fastford58
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I feel like we haven't seen the most impressive parts of Shadowfall yet. Ryse looks good, but still pretty uneven.
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I feel like we haven't seen the most impressive parts of Shadowfall yet. Ryse looks good, but still pretty uneven.
viveks86
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Infamous 2 gets real fun after the initial "getting acclimated" period. If you have it (or acces to it on Plus), I'd recommend checking it out next time there's a lull in games you're actively playing.
I wasn't sure where to put it so il post it here but according to Scott Lowe all the video they are releasing on IGN for COD Ghosts is coming from the PS4. Now it's probably not a big deal but why would they not being showing the Xbox version especially for COD
https://twitter.com/ScottLowe/status/392389040432885760
https://twitter.com/ScottLowe/status/392389040432885760
Wow, I think this is the first time Activision has ever demoed COD on a Playstation platform. Is there a thread for this?
I didn't want to make one because im not sure if its worth the chaos lol. But it is very interesting.
Woah, that's crazy.
Ricerocket
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There is a seemingly big trend in all multiplatform games being shown on PS4 over X1. This one being even weirder as CoD and MS has been partnered for advertising.
Might of been a good choice. I just watched the video and they show no gameplay which is disappointing.
TheRealTalker
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have we seen it running on the Xbox One?
the other events where on PC... but I think they ran it on it
Edit: but it is a IGN specific video... what would be more shocking is if Activision published there own official footage using the PS4... instead they are using PC
SwiftDeath
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That's odd. COD is in no way going to push graphics that hard
I have trouble believing Activision of all people are having trouble getting the COD XB1 build up to snuff
ESram can't be that much of a PITA can it? Or is it just because it looks nicer on PS4?
If you look down the page it seems like more is coming.
Muppet of a Man
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Why could this be? I know! It's what 3rd party devs have been hinting at repeatedly for months. PS4 is the more powerful platform. PS4 will have the better looking multiplatform games the overwhelming majority of the time.
Why is there still a shred of doubt?
Ironically, it literally looks like the exact same game as part 2, in terms of pure gameplay - based on what we've seen so far.
* Same hover move
* Same projectile shooting style
* Shooting up to the roof in the vents is identical to shooting up to the roof on the poles
* Melee weapon is chain now instead of metal bat
* Aerial slam down move is the same as past games, just looks way nicer because of camera angles
What the game does MASSIVELY improve on though, is the main character, the voice acting, the graphics, and the dialogue. The main character looks so much better than Cole, and his friend looks soooooooooooooo much better than fucking Zeke. The dialogue even in the previews looks really well written and genuinely enjoyable.
I'm sold on the game. I just really hope they actually have something new in store for us in terms of gameplay. So far, we haven't seen anything new.
There is no doubt. Only denial.
Wildstar75
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Graphically Ryse and Killzone are both quite breathtaking the first time you see them live. Youtube videos do next gen games a big disservice. But have you actually seen both Dead Rising 3 and Infamous SS being played live on a beautiful big 1080 display right in front of you? I have. And it's not even close. Infamous SS blows it away. That said neither version is out yet, and the end product is all that matters. But from what my eyes have seen it is hard to understand how any non-fanboy could favor DR3 over Infamous.
Naughty dog would just make every 3rd party developer look like fools
but I dont think that would happen thanks to pc games
Oh dear. Add this to the 1080p ps4 list.
These numbers hurt my head (T_T) so I wanted to have your input guys.
The PS4 is estimated to be around 40-56% more powerful (depending on who you ask). Its easier to develop for due to, power, more mature tools and a more straightforward architecture. Its able to push out more computations, better physics, particle effects, draw distance, resolution, and more due to the added GPGPU, ROPS, ACES, hUMA, etc. the Xbox One lacks.
My question is in regards to third party games. Due to the constraints of the XB1, will the scope of games be minimized due to the lack of power or can I expect the differences to just be better resolution, frame rate, and more visual flair for the PS4? Right out the gate, certain PS4 games are already aiming for things like soft body physics (The Order), and insane use of particles (Infamous: SS) that Microsoft just havent addressed or just havent shown.
