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Rumor: Titanfall also 720p?

Is there a thread for people who don't give a shit what the native resolution of any game is so long as it plays smooth and is fun? Seems like that person gets shouted at.
 
I see a lot of posts that equate to "but it doesn't even look that good! How is this possible?" Now, full disclosure, I'm not super technically inclined. I have, however, Ben reading damn near every tech thread since February. So take this with a grain of salt, and hopefully someone like Skeff can back me up on this:

The issue with 1080p on the Xbox One is not competent reliant on the fidelity of individual assets in these games; it is likely more due to the frame buffer of 1080p Ganges exceeding the esRAM bandwidth. In essence, the resolution itself is the issue with games pushing tech like deferred lighting and more advanced shadow mapping, let alone anti aliasing solutions. It is my belief that these games are not maxing out the Xbox One's GPU at this stage, merely that the esRAM bandwidth is bottlenecking the system to the point where tons of graphical sacrifices must be made to attain a 1080p resolution. It could just be tales from my ass, mind you, but I think that Forza helps back this claim up, due to its aliasing and lack of dynamic lighting and other "next gen" graphical flair.

Feel free to call me out on my shit if there is something glaringly wrong with my post. I welcome level headed discussion.
 
Xbox One has Mattrick and Ballmer's prints all over it. It follows the recent trend of other MS consumer flops like their phones, tablets, and Windows 8. The phones/tablets are more expensive, for the same or less hardware, and a smaller software library vs Apple and Android. Win 8 seems like a desperate attempt to force desktop users to familiarize themselves with the poor on desktops Metro UI so they'd be more likely to buy Win phones/tablets.

Xbox One is similarly overpriced for less power, gimmick features (kinect/Metro) that most people aren't interested in, a smaller software library, and neglecting their core gamer market for the casual/TV audience.

It probably won't be as big a failure as their phones and tablets but it's not going to be pretty. Most surveys put consumer interest at a PS4 66% X1 33% split.
 
tournanext said:
Xbox One has Mattrick and Ballmer's prints all over it. It follows the recent trend of other MS consumer flops like their phones, tablets, and Windows 8. The phones/tablets are more expensive, for the same or less hardware, and a smaller software library vs Apple and Android. Win 8 seems like a desperate attempt to force desktop users to familiarize themselves with the poor on desktops Metro UI so they'd be more likely to buy Win phones/tablets.

Xbox One is similarly overpriced for less power, gimmick features (kinect/Metro) that most people aren't interested in, a smaller software library, and neglecting their core gamer market for the casual/TV audience.

It probably won't be as big a failure as their phones and tablets but it's not going to be pretty. Most surveys put consumer interest at a PS4 66% X1 33% split.
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You have been on fire in MS related threads in the past few days
 
TacticalFox88 said:
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Gaf jifs never cease to amaze me
 
AlanzTalon said:
Is there a thread for people who don't give a shit what the native resolution of any game is so long as it plays smooth and is fun? Seems like that person gets shouted at.
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There's probably a "have you seen Titanfall" thread somewhere.

But this here is a tech thread.
 
Ysiadmihi said:
A $500 console launching in 2013 that already supposedly has several 720p games. It's seriously unbelievable.

I know the PS4 isn't a power house either, but Microsoft has done a good job of making it look that way with the Xbox One.
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I know, right? I posted this in the other thread but it applies here as well:

I think it is totally reasonable for a lot of people to expect a 2014 next-gen console platform to output a native rez signal for the TV they've probably owned for 6 years. Like, that is not a bridge too far. The Xbox One 720p stuff is shocking, and I say that as one of the least picky proponents of full rez and 60 FPS and all that. I expected about half of the games last gen to be 1080p and they could never really hit that outside of 2d/specialty stuff. 1080p standard is kind of overdue.
 
f@luS said:
Seriously

wtf

i want 1080p for this gen.


i bought a wiiu just for Zelda and oh crap how crisp it is...make it so beautiful

i have 65" plasma and i play 2m20 from it....its night and day..... i wont say i wont buy a game because its just 720p, but damn, it has to be a minority..... most of them NEED to be 1080
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Buy PS4....Bolded SOLVED...or build a PC rig.
 
