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Perhaps, but I'd include dedicated servers alongside powering games to run better.
We've had the whole "we have dedicated servers" claim made on several occasions, on several occasions this has been PR misinformation for the servers that deal with leaderboards or simply matching players together into P2P games.
Infinity ward confirmed that they would have dedicated servers available for COD:G,
in reality this may mean that there are servers enough to deal with 30,000 people at any one time, but there may be 500,000 playing at any one point.
With the system that Microsoft are offering on Xbox One, every single player will have access to a dedicated server, regardless of concurrent users.
Thread worthy.
Until we see something using it, we don't know.
Yep because giving devs compute resources for free in the cloud has been done before in the past so we can state affirmatively that there will be no other benefits beyond dedicated servers for MP. Someone should tell devs to quit brainstorming ideas as their DOA per impeccable.
yankeehater
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That is amazing if true. I changed ISP's multiple times this gen, and every time I would have to go through the opening up the nats on all my 360's nonsense. I really hope they find away to eliminate that.
dragonelite
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Rendering part is debatable. AI can easily handle latency of a couple of seconds
Persistent world is a given.
iamshadowlark
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Nah. Unless you're talking online.
Can Crusher
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If this is true then every game on Xbox One will have dedicated servers, so if one pops out that doesn't have dedicated servers it will be another bold lie by MS.
Pretty huge selling point imo, at least if the heavy hitters like Battlefield and COD have servers on Xbox One and no servers on PS4. Otherwise then this won't even matter if developers put dedicated servers on PS4 too.
Waiting to see what happens.
Pretty huge selling point imo, at least if the heavy hitters like Battlefield and COD have servers on Xbox One and no servers on PS4. Otherwise then this won't even matter if developers put dedicated servers on PS4 too.
Waiting to see what happens.
Garrett 2U
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Haha, check out their source.
"Via NeoGAF" http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=697414
Yep, online still requires Gold. But I guess that is how they afford free cloud servers for all games
Pretty damn exciting man
GarthVaderUK
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Isn't one of the benefits of their cloud system that the servers can be used on demand by any game rather than having specific servers for specific games? So you'd still be able to play unpopular multiplayer games without worrying about servers being shut down...
R3TRO
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lol, well damn!
While I disagree with a lot of things MS have done with their platform, this sounds like a net positive, if these isn't some weird string attached (doesn't sound like there is?).
That being said, it will only incite hyperbole and "the infinite power of the cloud" type of misterxmedia-like buzz from people right now, because we haven't seen any meaningful use of this in action.
MS, please stop telling us why your product is awesome, and just show it. Maybe then some people would be more inclined to buy it.
That being said, it will only incite hyperbole and "the infinite power of the cloud" type of misterxmedia-like buzz from people right now, because we haven't seen any meaningful use of this in action.
MS, please stop telling us why your product is awesome, and just show it. Maybe then some people would be more inclined to buy it.
GoofsterStud
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How many?
How long of time frame?
Is it free for one year? Is it free indefinitely so the server will stay on?
Either way it's a step in the right direction.
Opus Angelorum
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Correct, the number of resources (servers) required is equal to the demand.
Would that be the first Free to Play game that doesn't require any kind of sub to access on Xbox?
bleachrude
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I'm not sure this is a "spin"
Since the beginning, MS has always said that at the LEAST developers were getting a deal on the servers but nobody knew just how much of a deal it was...this is simply a clarification of it.
Since when did Sony have dedicated servers for 1st party games? Killzone didnt and neither does uncharted.
The other question is what CAN a developer do with the knowledge that they can have 3 times the computing power on a server plus the xobox itself. Frankly, I seriously doubt anyone on Neogaf has the slightest clue what this actually means...
It'll be a couple of years before we actually SEE this utilized IMO.
Since the beginning, MS has always said that at the LEAST developers were getting a deal on the servers but nobody knew just how much of a deal it was...this is simply a clarification of it.
Since when did Sony have dedicated servers for 1st party games? Killzone didnt and neither does uncharted.
The other question is what CAN a developer do with the knowledge that they can have 3 times the computing power on a server plus the xobox itself. Frankly, I seriously doubt anyone on Neogaf has the slightest clue what this actually means...
It'll be a couple of years before we actually SEE this utilized IMO.
HawksWinStanley
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I know, right? It's sickening that I'm almost getting to that point. Even GameFAQs is saying "wow" at some of the stuff you can find on here.
The Azure platform doesn't act like a typical hardware server though. It's all virtualized and the system spins more servers up on the fly depending on load.
SEGAvangelist
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Not every game. I think fighting games work better without them, right?
RiccochetJ
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I honestly thought so too.
Impeccable
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They should always contact me in advance to clear their ideas, true.
Muppet of a Man
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Pretty decent synopsis. Although, I'm not sure about the AI part (at least streaming in realtime anyway).
Haha, check out their source.
"Via NeoGAF" http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=697414
Yep, online still requires Gold. But I guess that is how they afford SOME free cloud servers for all games
Pretty damn exciting man
FTFY ;-)
But seriously this is good news and good business, but keep your expectations in check.
If I was being really cynical I'd point out they're aiming for a always online system
They have been late on all the news today
Opus Angelorum
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It's a good news story.
Killzone SF will have dedicated servers, and I'm fairly certain some other first party Sony games used dedicated servers, but I might be wrong.
Edit: Apparently KZSF won't have dedicated servers but some weird arcane system that's not entirely p2p, or something? My bad.