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US Federal Government Shutdown | Shutdown Shutdown, Debt Ceiling Raised

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No doubt they dont care about the people, but they do care about their own image.

Their image would be fucked to the point where republicans would be a dead party if this happened. They know this so a deal will happen.

They are crazy, but they are not stupid to this fact. Expect a last minute deal.

They had a confederate flag waving in front of the White House in "protest" of the shut down just the other day...
They don't give two shits about their image.
 
C'mon, Boner, just put the Senate bill up so people can get back to watching Dancing with the Stars and stop worrying about feeding themselves in the coming winter/warding off roving packs of bandits.
 
C'mon, Boner, just put the Senate bill up so people can get back to watching Dancing with the Stars and stop worrying about feeding themselves in the coming winter/warding off roving packs of bandits.

I'm totally becoming a bandit. Seems like a nice life.
No rules. All you can eat. Cool outfits.
 
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next level shit
 
Is there any hope of avoiding a default?

I continue to assert there's no chance Boner actually has the balls to go into default to prove an illusory point about Obama and/or Health Care.

It actually makes insane troll logic sense - the only point in doing this is a symbolic point, there's no purpose in dragging it out to the point at which there are actual long-term consequences, but there's also no point in ending when there aren't.
 
Moderate Republicans really need to figure out a way to reclaim their party instead of continuing to let the crazy fringe drag the country into the gutter.
 
They have those for international trade, however they have conducted stress tests since 2010 to test the ability of domestic demand (and phase out exports to the US), they have started trading with BRICS directly (without the need for dollars), they have set up a swap line directly with Europe (not needing dollars to trade with them)... and they have been blatantly pushing for a different world reserve currency.

We are probably one major global crisis away from that happening.

You aren't saying anything of substance, just making conclusory statements the implications of which aren't even clear. I want you to explain the implications of China selling its US Treasuries in operational terms. So:

(1) China sells all of the US Treasuries it possesses.
(2) ???

What happens next as a consequence of that?

If you want to backtrack and start somewhere else, please feel free.
 
Country defaults. Country goes into recession. Tea Party: "See! Obamacare would tank the economy! We told you!"

I have a bad feeling about this.
 
Country defaults. Country goes into recession. Tea Party: "See! Obamacare would tank the economy! We told you!"

I have a bad feeling about this.


Actually their Plan A is to impeach Obama over whatever action he takes.



Think of who is running this charge. People waving confederate flags, against a black president. They literally cannot take having a black person be in charge of the country but not having any scandals(in their terms of scandals, not the liberal scandals of spying on us citizens, drones, or anything of rational thought).


Their end game is impeaching President Obama.
 
I continue to assert there's no chance Boner actually has the balls to go into default to prove an illusory point about Obama and/or Health Care.

It actually makes insane troll logic sense - the only point in doing this is a symbolic point, there's no purpose in dragging it out to the point at which there are actual long-term consequences, but there's also no point in ending when there aren't.

The only long term consequences Boehner cares about is his job security. And believe it or not his job as speaker is probably more secure if we go into default than if he folds and allows the senate bill on the floor for a vote.
 
If the House really does nothing tonight, and the Senate isn't allowed to fast-track their bill by Cruz, then we've pretty much run out of time to finish anything by Thursday. Not that the world will end Thursday, but we will enter an unprecedented time of uncertainty. Hang on.
 
Moderate Republicans really need to figure out a way to reclaim their party instead of continuing to let the crazy fringe drag the country into the gutter.

There is no moderate republicans left. It's either establishment republicans or tea partiers.

And no, there's no way to remove the crazy tea partiers because of this little tidbit:

New Republic's Nate Cohn said:
According to a July Pew Research survey, Tea Party Republicans make up nearly half (49 percent) of the Republican primary electorate and fully 37 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaners.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115189/gop-cant-survive-without-tea-party
 
The only long term consequences Boehner cares about is his job security. And believe it or not his job as speaker is probably more secure if we go into default than if he folds and allows the senate bill on the floor for a vote.

I disagree. I find it highly unlikely Boehner is literally a supervillain.
 
Country defaults. Country goes into recession. Tea Party: "See! Obamacare would tank the economy! We told you!"

I have a bad feeling about this.

Not even America is stupid enough to fall for that.

Republicans are going to lose on this issue regardless of how they try and spin it. Everyone knows that this is their mess.

What's funny is that...even if they did push that message, and even if people were stupid enough to believe it....it still wouldn't bring them any closer to toppling ACA.

The only long term consequences Boehner cares about is his job security. And believe it or not his job as speaker is probably more secure if we go into default than if he folds and allows the senate bill on the floor for a vote.

It all just comes down to greed. Fitting.
 
Yeah. Supervillains usually have motivation.
Boehner is just a fuckwad.

Boehner is a giant asshole, sure, but I also don't think he's actually an insane supervillain. That's the left-wing equivalent of "Obama is a Kenyan Muslim."

The GOP already absorbed the PR hit from doing this in the first place; there isn't any purpose in ending it before they actually have to do it.
 
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