Everyone keeps bringing up esram and how fast it is but at only 32mb it seems marginal to me so I wanted to understand why the size limitation is a hindrance in a real world scenario. Will there be more loading screens or time? Will there be smaller scale levels?
I know I wrote a whole heck of a lot but now being able to be part of the conversation I thought you guys could pitch in and help me understand this. If Im wrong with any information please feel free to correct me!
*P.S Also, does anyone know if Capcom can use the Panta Rhei Engine for Xbox One games? I read on Wikipedia that Cap was replacing their MT Framework engine with it and was curious if anyone knew any more about it than I.
The PS4 is estimated to be around 40-56% more powerful (depending on who you ask). Its easier to develop for due to, power, more mature tools and a more straightforward architecture. Its able to push out more computations, better physics, particle effects, draw distance, resolution, and more due to the added GPGPU, ROPS, ACES, hUMA, etc. the Xbox One lacks.
My question is in regards to third party games. Due to the constraints of the XB1, will the scope of games be minimized due to the lack of power or can I expect the differences to just be better resolution, frame rate, and more visual flair for the PS4? Right out the gate, certain PS4 games are already aiming for things like soft body physics (The Order), and insane use of particles (Infamous: SS) that Microsoft just havent addressed or just havent shown.
Everyone keeps bringing up esram and how fast it is but at only 32mb it seems marginal to me so I wanted to understand why the size limitation is a hindrance in a real world scenario. Will there be more loading screens or time? Will there be smaller scale levels?
I know I wrote a whole heck of a lot but now being able to be part of the conversation I thought you guys could pitch in and help me understand this. If Im wrong with any information please feel free to correct me!
*P.S Also, does anyone know if Capcom can use the Panta Rhei Engine for Xbox One games? I read on Wikipedia that Cap was replacing their MT Framework engine with it and was curious if anyone knew any more about it than I.
shinra-bansho
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Infamous: Second Son appeals more at least partly because Cole was fugly and a douche, while Delsin may be a douche at least he's pretty.
Ghosts being demoed on PS4 does raise eyebrows. Acti have a co-marketing and content deal with Microsoft.
Ghosts being demoed on PS4 does raise eyebrows. Acti have a co-marketing and content deal with Microsoft.
And they previewed every CoD game this generation on Xbox 360.
@Pbae: The proof will be in the pudding. It remains to be seen, how much of a difference there really is.
The difference might win a ps4 a few rounds on digital foundry, but I doubt, it will be enough to sway new xb1 gamers, from feeling pleased about their purchase.
However, hardware differences suggest the ps4 will pull away in years 2,3, and four.
The difference might win a ps4 a few rounds on digital foundry, but I doubt, it will be enough to sway new xb1 gamers, from feeling pleased about their purchase.
However, hardware differences suggest the ps4 will pull away in years 2,3, and four.
It could be that the PS4 version isn't doing great in the preorders
The real problem is if the sales on xbo are significantly lower and devs don't feel it is worth their time optimizing. This could lead to very sub par versions considering lower overall power and need for optimizing.
This is what we saw early in the ps3 and there was a gpu difference butnot as significant
digoutyoursoul
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Talking about the overall experience not just visuals. I think Infamous looks better in the visuals but from playing both series' Dead Rising is a lot more enjoyable in the gameplay department in my opinion.
Project Alice
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It very well could be that the PS4 version is further along as there would be less optimizations to be made with no ESRAM and from what we've heard, more mature drivers. They would also be doing this to rub it into EA's face that their game is 1080p.
Or maybe Activision thinks the PS4 will sell more boxes and there is less competition on the PS4 with the recent delay's hence more money to be made.
Or maybe Activision thinks the PS4 will sell more boxes and there is less competition on the PS4 with the recent delay's hence more money to be made.
SwiftDeath
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There is more competition on the PS4 as it actually has an exclusive FPS (killzone) for launch so they could be advertising to try and better compete
Games have to go gold this week I'm fairly certain hence why both watch dogs and driveclub were delayed within days of each other so final code is likely done on both versions
Project Alice
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That's another possibility as well, you're right.
