DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
ahhh, yeah. totally agree with that then.
I thought we had another one of those weird. "how will people know what the difference is to a series s and series x" again.
WTF is the difference between the next “Xbox Console” and “Xbox PC”?!
ahhh, yeah. totally agree with that then.
I thought we had another one of those weird. "how will people know what the difference is to a series s and series x" again.
Baemono
Member
But it is true that when the Series S launched (and was the only one available), I saw it in a store next to a white One S, at the same price, it was definitly confusing.
PendekarRajawali
Member
Loxus
Member
I would believe the Xbox BC is handled by the SoC "Mangnus", which the Xbox PC wouldn't use.
Xbox Console = Magnus + AT2 (Chiplet)
Xbox PC = Medusa (CPU) + AT2 (dGPU)
Core architecture: Morpheus → internal codename for the Zen 6 cores.
Desktop (client): Medusa → Ryzen 10000-series desktop CPUs.
Mobile (high-end APU): Medusa Point → up to ~22 hybrid cores with RDNA graphics.
Mobile (mainstream APU): Medusa BB (Medusa Baby) → up to ~10 hybrid cores.
Mobile (enthusiast/gaming CPU): Gator Range → high-performance mobile CPUs with strong NPUs.
Server (EPYC): Venice → up to 256 cores, aimed at datacenter and AI workloads.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
just a brand thing, instead of saying "on windows via the windows store or the xbox app on pc", you just say "xbox pc"; the xbox app was literally just called xboxpcapp.exe, so it's always been there.
It also makes it easier to sell "xbox branded" pcs.
It also makes it easier to sell "xbox branded" pcs.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
I wonder if MS will make GamePass Core mandatory on Xbox "console" for buying/playing games from Steam, Epic and other storefronts.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Otherwise they lose a lot of revenue.
And even further, could they mandate "Games Anywhere" or whatever that is called so if someone buys on Xbox store it's also on Windows Store.
Xbox PC will clearly be OEM PCs with Xbox sticker and perhaps the new "Game Mode" version front and center (still can drop to regular Windows interface of course).
That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Otherwise they lose a lot of revenue.
And even further, could they mandate "Games Anywhere" or whatever that is called so if someone buys on Xbox store it's also on Windows Store.
Xbox PC will clearly be OEM PCs with Xbox sticker and perhaps the new "Game Mode" version front and center (still can drop to regular Windows interface of course).
twilo99
Member
It depends on what kind of "Xbox" chips AMD puts out for PC builders
MikeM
Member
Exactly how I see it. Xbox and PC game access, PC scaling options, but console- level ease of use and reliability?
Massive W for me.
MisterXDTV
Member
They have no idea what they are doing and you are asking us?
Topher
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I think that could be an appealing option for many. Incorporating PC stores into a console doesn't really make much sense to me from a business standpoint, but that maybe enough to shake things up in the console space (which really needs shaking up). Elephant in the room, as always, is price.
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
I really value the insiders here and feel like we've been pretty well informed on everything coming up for a year and a half. But the only thing that hasn't made a ton of sense is the insistence on what is a console, and what is a PC. I'm not going to worry about it because I suspect it's mostly going to come down to semantics.
If you want to get a box that plays Xbox BC games, and has access to all the PC stores, you will be able to. If you're into Xbox currently it's going to be a massive W on every single level but the hardware price up front. You'll get what you have now, plus every other game in existence for the most part through GoG and Steam. EPIC free games. Gamepass access, all of it. Just pricy hardware.
I think every game for either the Xbox "console" or the Xbox PC store will just be a PC version, period. Again, semantics. No one is expecting these systems to sell a lot. No developers are going to go out of their way to make specialized versions for Xbox "console." Every game comes to PC now, and that's what we'll get. MS may have a quality control process for checking updates or whatever, but it will likely be on them.
As for the debate about Xbox BC stuff on PC, the AMD video is pretty clear. Unusually clear. Unprecedented BC, and coming to a range of devices. So if insiders are not seeing that now, I would expect that eventually we could see laptops, handhelds, and PCs that might incorporate a chip for BC. I guess we'll see. If not, get the "console" which is going to be a PC anyway.
If you want to get a box that plays Xbox BC games, and has access to all the PC stores, you will be able to. If you're into Xbox currently it's going to be a massive W on every single level but the hardware price up front. You'll get what you have now, plus every other game in existence for the most part through GoG and Steam. EPIC free games. Gamepass access, all of it. Just pricy hardware.
I think every game for either the Xbox "console" or the Xbox PC store will just be a PC version, period. Again, semantics. No one is expecting these systems to sell a lot. No developers are going to go out of their way to make specialized versions for Xbox "console." Every game comes to PC now, and that's what we'll get. MS may have a quality control process for checking updates or whatever, but it will likely be on them.
As for the debate about Xbox BC stuff on PC, the AMD video is pretty clear. Unusually clear. Unprecedented BC, and coming to a range of devices. So if insiders are not seeing that now, I would expect that eventually we could see laptops, handhelds, and PCs that might incorporate a chip for BC. I guess we'll see. If not, get the "console" which is going to be a PC anyway.
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MikeM
Member
I don't think everything releases on the Xbox PC App (could be wrong). Steam's library is massive, so its the easiest way to launch a new "console" with a massive library that also includes Sony's portfolio of games.
I'm wondering if they will do anything with their AI upscaler on the console. Either way, some games don't come to PC (NHL), so this could be my "do-it-all" box that is also kid friendly with the UI.
memoryman3
Member
We have this job listing that suggests Microsoft is working on comprehensive Xbox BC with Windows devices, using emulation.
jobs.careers.microsoft.com
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viveks86
Member
Also true. Just trying to give this the most charitable read until there is official clarification