I don't see anything wrong with 720p to be honest (of course 1080p does look spectacular on a good HDTV). What really jars with me is how MS tried to disparage the PS4 as just a PS3 version 2 (or PS3.5) while talking up the X1 as true next gen. It then rankles when by all accounts the X1 can barely beat X360 resolutions.
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Rumor: Titanfall also 720p?
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GarnettLee @GarnettLee
Haha Knew this was a fiery subject. Have fun Internet. Rage at things you won't buy, tell those who do how dumb they are. It'll all be okay
12:03 PM - 23 Oct 2013
Okay, now you're just trolling Garnett.
Edit: I can't figure out how to embed a Twitter post here.
Haha Knew this was a fiery subject. Have fun Internet. Rage at things you won't buy, tell those who do how dumb they are. It'll all be okay
12:03 PM - 23 Oct 2013
Okay, now you're just trolling Garnett.
Edit: I can't figure out how to embed a Twitter post here.
If people really cared, they would all build $2000 gaming rigs.
When i see these console war threads like the closed COD one for example, i really wonder what PC fanboys must be thinking when they read some of the stuff on here, they must be pissing themselves.
soul creator
Member
just for shits and giggles, last night I went through a few of my recent PC games on my Alienware X51 connected to my 55" 1080p TV, and tried playing them at 720p vs. 1080p.
Apparently I'm one of those blind casuals, because I honestly couldn't really notice any drastic image quality changes, except for the HUD elements being a different size. Oh, and my framerate being almost twice as better at 720p, so it was easily worth the tradeoff.
I guess developers for the most part are banking on people like me? Don't hurt me GAF, pls
Apparently I'm one of those blind casuals, because I honestly couldn't really notice any drastic image quality changes, except for the HUD elements being a different size. Oh, and my framerate being almost twice as better at 720p, so it was easily worth the tradeoff.
I guess developers for the most part are banking on people like me? Don't hurt me GAF, pls
How far away do you sit from your TV?
Mass Effect
Member
So... to those saying 720p doesn't bother you, I have questions:
So if it were lower than 720p (say 600p), would that bother you?
Does that mean you were fine with the 480p resolution of the Wii?
Would you be fine with 720p for the rest of your gaming career?
Please note that this isn't a trap. I'm not baiting anyone into anything, just curious.
So if it were lower than 720p (say 600p), would that bother you?
Does that mean you were fine with the 480p resolution of the Wii?
Would you be fine with 720p for the rest of your gaming career?
Please note that this isn't a trap. I'm not baiting anyone into anything, just curious.
Has Bish resurfaced from his Bunker or is he still weathering the storm with his loved ones and a lifetime supply of canned baked beans?
It's pretty amazing that we got this far without leaks, to be honest. One month before launch! MS nearly made it through the gates. I almost pity them.
That said, it's quite a sad thing, that. Titanfall being 720p is the least of their troubles, methinks. Sucks for sure, but they stated FPS>graphics and that's what you get when you stick to that. I tip my hat to those guys, even if I wonder what in the world they did to the ancient source engine to make it so demanding. Ghost looks like ass, but that's kinda-sorta survivable since it could be expected, being CoD and a crossgen game, and their target demographic does not care in the least (I'm half expecting the PS4 version won't hit 1080p either).
Top that off with the rumours that one month before launch the OS/dashboard still acts up and occasionally crashes - while matchmaking is wonky. Biggest worry, right there.
MS has a fun time ahead of them.
It's pretty amazing that we got this far without leaks, to be honest. One month before launch! MS nearly made it through the gates. I almost pity them.
That said, it's quite a sad thing, that. Titanfall being 720p is the least of their troubles, methinks. Sucks for sure, but they stated FPS>graphics and that's what you get when you stick to that. I tip my hat to those guys, even if I wonder what in the world they did to the ancient source engine to make it so demanding. Ghost looks like ass, but that's kinda-sorta survivable since it could be expected, being CoD and a crossgen game, and their target demographic does not care in the least (I'm half expecting the PS4 version won't hit 1080p either).
Top that off with the rumours that one month before launch the OS/dashboard still acts up and occasionally crashes - while matchmaking is wonky. Biggest worry, right there.
MS has a fun time ahead of them.
Why do people still take CBOAT as FACT?
-Said X1 had no indie program, wouldnt be seen till after launch.
Wrong.