Wait, so I am a fanboy if I think DR3 looks more fun? No offense, but that is a prettty fanboyish statement if I ever heard one. I just love games, man and we all have different opinions. I'll own both consoles before it's over and actually find the PS4 more attractive. I just find the launch titles on Xbone more appealing from a fun point of view. Again, it's all about the games for me, not what system they are on.
Sword Of Doom
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DR3 does look like a lot of fun. It's not right to criticize anybody for their opinion, however this all relates to the Edge article and the way it was written just sounds biased. There are alot of ways that article could have been written. It could have been written by just talking about the XB1 launch games and how they look interesting. The moment they are compared to PS4 games to me the article loses all credibility. Especially when nobody is credited with writing the article. Also, comparing Halo to Killzone when nobody has any idea when Halo is even gonna be released.
What happened to this thread?
This thread isn't about "fun" or "opinions", and nobody's calling you a fanboy.
Your business. Your money. Wrong thread.
As a side note, assuming everything you say is true, I recommend that you wait for reviews, because you're betting $500 that Crytek, Capcom Vancouver and Double Helix can make good games sight unseen, and their track record doesn't really inspire all that much confidence.
Please don't respond to the last part, as it's off topic and is just friendly advice.
This thread isn't about "fun" or "opinions", and nobody's calling you a fanboy.
Your business. Your money. Wrong thread.
As a side note, assuming everything you say is true, I recommend that you wait for reviews, because you're betting $500 that Crytek, Capcom Vancouver and Double Helix can make good games sight unseen, and their track record doesn't really inspire all that much confidence.
Please don't respond to the last part, as it's off topic and is just friendly advice.
Stripper13
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This has been my biggest issue with the launch lineup. None of those devs have a quality streak behind them. If you told me that Crytek were making a 3rd person 'cinematic' action game a year ago - I would have laughed and told you to save your money. If it weren't for the fact that it's looking good from a visual standpoint I'm not sure it would garner 10% of the attention it has received. I also feel the same way about Killzone, but the multiplayer for that is looking like a lot of fun so I may buy in post-reviews.
SwiftDeath
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There is also the new system launch hype goggles to deal with
I'm sure we're all under their influence. I am probably overlyhyped for killzone, just hope it delivers
shinra-bansho
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I don't really get how or why "fun" has suddenly become a quantifiable metric. Or the resurgence of "I'll take gameplay over graphics."
Are fun and technically powerful hardware supposed to be mutually exclusive? Is there no possible overlap in the gameplay/graphics Venn diagram?
Are fun and technically powerful hardware supposed to be mutually exclusive? Is there no possible overlap in the gameplay/graphics Venn diagram?
Sword Of Doom
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If both PS4 and XB1 versions of COD are 1080/60 and people are assuming the XB1 version looks worse, how would they look different? What are some things IW would have to sacrifice on the XB1 version?
It's cognitive dissonance from people who already have buyer's remorse over something they haven't even bought yet.
Glorified G
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It is a shiny new thing for a shiny new console man, let'em enjoy...
Here here...
That is deep.
I really didn't want to go down this path, but Guerrilla has a very strong recent track record. Killzone 2 and 3 have 91% and 84% metacritic ratings. Shadow Fall being good is actually a pretty safe bet.
Damn! Cold blooded!
shinra-bansho
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Perhaps.
With a hefty dose of confirmation bias to go with it, I imagine. As, further to the above, it always strikes me as odd when people talk about how they want every single exclusive game on one platform, but have no interest in any of the exclusive games on the other. This goes for people who have expressed purchase intent in both the PS4 and XB1.
I can completely see valuing the exclusive content on one platform more, but there's a variety of content announced on both, so having zero interest in one or the other (at least in terms of content, there are other reasons one may not choose said platforms) is odd.
Stripper13
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I don't necessarily disagree. My indifference to Killzone is due to the fact that as far as shooters go - I was always a Halo fan... and that I didn't really enjoy KZ2 or 3 (never finished either).
The fact that there's a good chance I won't get to play another Halo for the next few years (when XB1 drops to a reasonable price) is the only reason I've given KZ:SF a glance. The multiplayer looks fun, I'm not at all interested in the single player so far.
I was simply stating that 'I feel the same way about KZ' compared to Ryse on a personal level. Crytek definitely have a more questionable streak though - no doubt.