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[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

http://www.kutv.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_7578.shtml

Idiot who toppled rock in Goblin Valley previously filed law suit claiming debilitating injuries.

:lol Delicious, dude is an asshole. I hope he has to pay everything back he stole from those people and is prosecuted for him damaging the park.


And is he really still saying he did it to save people's lives? Why do people not realize that if your rationalization is that stupid, that you come off even worse than if you just kept your damn mouth shut.

 

[Branduil]

‘Goblin’ topplers say they are receiving death threats

It is pretty amazing that a boulder the size of a car could be pushed over by one man with debilitating injuries.

I’ve got people all over the world telling me they are going to kill me because I made the decision that lives are more important than this rock staying here a few more hours,"

He's not helping his case by continuing to claim he did this for the chiiiiilllldreeeeen.

 

[Dali]

Eventually it'll be gone and something else will take its place I think we hold lots of this kind of stuff a little too sacred.


They just wanted to be part of nature.

The world changes enough by our own hands with corporations pillaging and people sprawling. So yeah protecting the areas we have set aside to be ummm..protected is a big deal.

 

[meppi]

Shows just again that there is a defence force for every kind of retard that walks this planet. SMH.

Hope that frivolous lawsuit bites him in the ass real good if nothing else.

 

[Quidam]

I can't believe there are people in here genuinely suggesting that three people go to prison because they pushed over a large rock. It beggars belief.

 

[Transhuman]

I can't believe there are people in here genuinely suggesting that three people go to prison because they pushed over a large rock. It beggars belief.

I think they'd like it in prison. They can break rocks all day long.

 

[Mahadev]

I can't believe there are people in here genuinely suggesting that three people go to prison because they pushed over a large rock. It beggars belief.

They should be fined for being dumbasses.

 

[FyreWulff]

I can't believe there are people in here genuinely suggesting that three people go to prison because they pushed over a large rock. It beggars belief.

they can get their hands all over as many rocks as they want in prison

 

[Chumly]

I can't believe there are people in here genuinely suggesting that three people go to prison because they pushed over a large rock. It beggars belief.

You can't be serious. Why do other vandals go to prison?

 

[Aylinato]

I can't believe there are people in here genuinely suggesting that three people go to prison because they pushed over a large rock. It beggars belief.

Destroying part of a world landmark which belongs to no one simply because you deemed it "unsafe" is way dumber than wantin them to go to prison for defacing something that's 200,000,000 years old. It wasn't going to fall anytime soon, they made an incorrect judgement and should be punished for their actions accordingly.

Could you imagine if we just started tearing down all historic landmarks/buildings because someone thinks part of it will fall down? We would have no landmarks left.

Also the park doesn't belong to them anyway as it belongs to everyone, they even have a motto of "leave no trace behind" which completely altering the state of the landmark goes against their own basic tenet.

Should we allow people to destroy the great pyramids? The Great Wall of china? The Grand Canyon? I could go on and on of historic landmarks that "could fall and hurt someone" yet we don't do shit because it's likelihood of happening is almost 0.

 

[Cyan]

I'm glad to read about the lawsuit, now I feel totally justified in thinking the guy's a massive dipshit.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I can't believe there are people in here genuinely suggesting that three people go to prison because they pushed over a large rock. It beggars belief.

Aylinato covered it well, but simply put, yes, destroying protected ancient landmarks in national parks should be severely punished.

 

[IceCold]

Aylinato covered it well, but simply put, yes, destroying protected ancient landmarks in national parks should be severely punished.

Heavy Fine + ban them from national parks. There's no need to put someone in jail for this.

 

[Joe]

These guys do not deserve to be locked in cages like animals, you people are nuts.

 

[Ciastek3214]

These guys do not deserve to be locked in cages like animals, you people are nuts.

People got jail time for less.

 

[Popparoks]

proof that there are always a couple morons waiting to fuck up for everybody else

 

[Count Dookkake]

Has the BSA commented?

I wonder how these guys compare to gay scout leaders.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Heavy Fine + ban them from national parks. There's no need to put someone in jail for this.