-Said indies would only have access to 3GB of system memory
Wrong. Indies have access to everything including cloud computer and dedicated servers
-Claimed X1 had been down clocked
Wrong
-Claimed Mirrors Edge 2 would be as MS conference and was Kinect Exclusive
Wrong
-Prince of Persia at MS conference
Wrong
-60 minute limit to family sharing (when it existed)
Wrong
-Xbox Live wouldnt Support Free to Play
Wrong
-Sony was launching in October
Wrong
-PSN would remain Free
Wrong
-Said Indies would have to publish games through "Windows store ghetto"
Wrong
EDIT: Reiterating this for people who cant read
"Im not saying hes never right or not a good source at all, im simply asking why its taken as a FACT not a possible rumor.
It seems as though if he came here and said "the sky is falling" neogaf members would be taking cover under their desks instead of looking outside."
Relax gaf, im just saying that he is sometimes wrong, and it isnt gospel.
-Said X1 had no indie program, wouldnt be seen till after launch.
Wrong.
-Said indies would only have access to 3GB of system memory
Wrong. Indies have access to everything including cloud computer and dedicated servers
-Claimed X1 had been down clocked
Wrong
-Claimed Mirrors Edge 2 would be as MS conference and was Kinect Exclusive
Wrong
-Prince of Persia at MS conference
Wrong
-60 minute limit to family sharing (when it existed)
Wrong
-Xbox Live wouldnt Support Free to Play
Wrong
-Sony was launching in October
Wrong
-PSN would remain Free
Wrong
-Said Indies would have to publish games through "Windows store ghetto"
Wrong
EDIT: Reiterating this for people who cant read
"Im not saying hes never right or not a good source at all, im simply asking why its taken as a FACT not a possible rumor.
It seems as though if he came here and said "the sky is falling" neogaf members would be taking cover under their desks instead of looking outside."
Relax gaf, im just saying that he is sometimes wrong, and it isnt gospel.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
Garnett should no better than to haphazardly involve himself in issues like this. You can't continue to do this over and over again after admitting you should have thought before speaking and entering the fray.
MarauderShields
Member
What are the details to this? 6000 posts in the other thread and this was barely mentioned and that is what would scare me.
Portugeezer
Member
He's backing down, he just doesn't have a better rebuttal.
That it hasn't been debunked by this point in the day is almost confirmation in the PR world. Either that, or IW/Activision PR is sitting on their thumbs.
There's been too much attention to this issue for no one to notice, and not put out a strong rebuttal if not true. But I suppose it's possible.
Carefull, Rooney has special powers.
Go on to youtube select a good vid, try 720p, try 1080p, surely you see a difference? and its more prominent likely on consoles given the fact there's going to be much more effects, particles, explosions etc that will look alot sharper on the higher resolution.
Phat Michael
Banned
Did he really claim all these things and we're they proven wrong? I didn't see half of these. His threads tend to blow up pretty fast though, esp the anti xbox ones.
geordiemp
Member
looking for a long membership on GAF are you ?
but xbox one didn't have an indie program until they announced it at gamescom and it won't be ready until after launch..
Lupin the Third
Member
Speaking of wrong, IIRC:
He never claimed any X1 downclocking, but he didn't rule it out. I don't remember the 3GB Indie limit ever being properly debunked, no one can really disprove the 60 minute limit on DRM XB1, and when did he say there'd be no F2P?.
Also, see btkadams' reply.
rakkadakka
Member
1080p or else the game is no fun.
Nope half of the things on that list were never said by him. Notably the downclock, free PSN, and Kinect Mirror's Edge 2 stick out
I havent got the facts infront of me but he is a MS insider, not a sony one, he has been correct on easily 60-70% of his predictions, some of them massive. Your cherry picking all the negatives? .. Im sure someone that has the information on hand will post his resume... The mods would have kicked him out long ago if he wasnt sufficiently reliable, thats your safety net.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
Yesterday and today has been crazy on here.
On a side note, I always assumed TitanFall was 720p.
On a side note, I always assumed TitanFall was 720p.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
You're gaining a huge framerate boost in that comparison.
With PS4, there's no tradeoff vs. XB1.
He's just starting fires and then pretending to be above the chaos. He was unbearable when he started podcasting, he's still unbearable today.
I'd imagine it really just comes down to when you can actually notice the difference based on the size of your display and how far you sit from it. You can certainly tell a Wii game isn't running at an HD resolution when displayed on a big screen. For me at least, I couldn't with the 720-1080 difference. Other people probably can.
Pseudo judo
Member
The game either looks good and plays good or it doesn't. Resolution is certainly a factor but it's not the main factor. Simple really.
geordiemp
Member
Read your prevuous posts "Being able to watch TV and use smartglass to find a game during commercial or something is one of my most wanted features."