Yeah I Don't buy it. This would imply that the XB1 either has significantly higher AA, or it isnt any more powerful than the X360. Framerate difference may or may not be there depending on if the devs locked it. Sounds like FUD to me
 
tournanext said:
Xbox One has Mattrick and Ballmer's prints all over it. It follows the recent trend of other MS consumer flops like their phones, tablets, and Windows 8. The phones/tablets are more expensive, for the same or less hardware, and a smaller software library vs Apple and Android. Win 8 seems like a desperate attempt to force desktop users to familiarize themselves with the poor on desktops Metro UI so they'd be more likely to buy Win phones/tablets.

Xbox One is similarly overpriced for less power, gimmick features (kinect/Metro) that most people aren't interested in, a smaller software library, and neglecting their core gamer market for the casual/TV audience.

It probably won't be as big a failure as their phones and tablets but it's not going to be pretty. Most surveys put consumer interest at a PS4 66% X1 33% split.
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I'm with you on the other stuff, but i don't think anyone can make complaints about a smaller software library yet before the console is even released, and when Xbox will have more day one first party titles available. Sony does have quite of few indy's dropping, but you'd have to think that will start to even out assuming the "every Xbox is a dev kit" stuff actually works. Just too soon to make that call unless it becomes apparent that Microsoft is facing a Wii U situation.

What's interesting is how much attention Microsoft devoted to the media box vs dedicated games with stuff like the sound chip and HDMI passthrough. It's not just Kinect driving up the BoM relative to the GPU. It remains to be seen if consumers are going to buy into that other stuff when the raw graphical power is weaker.

If it works and Microsoft ends up selling roughly on par with the PS4 then they could have a situation where they have equal sales numbers but with a much lower software attach rate due to the differences in their customer base profile, which could still impact how appealing the platfom is to publishers. Microsoft may be perfectly happy with that scenario if the customers are still using the Xbox to purchase high margin services and media.

I think its clear that the core gamer market that cares about performance will likely lean PS4, Microsofts best chance for market share parity / superiority may be a US cable market tie-in to drive growth outside that market.
 
AlanzTalon said:
Is there a thread for people who don't give a shit what the native resolution of any game is so long as it plays smooth and is fun? Seems like that person gets shouted at.
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You have every right to feel that way, however, the issue people are taking with the Xbone is that it was billed to be as powerful as the PS4 over and over again, now the wheels are coming off that PR pitch. People have every right to be upset the Xbone is $100 more expensive and definitively a less powerful system. I think people always knew the Xbone was less powerful, but all these games failing to hit 1080p while the PS4 is hitting that I think makes the gap larger than many predicted, and this is launch window. Most I believe still expected both systems to hit 1080p relatively easy, but with the differences being in things like AA, textures, fewer details, and maybe frame rate. So now it comes out the Xbone isn't hitting 1080p on most retail games, and who knows may also be lacking in other areas still.

None of that may affect your enjoyment (plenty enjoyed 480p gaming on the Wii), but I hope you see why others may be less than cheerful about it.
 
SeanR1221 said:
Why was the cod thread closed?
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At this stage, it's a case of waiting for the official resolution. So far, all we've heard is it will look "good".

As for the claim MS leaves these things upto publishers to announce, well, even if that is the case, I doubt both parties would have let this rumour continue when a quick reply would have cut this rumour off at the knees.
 
Im not sure if this sends a bigger message than the cod one.,... I mean this is a exclusive XBOXone title running at 720p? Doesnt really say much if respawn + X1 Engineers who know the system cant get it to run 900-1080p, its gotta be the esram, seriously, 32mb must not be able to cut it with 60fps. Have seen this to death over the last few months on the Frame buffer size in some cases needing to be 53mb? For 1080p60fps with 2AA?

edit: Fixed exclusive mistake.
 
I asked EA on a comment and all they said was they "don't comment on rumor or speculation."

Not sure how relevant that is, but funny thing is when it's a false rumor they do shoot it down. Not saying this is 100 percent true, but hearing that spiel might mean something's more here, no?
 
I'm usually on board with Garnett, but that comment is fucking ridiculous. Has the guy touched a PC game in the last 5 years? If he has, he'd know the difference is not something to be brushed off.
 
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