I'm neutral on the jail time. A steep fine and park ban would be sufficient, I think. I'm curious what the felony charge they might get hit with carries.

Has the BSA commented?

I wonder how these guys compare to gay scout leaders.

Dipshittery knows no boundaries.

 

[empty vessel]

I think natural (and man-made) wonders deserve protection so that humans can continue to enjoy them. In this regard, even though it is just a rock, it is not just a rock at all. It seems obvious to me that there should be consequences for the act. But those consequences should not be out of proportion to the act. I think the man will learn his lesson that he does not get to unilaterally decide which wonders of the world are deserving of protection and which are not with some community service or a fine.

 

[Trojita]

Boy Scout Leader handles rock hard erections.

Gays still can't be Boy Scout Leaders.

 

[Partial Gamification]

Since a video showing two men toppling an iconic rock formation in Goblin Valley State Park went viral, a barrage of hate mail and death threats has rained down on the Utah Boy Scout leaders.

Hundreds of online messages promising violent revenge, sent through email and social media, have come from around the world, said Highland resident Dave Hall.

"I've gotten death threats from people in Germany and Spain and New Zealand. … I mean, hundreds and hundreds of hateful messages," said Hall, who is now worried the fallout could affect his family.
[...]
The Emery County Attorney's Office confirmed Friday that it has been contacted by state park representatives and will review the case once an investigation is complete. So far, no charges have been filed.

Hall and Taylor were leading a group of Scouts through Goblin Valley State Park at the time was video taken. A spokesman for the Boy Scouts of America called the act by two leaders disappointing and reprehensible.

"We teach our 2.6 million youth members and 1.1 million adult members … the principles of 'leave no trace.' These principles stress a commitment to maintaining the integrity and character of the outdoors and all living things," according to a statement from the BSA. "The isolated actions of these individuals are absolutely counter to our beliefs and what we teach."

The BSA is reviewing the matter and "will take appropriate action," the statement concludes.
[...]
source

I don't like the idea of jail time. The prison system isn't the solution, and neither is the violent verbal attacks. The justice system, even with all its faults, will likely throw the book at them given the coverage. Nothing can make it right, and a [virtual] lynch mob makes it worse. Hopefully the rest of the hoodoos will be more explicitly protected.

 

[abuC]

I don't get the outrage, they don't deserve jail time for that.

 

[The Awesomest]

Assholes and smh at the grammar in the first part of the sentence.

The grammar is fine. "Trio" is singular. "The trio was", not "the trio were".

 

[Winterfang]

It's a rock =/.

 

[Cyan]

Well, yeah. Now it's just a rock.

 

[GhaleonEB]

It's a rock =/.

Might as well knock'em all down, right?

 

[abuC]

Might as well knock'em all down, right?

A bunch of rocks.

 

[Lucky Forward]

Has the BSA commented?

I wonder how these guys compare to gay scout leaders.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57016443-78/goblin-park-state-rock.html.csp

Among those saying they made the wrong decision is the national headquarters of the Boy Scouts.

"We are shocked and disappointed by this reprehensible behavior. ... The isolated actions of these individuals are absolutely counter to our beliefs and what we teach," said Deron Smith, national spokesman for the Boy Scouts. "For more than a century, the Boy Scouts of America has been a leader in conservation — from stewardship to sustainability. We teach … the principles of ‘Leave No Trace.’ "

In a written statement he added, "We are reviewing this matter and will take appropriate action." He did not say what sanctions are possible.

The local Boy Scout council — somewhat ironically named the Utah National Parks Council — declined to comment beyond what national headquarters said.

Hall said "we talked to the Boy Scout office, and they are still in the gathering information phase. We’re open to anything. We realize we made a mistake, and we’re looking to use as much of this as a teaching experience, not only for ourselves but also other scoutmasters and for the Boy Scouts themselves."

 

[Trakdown]

A bunch of rocks.

And the Great Wall is just a bunch of bricks.

 

[abuC]

And the Great Wall is just a bunch of bricks.

LOL, yeah one is man made and the other isn't, great comparison.

 

[Necromanti]

LOL, yeah one is man made and the other isn't, great comparison.