Wow, smart stuff. Bet you like Kinect as well
SneakyStephan
Banned
Seems like both of you should stick to the 360 since you don't care about image quality or graphics.
It has titanfall too you have no reason to buy an xbone
exactly
this is the painful point those people don't seem to want to aknowledge
Ding ding ding!
Im not saying hes never right or not a good source at all, im simply asking why its taken as a FACT not a possible rumor.
It seems as though if he came here and said "the sky is falling" neogaf members would be taking cover under their desks instead of looking outside.
Alcoholikaust
Member
have you seen the resolution?
Good job blatantly ignoring all the stuff he has been right about.
something fishy
Member
so titanfall is confirmed as 720p with months left to go? There is confirmed no chance of it changing?
have we gone from speculation to just assuming the worst now?
Portugeezer
Member
Indeed. Extremely annoying.
"Wrong" or "shit changed and/or removed after the leaks and backlash"? Two very different things. I have a friend working a 1st party studio and even he was fed the wrong release date for PS4, for example. He also said October.
Shit can change. I am banking on the fact that he knows so much and his track record speaks for itself that things DO change. Let's not forget MS is reactionary, at this point.
Yeah. I do. Some people like things that you don't like.
I still really like the ps4. I still have it preordered. Im still crazy excited about what their 1st party games are gonna be. But i still also really like snap and kinect (IF they both work as smoothly as advertised....big if considering kinect 1.0)
Let's dismiss the things where he was (supposedly) wrong and ignore the rest of TRUTHFACTS
Ruh roh
Add to the the awful compression some cable providers give out and it adds to a worse off experience than Youtube at 1080p.
geordiemp
Member
Ignore him, he likes smart glass, snapping and probably Kinect and now he is attacking Cboat.
You would think a good troll would not be so obvious ?
ambar_hitman
Member
Wow that guy had to bring TV into debate. Xbone and TV cant stay separate.
something fishy
Member
definitely having a good time trashing his companies launch.
I must admit I personally can't comprehend why you'd do it.
disagree or not with the direction, if he helps bring down the division then his job goes and that of all his colleagues.
why would you want that? what the hell must you think of your colleagues to want to?
it's all really odd to me.
of course, it's not an employee, just a dev close to it who dislikes them and wants to see it all exposed then that's not the same.
I must admit I personally can't comprehend why you'd do it.
disagree or not with the direction, if he helps bring down the division then his job goes and that of all his colleagues.
why would you want that? what the hell must you think of your colleagues to want to?
it's all really odd to me.
of course, it's not an employee, just a dev close to it who dislikes them and wants to see it all exposed then that's not the same.
The news dropped before Cboat got involved (if you discount that CBOAT called the 720p/900p x1 normality for most X1 future titles, 2 weeks ago)
It was Mort from kutaku teased the issue that would "break GAF" .,.. Prolite stated xbox not only has 720p issues but the OS crashes to the desktop during mulitplayer games aswell... Bruceleeroy also stated the 720'p, Thuway came out, balls on the table stating it first (also a V reliable source) - once everyone confirmed their sources, it all pulled together and everyone came out - So its not just from 1 dude
It's silly that some of you are defending 720p like it doesn't matter. It may not matter to you. Hell, it doesn't really matter that much to me.
But if I see two consoles, console #1 at $500 and console #2 at $400, one which is clearly less powerful and has a tack-on peripheral that I don't want and the other that is clearly more powerful asapparent from the specs alone and the fact that console #1 is behind the times as far as resolution goes, guess what I'm going to buy? I'll vote with my wallet, thank you very much.
It may not be a "big issuse" or even a "big deal" to you. But to me, it says something about the quality of the console itself. It raises the question "What am I paying $500 for?"
But if I see two consoles, console #1 at $500 and console #2 at $400, one which is clearly less powerful and has a tack-on peripheral that I don't want and the other that is clearly more powerful asapparent from the specs alone and the fact that console #1 is behind the times as far as resolution goes, guess what I'm going to buy? I'll vote with my wallet, thank you very much.
It may not be a "big issuse" or even a "big deal" to you. But to me, it says something about the quality of the console itself. It raises the question "What am I paying $500 for?"
hydragonwarrior
Member
Haha, new buzzword: RESOLUTIONGATE
His Weekend Confirmed show didn't even broach the subject of DRM in E3 week, when it was the only story in town, then had to eat humble pie the week after when the shit hit the fan.
It's a strange position to take, raging against gamers for making a point of these revelations, when it's the cheaper system delivering on the 1080p hope.
I could understand his position if the PS4 was twice the price of the Xbox One, that would be a reasonable tech/cost compromise.