PS4 can't play MP3, Music Unlimited needed for background music [Up:Yoshida responds]

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I've never listened music on the PS3, other than to try out the visualizer, but it's still an inexcusable restriction. I wonder what's their plan regarding the PS4 game soundtracks. Will they still be available on the store, like on the PS3?
 
Oublieux said:
Mountain out of a molehill..?

I can't say that I ever used my PS3 for music. As a casual audiophile, the MP3 format is not something that resonates with me; even with a DAC/Amp connected to my PS3 through optical, it's not my primary source for listening to music.

The lack of DLNA is a total downer though, BUT the PS3 didn't come with DLNA either until further down its lifespan, so I wouldn't be immediately worried.

I can see why these are the major sore points though, but I'm optimistic that they'll be added later down the line.
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Whats a casual audiophile
Sounds oxymoronic
 
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
X1 will have DLNA by virtue of Windows 8 apps.

Even if you can't play mp3 in the background, its going to be there.

No need for the Major to confirm anything.
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Doesn't that depend on how MS manages what apps they allow onto the Xbox App Store? It isn't going to be open like say the android market or something (and even thats not totally open).
 
HovaHovito said:
Whats a casual audiophile
Sounds oxymoronic
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Someone whose not spending 100k on speakers or the like I imagine.

I'd probably consider myself that too (though I'd expand it to video as well). I prefer the best media sources I can afford even if I can't afford a top end listening/watching environment.
 
Freeman said:
Cut features and decrease value of your most important product so you can forcibly push people to a service that if was any good wouldn't need you forcing people into it?

So I guess Apple should stop removing mp3 support from their products and push for iTunes radio or whatever and windows should do the same so it can force us to use some Zune streaming service... It doesn't work like that, all your doing is pissing people of an morally justifying hacking.

It baffles me they thought this kind of stunt would go unnoticed, shows how dumb they think we are.
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But MP3/DLNA support is not a very notable feature of the PS3/PS4. That's nowhere near Apple removing MP3 support.
 
Perhaps someone with custom firmware can chime in, but was it not the case that media servers were used for piracy on the PS3?

By that I mean as a way of transferring game images onto the system?

Possibly related?
 
i dont get the reactions by some here.

i.e:
  • i dont use it, why would anybody do so?
  • just use a service then
  • hope for spotify (which isn't really something else)

Why would i wan't to pay a monthly fee to a service provider to listen to songs i already own? Since the PS4 might be in the centre of home entertainment, let us use it as a media hub. the connections are build in and connected to the rest of the system. or basically follow this general logic: "the follow up system should, feature wise, be better (have more features), equally good (loose a minor feature get something else to replace it i.e. FLAC für ATRAC °-°) or at least as good as the predecessor (keep it as good as the PS3).

streaming stuff is questionable on its own, since not all services will be available worldwide (yeah there are countries outside of the USA, so you don't have the only Georgia, Athens and Europe is not an Island near Greenland). some don't have the speed to support it, or the connection quality or well the data allowance.

choice is a beautiful thing. not able to choose sucks. you didn't use DLNA and mp3 playback, video, vidzone etc...no problem, don't do it when you get a ps4. oh you used them all? well bad for you, try something else.
 
Just a question, what would people think if Sony made a 1 year sub of Music Unlimited cost $12 just like they did last year for PS+ users? Would this be far more agreeable for you?
 
vivftp said:
Just a question, what would people think if Sony made a 1 year sub of Music Unlimited cost $12 just like they did last year for PS+ users? Would this be far more agreeable for you?
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I think thats great for somebody who wants to use that service.

As somebody who wants to play their own media, no, not really any more agreeable, no.
 
Sounds like Sony took the "all about the games first and foremost" approach to its logical conclusion, and structured their software development plans accordingly (at least, for launch). I'm sure this'll be patched in at some point though, surely they won't go the entire lifespan of the console regressing from their previous system in this department?
 
BibiMaghoo said:
Perhaps someone with custom firmware can chime in, but was it not the case that media servers were used for piracy on the PS3?

By that I mean as a way of transferring game images onto the system?

Possibly related?
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i don't think its possible to use dlna protocol for piracy. it only caches the data thats being played and a buffer (as far as i understand). So i don't think that is the reason why. It could be they just didn't have time to implement it, seeing as to how there are so many features in the day one patch.
 
vivftp said:
Just a question, what would people think if Sony made a 1 year sub of Music Unlimited cost $12 just like they did last year for PS+ users? Would this be far more agreeable for you?
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I wouldn't care if it was free. Audio quality and selection make it not interesting at all.
 
vivftp said:
Just a question, what would people think if Sony made a 1 year sub of Music Unlimited cost $12 just like they did last year for PS+ users? Would this be far more agreeable for you?
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No. Still a paywall for stuff I already own, and most of the music I listen to isn't on music unlimited anyway.
 
Guess someone over there crunched the numbers and figured they'll make more money this way than from selling digital clothes and furniture to online avatars.
 
You guys have to keep in mind that this is how Sony thinks it best leverages itself. SCE will have to help SME even though SME is hot garbage. This reeks of forced corporate synergy. Kaz probably has it on a slide somewhere about cross selling.