Do you implicitly support the destruction, despoiling, or vandalism of natural landmarks, such as a UNESCO World Heritage site, believing there should be no consequences for doing so? (And I am not necessarily talking about jail time.) It was also a site used by Native Americans, I believe, with evidence of rock art and pictograms.

 

[Shamrock7r]

Heavy Fine + ban them from national parks. There's no need to put someone in jail for this.

Why not

 

[abuC]

Do you implicitly support the destruction, despoiling, or vandalism of natural landmarks such as a UNESCO World Heritage site, believing there should be no consequences for doing so? (And I am not necessarily talking about jail time.)

A fine and nothing more.

The fact they are receiving death threats over it is insane.

 

[M-PG71C]

Wow, three fat bodies that look like they could have came out of my side of Tennesee trailer park trash destroy nature in a matter of seconds. I'm honestly disgusted.

There is no chance in fucking hell that would've fallen on some damn kid. :/ They should be permanently banned from national parks, removed of their position as Boy Scout leaders, and be expected to pay a significant fine.

 

[legacyzero]

But, it coulda killed some kid! /s

 

[Count Dookkake]

Dude looks like he could fall over any minute.


Should probably be kept from kids, just to be safe.

 

[cajunator]

1. As a former Boy Scout SMDH at these guys

2. Should be a fine+ban from national parks not prison time

3. They SHOULD be thrown in jail if the accident thing is true for fraud

4. It is "just a rock" but the rock plus the soil/erosion/stuff that caused it has a greater meaning to it. Its natural beauty that should be preserved for others.

5. Changing one formation and not punishing it would open the door to many others doing the same.

6. This is not "destroying nature" rather it is changing the form of it. The rock was moved to a different resting spot. Its still shameful.

 

[Goreomedy]

LOL, yeah one is man made and the other isn't, great comparison.

It was a fine comparison, pointing out how individual elements combined make the celebrated landmark/formation. Which you don't seem to get?

States with economic health linked to natural beauty tourism, can't pull punches when their landmarks are vandalized. Especially when the vandals brag about it in social media, providing damning evidence of said felony.

As for the death threats... why are you surprised there are idiots on the internet?

 

[Milchmann]

This rock looks loose, someone should remove it.

 

[Sendou]

I bet that dude would have a field day with this.

 

[KarmaCow]

Removed from the legality of defiling a national park I don't really have a problem with what they did even if I wouldn't do it. To be blunt, it's a rock and even if I thought it looked pretty (and if that feeling actually meant something), it's hardly unique.

 

[Sendou]

Removed from the legality of defiling a national park I don't really have a problem with what they did even if I wouldn't do it. To be blunt, it's a rock and even if I thought it looked pretty (and if that feeling actually meant something), it's hardly unique.

It would become unique in no time if idiots like these were allowed to go loose destroying those.

 

[huxley00]

Jesus, you guys need to cut these people some slack. Talk about witch hunting. It was a stupid mistake, a fine would be suitable. I wish people got this outraged about things that...you know...actually matter.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

Just fine him and ban him from the park if need be, no jail time.

Though this story about his "debilitating" crash a few years back is kinda weird. I guess he recovered, heh.

 

[Kinyou]

This rock looks loose, someone should remove it.

I gotta do it, man

 

[KarmaCow]

It would become unique in no time if idiots like these were allowed to go loose destroying those.

Well I meant for that sentiment to be part of the legal reasons for not allowing it.

Basically, I was trying to say that the fact that it's 200 million years old in and of itself doesn't really mean much to me.

 

[Kinyou]

Well I meant for that sentiment to be part of the legal reasons for not allowing it.

Basically, I was trying to say that the fact that it's 200 million years old in and of itself doesn't really mean much to me.

It probably does to some geology professors

 

[DoomGyver]

They just pushed nature along a little bit.

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

This was way worse imo.

Whenever I see this my blood gets boiling, I almost become racist towards dumb, Chinese kids, but then I pull myself back together!

 

[Effnine]

On no, not rocks!

Rocks that will be here before and after you're long gone ... I hope you were being sarcastic