SCE engineers will blow them off later and add it. I'd bet money.
 
dvize said:
i don't think its possible to use dlna protocol for piracy. it only caches the data thats being played and a buffer (as far as i understand). So i don't think that is the reason why. It could be they just didn't have time to implement it, seeing as to how there are so many features in the day one patch.
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Only in the sense that you can play pirated content. But then that was also true of the local media player in the PS3.
 
vivftp said:
Just a question, what would people think if Sony made a 1 year sub of Music Unlimited cost $12 just like they did last year for PS+ users? Would this be far more agreeable for you?
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Seriously? No, not at all. Trading basic functionality for a paid service, no matter the price, shouldn't be acceptable.
 
So far, Sony has been very good about responding to consumer desires about the PS4 -- as long as people keep bringing it, I bet it will be patched in.
 
torontoml said:
What's this, missed it?
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Japanmanx3 said:
On mobile...what was said?
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Source mentioned DLNA coming post launch.

To further be obvious, the PS4 will have many improvements and additions to features after launch as well.

The important part are the games and having a function OS and network. Of course there will be apps and stuff but this stuff takes precedence over some other things.
 
Not an issue for me, I mix my sound and music with my amp. I'd rather have the memory used for games. I know I'm in the minority, if it was on PS3 it should be on PS4.
 
Y2Kev said:
You guys have to keep in mind that this is how Sony thinks it best leverages itself. SCE will have to help SME even though SME is hot garbage. This reeks of forced corporate synergy. Kaz probably has it on a slide somewhere about cross selling.
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So does Sony get a cut of Netflix/Hulu/Redbox/Amazon media app use on PS3/PS4?

Then I could understand the elimination of local streaming.
 
Y2Kev said:
You guys have to keep in mind that this is how Sony thinks it best leverages itself. SCE will have to help SME even though SME is hot garbage. This reeks of forced corporate synergy. Kaz probably has it on a slide somewhere about cross selling.

SCE engineers will blow them off later and add it. I'd bet money.
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Yea this is such a corporate move. Like some of the nonsense you see with MS's decisions. My only use is really for custom soundtrack support. I hope to see it come back in a glorious FW update. What was the famous FW update for PS3 with the huge mega thread? 2.4?
 
vivftp said:
Just a question, what would people think if Sony made a 1 year sub of Music Unlimited cost $12 just like they did last year for PS+ users? Would this be far more agreeable for you?
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I would re-sub as I enjoy music unlimited right now.

But still, I would like options, as I have hundreds of songs already bought. Some of which are not included in the music unlimited service.
 
Y2Kev said:
You guys have to keep in mind that this is how Sony thinks it best leverages itself. SCE will have to help SME even though SME is hot garbage. This reeks of forced corporate synergy. Kaz probably has it on a slide somewhere about cross selling.

SCE engineers will blow them off later and add it. I'd bet money.
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Briarios said:
So far, Sony has been very good about responding to consumer desires about the PS4 -- as long as people keep bringing it, I bet it will be patched in.
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Yeah that's what I'm guessing too. Launch just has everyone going crazy, acting like it will never come.
 
Wait.. Has Sony confirmed that there will be a Netflix app allowed on the PS4?

We all just expected there to be MP3 support and look what happened there?
They obviously cut audio CD and MP3 support to sell MUSIC UNLIMITED.

Of course they also want to sell their VIDEO UNLIMITED service as well.. Better not assume anything from here on out.

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Fight the power.. Protest our rights to listen to free music on the PS4!
 
Dreamgazer said:
No confirmations so far.
Major Nelson said he'll track down the answer, but that's hours ago.

When asked about custom soundtrack, Greenberg said you can snap Xbox Music.
When asked about "can you stream your synced collection without an Xbox Music pass though?" Greenberg said "I believe so."

We know Xbox One won't be a Windows Media Center Extender, but that doesn't mean no DLNA.

Basically, we don't know.
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Major Nelson's on a plane to London for the BF4 event.
 
kingocfs said:
Seriously? No, not at all. Trading basic functionality for a paid service, no matter the price, shouldn't be acceptable.
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I guess I can see both sides. If you already have a music collection this isn't all that good. You can still play your music by loading it through MU, but it's an additional paywall.

If you have no music collection then this could be great as it gives you access to a sizable music library.

Either way, they need to do something about that normal price. I got it for $12 last year and it's fine, but I would not pay full price. In the end this doesn't affect me any as I don't listen to alternate music or do any DLNA stuff on my console. Ah well, wait and see what they do I suppose.
 
Don't want this to come across as condescending, but is playing your own soundtrack through your console while playing a game really such a big deal? I only ask because 1. I'm a sucker for Video game OSTs, so I couldn't even begin to think of doing that and 2. What's stopping anyone from just playing music through their phone, mp3 player, laptop, or any other device? Convenience? Well I guess the joke's on me.

This just seems like such a trivial matter I'm honestly surprised at such a negative response.
 
devotedgmr17 said:
Don't want this to come across as condescending, but is playing your own soundtrack through your console while playing a game really such a big deal? I only ask because 1. I'm a sucker for Video game OSTs, so I couldn't even begin to think of doing that and 2. What's stopping anyone from just playing music through their phone, mp3 player, laptop, or any other device? Convenience? Well I guess the joke's on me.

This just seems like such a trivial matter I'm honestly surprised at such a negative response.
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yeah, who likes features in their products anyway?!
 
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